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Why the Left Hates ‘The Conjuring’
http://www.teapartytribune.com ^ | july 27, 2013 | By Stephen Z. Nemo (a.k.a., Mr. Curmudgeon):

Posted on 07/27/2013 7:21:17 PM PDT by lowbridge

“I grew up in probably the most haunted house in America,” said author Andrea Perron during a recent interview on the Internet radio program Mystic Moon Café, “However, we didn’t tell anybody that … because forty years ago people didn’t want to hear it. They didn’t want to believe it. They certainly didn’t want to know anybody that was living in circumstances like that. And so we kept it under our hats for more than thirty years after we left the house. We moved in there as a completely normal family … but we left as a paranormal family, because once that door is opened, it cannot be closed again. And if you retain all of your cognitive synapses, and you experience something like that, you never forget it.”

The house in question sits on a 200-acre farm in Harrisville, Road Island, was built in 1776, and is the subject of the hit movie ‘The Conjuring.’ Perron was one of five young girls who moved into that farmhouse with her parents in January of 1971. What followed was nearly a decade of torment at the hands of malevolent forces from an unseen world.

Much of the Hollywood retelling of the Perron family’s ordeal is gleaned from the three-volume chronicle penned by Andrea Perron under the title “House of Darkness House of Light” and the investigative files of Ed and Lorraine Warren, founders of the New England Society for Psychic Research.

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The tale of a young family’s oppression at the hands of supernatural forces has struck a chord with American audiences. The story, however, is sending chills up the spines of some in the media … in ways the filmmakers may not have foreseen.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: conjuring; theconjuring

1 posted on 07/27/2013 7:21:17 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I would love to add a scene to a ghost movie, imagine a room or basement full of baby ghosts and finding out the place used to be an abortuary.


2 posted on 07/27/2013 7:23:59 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: lowbridge

“However, we didn’t tell anybody that … because forty years ago people didn’t want to hear it...”

So I guess the words “Amityville” and “Horror” just mean nothing to this guy?


3 posted on 07/27/2013 7:25:15 PM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: lowbridge

We are all twisted.... but myself and my family can’t wait to see this movie. (teenage kids)


4 posted on 07/27/2013 7:26:13 PM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: autumnraine

Good movie. The director, James Wan is good at what he does. Scares a - plenty


5 posted on 07/27/2013 7:30:14 PM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: lowbridge

“she is said to have murdered a baby in the early 1860s by plunging a needle into the base of the child’s skull.”

also known as Saturday night at Nancy Pelosi’s house..


6 posted on 07/27/2013 7:30:33 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: lowbridge
The house in question sits on a 200-acre farm in Harrisville, Road Island, was built in 1776, and is the subject of the hit movie ‘The Conjuring.’

Haven't seen the movie and already I'm horrified!
7 posted on 07/27/2013 7:30:48 PM PDT by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: lowbridge

Sounds like this movie is filmed like ghost movies use to be with honest scares instead of the “jump-loud-music” scares in current films.


8 posted on 07/27/2013 7:39:30 PM PDT by Thorliveshere (Tais deau sá taghdedaul!)
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To: autumnraine

Then I’d suggest going before it leaves the theaters. I don’t go to too many movies (I rent from redbox) but I made sure I saw this while it was at the theaters. I wasn’t disappointed.


9 posted on 07/27/2013 7:43:56 PM PDT by bramps (Sarah Palin got more votes in 2008 than Mitt Romney got in 2012)
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To: GeronL
I would love to add a scene to a ghost movie, imagine a room or basement full of baby ghosts and finding out the place used to be an abortuary.

Speaking of that, theres this tv show called Celebrity Ghost Stories. One of the episodes (17th episode of the 4th season) has a segment on comedian Lewis Black. Lewis tells the time of when he was a young 20 something kid. He was hired to help build a new cabin in the woods of Minnesota. While working on that job, he was given a place to stay in another cabin right near the one they were building.

One night when trying to to get some sleep, he heard the sounds of babies crying. At first he thought it was the sounds of animals in the woods, but then he came to realize that the sounds of crying babies were coming from the walls of his cabin. He would hear these sounds the next morning, the next night, etc. It sounded anywhere from only one baby to a dozen babies crying.

