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07-27-2013 | self

Posted on 07/27/2013 1:34:53 PM PDT by ottbmare

We have never had cable TV, and it was the greatest relief to me when analog television broadcasting stopped so that my kids couldn't watch TV at our house. Nobody was going to study at all, much less do Algebra II and graduate from high school, if the temptation of stupid entertainment was available, so I always refused to pay for cable.

There were times I did miss television, though. When other Freepers would talk about news or sports events, when there was an election or an historic occasion, it would have been good to see for myself what they were enjoying. And there were, it seemed, movies and shows I would have liked to see.

Now both of my kids are grown and gone, and last week Verizon installed FiOS fiberoptic cable in my neighborhood. When they asked me if I wanted to sign up, I arranged for the lowest-priced package.

But 99% of what's available on the air appears to be about depraved people like the Kardashians, whoever they may be. Suddenly all those great movies have slipped my mind. May I have some recommendations from Freepers about what they find of value to watch?

My tastes run toward pretty sedate, cultural things, historical A&E productions or BBC things, but I do like movies like Master & Commander, Die Hard, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, etc.

Thanks for your input. There's got to be more to this whole television thing than just Fox News and Glenn Beck, right?


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1 posted on 07/27/2013 1:34:53 PM PDT by ottbmare
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To: ottbmare

Internet— Netflix. Hulu....


2 posted on 07/27/2013 1:38:21 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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Cable, including FiOS and AT&T’s Uverse are for news and sports. For movies and anything else with a shelf live of more than 20 minutes, you should be looking at Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Apple iTunes, and similar offerings.

OTT devices (Over the Top) run from $35 to just over $100 and most will allow you to stream any of those services listed above and more.


3 posted on 07/27/2013 1:38:36 PM PDT by MS from the OC (Obama taking credit for killing OBL is like Nixon taking credit for landing on the moon, John Bolton)
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We get “Sky Angel”, it does not have much of the regular channels. It has Fox News a few sports channels some old movie channels a few low budget kid channels and a whole bunch of Christian channels. Its pretty cheap. For series we miss (like Dr Who, Stargate etc) we by dvd sets.


4 posted on 07/27/2013 1:38:57 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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We mostly watch Japanese animation, and the military channel. History channel has to be carefully watched, it tends to get stuff from the Howard Zinn(crypto-communist) end of the spectrum.

Wide band internet access is pretty nice though.


5 posted on 07/27/2013 1:40:25 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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You can get a lot on youtube. You will find that TV has gotten more annoying and vacuous since you last saw it. I suggest you get a iBook or Kindle and read. Or, you could actually write your own books. (Here are four of mine. http://amzn.to/15yxkiy)


6 posted on 07/27/2013 1:40:50 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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I haven’t watched TV in ages, the Internet is my TV.


7 posted on 07/27/2013 1:42:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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The ONLY reason we have cable is my wife likes to watch sports on TV (I couldn’t care less about sports). I get my content from Amazon Prime, Blockbuster, Hulu, and Apple iTunes/Apple TV. I’d love to dump our cable TV, but Mrs. POF says “over my dead body.” Besides, we get our phone and Internet from Comcast now, too, and get a great package price.

Frankly, it sounds like you really don’t need cable; I’d consider the sources of content such as I suggested above and maybe NetFlix or Roku. Also check out the new Google $35 ChromeCast HDMI dongle introduced this week. Better yet, get an Internet-ready TV to access this content.

Quite a few good shows q43 being produced by cable networks and NetFlix, but you can purchase these ala carte from many sources. Or, if you wait long enough, watch them for free (eg, Amazon Prime).


8 posted on 07/27/2013 1:45:12 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Internet only.

Internet

Internet

Internet


9 posted on 07/27/2013 1:45:56 PM PDT by Paisan
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We stream most of what we watch, I’m jealous of your fiber connection. We cut the cable a decade ago,

I thought I missed Fox until I was stuck in the hospital for two weeks.


