[matt1234]

Within 2 years the emperor Valens himself was killed by a Goth army at the Battle of Adrianople. Exactly 100 years after asylum, the western Roman empire fell to the first barbarian "King," marking the end of that empire.

[3Fingas]

Yup. It will be called aztlan. Texas aint going down easy though. No, not like California at all.

[Argus]

But Byzantium endured for another thousand years.

We need to figure out where our Constantinople is.

[jeffc]

Liberals don’t believe in history, so this will mean nothing to them. They make up their own “histories” for political purposes so they figure everyone else does (and did), too.

[arthurus]

The "Barbarians" did not destroy Rome. They became Romans and extended Roman culture and maintained it until the Mohammedans cut off Europe from trade with the East, primarily papyrus which among other effects rapidly deliterated a generally literate civilization. The Roman Empire fell, or rather evanesced. Roman civilization continued for more than another century.

Mohammed & Charlemagne Revisited: The History of a Controversy by Scott, Emmet (Dec 16, 2011)