10 posted on 07/27/2013 1:46:15 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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If you aren’t in an area shadowed by hills and mountains, over the air broadcast television is great. Crystal clear picture and no monthly fee.


11 posted on 07/27/2013 1:49:06 PM PDT by fso301
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yeah yeah, my mom was like that back in the 70s I thought it was stupid then and I think it is stupid now


12 posted on 07/27/2013 1:49:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: donmeaker

The History Channel is why I convinced myself that I needed cable. But the History Channel is now, a total waste of time. Maybe, MAYBE, once a week, they have a vaguely historical offering. Maybe. The rest is worthless...

There IS a Military History Channel, and, History Channel International, but even these are merely dumping grounds for shows that USED to be on the History Channel.

Smithsonian Channel ain’t too bad though...


13 posted on 07/27/2013 1:50:36 PM PDT by Paisan
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The History Channel is why I convinced myself that I needed cable.

I liked it better when it was still "The Hitler Channel."

14 posted on 07/27/2013 1:51:24 PM PDT by dfwgator
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I like the food channel. I’d watch Laura Calder or Giada burn water if it was televised. Also like Adam Richman on the travel channel. The wealth channel is cool with some interesting stuff sometimes. Restaurant takeover shows are sometimes fun. Bar Rescue is an interesting show as well. Also the DIY home shows are sometimes good. Love Mountain Men on History channel. Burn Notice is coming to an end, but for awhile, it was very cool, very Miami, and very good “blow stuff up” entertainment. There’s a lot out there. Keep perusing!


15 posted on 07/27/2013 1:52:22 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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Depends on how much you want to invest.

I have a ROKU box (Abt $70) (requires a router so it can work off the modem for the Internet) to connect to the TV. With ROKU, I also have Netflix (subscription $9/mo). Hulu and Amazon Prime are other subscription services that operate through ROKU.

With ROKU, you can also add the PLEX channel. The PLEX software is available free. PLEX can connect via your computer (it has to be on) to the Internet to access videos on many TV networks and various video websites. PLEX then plays them through ROKU on your TV.

Netflix/Hulu/Amazon have many movies and TV series. Hulu adds short commercials throughout. Netflix and Amazon are commercial free.


16 posted on 07/27/2013 1:52:31 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Paisan

I do kind of still like the Military History Channel


17 posted on 07/27/2013 1:53:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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I watch Korean programs now online with subtitles. Less filth and less leftist drivel.

Viki and DramaFever are the two sites I use most.

Stay away from the perverted Japanese cartoons.


18 posted on 07/27/2013 1:54:34 PM PDT by GeronL
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I get TV Polonia on the Internet. They have some great Polish series and movies, usually with English Subtitles.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 1:55:40 PM PDT by dfwgator
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If not for my wife, I'd have cut the cord (with cable TV) years ago.

I have a Roku box and use my internet service to get content through it. My only expense is a Netflix streaming account which is about $10 a month (there is also a lot of free content outside Netflix).

The only thing I want want to see on cable TV but can't get through Roku is NFL football but that wouldn't stop me from canceling cable if I could - I'd just see the game in a bar or over a friend's house if I had to.

20 posted on 07/27/2013 1:59:12 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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One time FiOS gave me the channels from India free for a couple of weeks and then cut it off. Darn them, I was actually starting to like a few of the shows!


21 posted on 07/27/2013 1:59:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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I actually do get into the Novelas on Univision. I’d rather watch those than the dreck on the regular English channels.


22 posted on 07/27/2013 2:00:35 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

are there subtitles?


23 posted on 07/27/2013 2:05:24 PM PDT by GeronL
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You have an Internet connection. Get an Apple TV for $99. Sign up for Netflix ($8/mo, no ads) and/or Hulu (around $9/mo, has commercials). If this don’t have what you want, iTunes rents just about everything ($2-7/rental). Works for me.


24 posted on 07/27/2013 2:05:40 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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Get a Roku box and watch your choice off the internet at a much lower cost


25 posted on 07/27/2013 2:05:52 PM PDT by Figment
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I had my satellite service disconnected a couple of years ago in utter disgust at the sleazy, mindless drivel that comprised it’s entire offering. I have been thankful that I did so. My phone provides all the current news headlines I need. I can scan them and delve deeper if I so choose.

I have a dvd mail order service that delivers all the bbc series, dramas and documentaries I could want. I haven’t had my peace of mind disturbed by seeing nutcases glorified, bad behavior touted as “individualism” or abberant philosophy presented as fact for a long time. I have also not missed the twenty-four-seven elevation dysfunction advertisements.

I get all the political discussion I wish to hear on talk radio without being distracted by big hair, cleavage, bad toupes or neon white phony smiles.

Be warned, however. The longer you remain out of the virtual lunacy of the mainstream media the more sane you will become. This will eventually make you incomprehensible to fully half of humanity and likewise, they will be incomprehensible to you for the most part. So has been my experience. Proceed with caution friend.


26 posted on 07/27/2013 2:14:59 PM PDT by Aleya2Fairlie
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I have a Logitech Revue and it only costs I think less than $9 month. I get Netflix, and of course google tv. Also available on the net is TopDocumentaryFilms.com which has many of the educational/History/Science/Bio/ etc TV and films... for free. Just need an internet connection and you are good to go-- and can do it cheap.
Between those there are too many to watch most evenings. I consider it a real deal.
NoW even more of a deal is I pay NOTHING -0- for telephone. Local and long distance. I have a obi 100 and I paid the one time fee for that of $39.00. Look up obi100 on amazon and check all the great reviews, but you can also check on NewEgg and see great reviews also.
The computer does NOt need to be on, just you modem and/or router. So for the cost of the internet $39 through mindspring I can get hi speed internet
My local and long distance is FREE and crystal clear I might say.. The unit that does that is about the size of a cigarette pack which is just amazing...
And my television is $9.00 a month.

So for less than $50/month I have phone, internet, and television.
Yes I have cut the cords and love not paying the big bills anymore.
More channels than I can watch, crystal clear phone, and Hi speed internet.
Life is pretty good, now if I can get another part time job I will have a little money to spend and pay FR for the great service they provide. Oh, and SSD is far less than you would think! Take a break and see lots of TV.
27 posted on 07/27/2013 2:26:26 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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We evicted broadcast television 5 years ago and now only order movies from netflix...we’ll never go back. We were recently selected as a “Nielson Family”. I am anxious to be included in their stats.


28 posted on 07/27/2013 2:54:19 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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you should be looking at Hulu, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Apple iTunes, and similar offerings.

dittoes.

29 posted on 07/27/2013 2:54:30 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (o : Tagline Test ; -)
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Oh and I watch History Channel, A&E, Discovery, various BBC, Several science channels, and various other shopping, food, etc on TopDocumentaryFilms.com for free.
The computer does not need to be on.
Most of the Fox news channels I see thru my Logitech revue got free. I can also watch the Amazon on demand free and the paid ones if I want them the year they are new.
Sports I can go to our local bistro and get a good meal or catch many on my HiDef and otair channels.
The Revue also has all the Google TV free also except the current Amazon On Demand movies and shows. You can still find Revue refurbs for about $35-39. What a brilliant device that is and there is so much more I can't go into right now. Logitch blew the marketing on that and it was out about 3 or 4 years ago but they discontinued it.. what a shame...what a waste... but they still support it!
I can not say enough about the ObiHai telephone though.. after the initial $39. is has been free and clear... as good as my Fios was. So my on going expense is the Netflix and the Internet.
30 posted on 07/27/2013 2:58:36 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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A&E isn’t what it used to be.

For movies, TCM is in a class by itself. Everything else is going to be chopped up by ads. But if you have a package with a DVR, you tape the movies and then fast forward through the ads.


31 posted on 07/27/2013 3:00:39 PM PDT by PAR35
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I would avoid electronic entertainment altogether. If you must have passive amusement, rent movies at RedBox or your local library.

There is no "safe" place in the (m)ass media world. With even Disney catering to fags and perverts, there's nothing left that's clean and constructive. You can still find a nugget here and there, but it's not worth skin-diving in the cesspool to get it.

32 posted on 07/27/2013 3:22:19 PM PDT by IronJack (=)
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two things - get a “Leaf” TV antenna, you will be surprised by the HUGE amount of broadcast TV. In Dallas we get more than 25 English language channels, many are “old” movies and TV. Over the air Leaf also gives us two groups of Christian broadcasting stations with 7-10 channels - plus we get Netflix cd and streaming. Way cheaper than cable.


33 posted on 07/27/2013 3:32:28 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justice)
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To: ottbmare; Gen.Blather
+1 for YouTube .. lots and lots and LOTS of stuff for free, sans commercials, and streamable to your TV with a relatively cheap WiFi BluRay player.
34 posted on 07/27/2013 3:56:00 PM PDT by tomkat
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If you're adventurous and mildly 'techie', there's (shhhh)  Usenet
35 posted on 07/27/2013 4:01:38 PM PDT by tomkat
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I would avoid electronic entertainment altogether.

This "conservative sharia" attitude is an over-reaction. There is a huge amount of excellent electronic entertainment available and it's not hard to find. The big screen HD TV is the greatest human advance since double-entry accounting!

36 posted on 07/27/2013 4:04:05 PM PDT by omniscient
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Go to http://tvfool.com/ to check on digital broadcast available in your specific location, as well as antenna recommendations. Broadcast has exploded, I can pick up 23 channels myself, with a variety of programming, from local network affiliates to music to a station with nothing but classic sitcoms.

That should cover a fair amount of your viewing wants and needs. Somebody recommended the Mohu Leaf antenna, I second that but go for the Leaf Ultimate, $79.95 or thereabouts, you can order it from their site if you want, or Sam’s Club carries it, probably other retailers. Indoor, wall or window mount, small, thin and unobtrusive.

For the rest, use your internet connection. A variety of decent, reputable companies provide means of streaming downloads to your TV. Roku, AppleTV, others.

You’ll cut your expense from around $50.00 a month for basic cable to $8.00 a month for online netflix, Hulu or other services. You can rent just about anything and download it online from iTunes also, $2.00 to $7.00 per each movie.

You’ll be watching only what you want. Takes some getting accustomed to not scheduling your viewing around when it’s on, but it’s better, really. Watch it when you want to watch.


37 posted on 07/27/2013 4:08:02 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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get utorrent, a multi-terrabyte NAS (I like QNAP products so far), find a media player (western digitals WDTV works nice and is cheap)... then head to eztv.it

the site lists only first runs and has a list of prior episodes by series name (click the ‘Show List’ link at the top)

make sure to set up your utorrent to move completed dnloads to the NAS, thereby making it available to anyone on your home net. also make sure your utorrent stops seeding shortly after completion

if you’re concerned, set that machine to work through a Tor proxy and you’ll be set (tho no one really cares about tv shows)

and, of course, secure your home net properly


38 posted on 07/27/2013 4:26:35 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: ottbmare

DISH = Blaze TV


39 posted on 07/27/2013 4:31:25 PM PDT by Prole
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Agree.

Too much sordid trash on TV. I have XM Sat radio for FNC broadcasts as well as Patriot Channel, and also check the net for news. Have a digital TV antenna for local broadcasts, and several Blu Ray players and HD TVs for films. Cannot stand to watch movies on cable, as they are overpriced and often oversaturated with ads.

Keep getting spam and trash from DIRECTV ssking me to contract. I might consider the neo-communist bastards if they didn’t iutright refuse to carry Blaze TV.


40 posted on 07/27/2013 4:37:48 PM PDT by Prole
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Cable is 20th Century technology. Don’t bother. As others have said, streaming is the way to go these days. You get the content that you want on YOUR schedule.


41 posted on 07/27/2013 4:38:50 PM PDT by Rio
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Ditto everything TomGuy said, plus: spend a one-time $50 charge on the Roku private channel called PlayOn http://www.playon.tv/

Along with the standard channels that PlayOn comes with, you can also add several private channels/scripts (most are free) and you will have all the programming you will ever need. http://www.playonscripts.com/

Here are the private channels I use most:
1channel (free) tv shows and movies
ProjectFreeTV (free) tv shows and movies
Superusvox (one-time $5) live cable tv
Vipbox (free) live sports

Playon only works in standard definition. You need a Roku player (or other streaming device) to send it to your tv and you need a newer computer and medium-speed internet. I have had it over a year, it’s the best deal out there!


42 posted on 07/27/2013 5:04:20 PM PDT by davandbar
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I have been considering the Roku quite recently, but still have some questions concerning what is available through it; for instance, local channels? And what about certain cable channels, such as FoxNews, USA, Spike and others? I have ATT Broadband, and they will not allow an internet-only connection so I cannot get basic-only telephone service (you MUST have the Advanced Service option) or disconnect the phone service (I have a separate Cellphone service), so other than SatTV or Cable, the internet is pretty much my best option for the few channels I am interested in viewing.

As far as I can determine, the Roku is basically a media-streaming device, which I can put together from a spare older computer without much difficulty, so is it more than that somehow?

43 posted on 07/27/2013 5:28:35 PM PDT by Utilizer (what does not kill you... -can sometimes damage you QUITE severely!)
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I get something like 300 channels and watch about 10 of them.I wish that cable offered pay-per-channel...even if it meant no lowering of my bill.
44 posted on 07/27/2013 6:42:34 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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The problem is that with cable-satellite services we pay monthly fees to channels we absolutely detest like MSNBC and CNN. I wonder where I can find the $$ we pay for what channels.


45 posted on 07/27/2013 6:45:04 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
here is a chart from 2010, I don't know if it accurate


46 posted on 07/27/2013 6:48:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

11 cents for Current and Bridges-TV are just travesties.


47 posted on 07/27/2013 6:50:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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Somewhere you should try to get hold of as many of the three C-Span channels as you can - especially C-Span2, which carries interesting and informative interviews with authors and discussions of their writings every weekend and often during the week - in addition you will have access to primary source - that is, live real-time coverage - of many of the vital stories that otherwise you’ll see no or only highly censored coverage of on other channels. Lately, for instance, we’ve seen gavel-to-gavel coverage of the IRS scandal hearings, including this week’s attempt to destroy the IG by the ‘rats - always engrossing......


48 posted on 07/27/2013 9:14:46 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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Now do any of you have suggestions about what kind of (little) TV to get? I don’t have any money but I anticipate getting a generous gift from my brother any day now, and I was going to buy a new TV with it. But the vast selection at Best Buy and other retailers is so confusing I just walked out of the store. Felt like a Russian immigrant in a US food store for the first time.


49 posted on 07/27/2013 9:24:12 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare)
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Just about any package has a bunch of drivel for each decent station. I do a lot of surfing to try to find a decent event to view and often, even with a couple hundred channels and HBO, can't find anything decent or that hasn't been shown 100 times in the last month.

BTW - if you still have an analog antenna hooked up, and your TV is digital, you can pick up the digital broadcasts anyhow. I still have mine and use if for when satellite is out due to heavy storms and it picks up more channels now than before the change. Or...you can upgrade to a digital antenna and you might find less need for the cable type service.

50 posted on 07/28/2013 4:01:30 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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