A couple of days of this or so, one of his fellow co-workers told Lewis about the history of the cabin he was staying in. Back in the days when abortion was strictly illegal, the town veterinarian used to perform illegal abortions in the cabin. After his co-worker told him that, according to Lewis, he never heard the sounds of the crying babies inside the cabin ever again. He guesses that the spirits of babies simply wanted him to know.

10 posted on 07/27/2013 7:44:29 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

That would spook anyone


11 posted on 07/27/2013 7:46:19 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: lowbridge
Study after study have shown that the occupants of “haunted” houses tend to have very serious...and very long term...psychiatric problems.
12 posted on 07/27/2013 7:47:57 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit.)
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To: lowbridge
So powerful were Nazi Germany’s occult ideas... exorcising them from the planet took six years, ... nearly 4 million men under arms

Methinks somebody has mislaid a decimal point somewhere. The Red Army alone conscripted upwards of 30M men during the war.

13 posted on 07/27/2013 7:48:46 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Gay State Conservative

Which leads one to wonder which is the cause and which the effect.


14 posted on 07/27/2013 7:50:35 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: JoeDetweiler

The Exorcist: 1973.


15 posted on 07/27/2013 7:51:50 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: lowbridge

Hokum and Horse Feathers. I don’t believe any of it either.

I only watch comedies about ghosts or zombies. Ie Ghostsbusters or Zombiland.

I lived, for a few months, about 3 miles from the amityville horror house. This was back in the late 1970s. Drove past it and threw lit packs of fire crackers on the lawn. Being in my twenties and real mature was to blame. And the Jack Daniels didnt hurt either.


16 posted on 07/27/2013 7:57:22 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

“Study after study have shown that the occupants of “haunted” houses tend to have very serious...and very long term...psychiatric problems. “

Nonsense.


17 posted on 07/27/2013 8:01:16 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

I knew a guy 30 years ago in Savannah, GA claimed to live in a haunted house. He was pretty matter of fact about it. Said his wife and kids had all seen and heard weird stuff. When I scoffed he said, “You can come spend the night on the couch”. I always meant to but never got around to it. The house had supposedly been written up in a book about Famous Haunted Houses of the South.


18 posted on 07/27/2013 8:14:54 PM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: lowbridge

Update: According to Box Office Mojo, the movie is now at $72 million. Again, with a production budget of $20m.

It’s rating at Rotten Tomatoes is 85% from the critics, and 88% from the audience. Very good ratings.


19 posted on 07/27/2013 8:22:23 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: lowbridge

Don’t know if I am mental or anything but this is the creepiest thing that ever happened to me.....

In 1985 I was living in Jacksonville ,FL in what I would call “The Projects”, a trio of very low income apartment complexes that were all nestled quite closely together. One summer night, my whole family, about 8 of us at the time, were outside throwing a football around in the parking lot with the other people living in the complex. It was starting to get dark so me(age 8) and my sister(age 6) were told to go inside. We were in a bedroom putting a puzzle together when I saw something move in the hallway. As I looked up to see who/what it was the “thing” came into the room. The best way that I could describe the “thing” is that it looked like a shadow in human form, but without a solid human shape. It was approx. 6 ft tall, taller than my step-dad who is 5ft 9. The “shadow man” came into the room, looked at us, then turned off the light by using the light switch. There was no face, only a shadow that you couldn’t see through. My sister started screaming and I immediately jumped up and turned the light back on. I ran down the hallway because even though I saw the “shadow man” I still thought that maybe my cousin was pranking me or something because I had never seen anything like that before(or since). When I got to the front door I could still see all of the other family members outside in the parking lot. There is no possible way that anyone could have made it outside that fast since we were 2 floors up and I had quickly reacted to the light being turned off. My mom said that no one had been in the apartment except me and my sister. To this day I still do not know what it was. I still have a VERY vivid memory of the incident. The light didn’t flicker out. The power didn’t shut off. I had to physically turn the switch back on to restore the light. This is the only weird or paranormal or whatever you want to call it experience that I have ever had, and the hairs on my neck stand up every time I think about it.


20 posted on 07/27/2013 8:25:34 PM PDT by gop4lyf (Are we no longer in that awkward time? Or is it still too early?)
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To: lowbridge

Wow,that’s amazing, we’ll never know how many minds that story got through to. I commend him for going on TV and telling that story.


21 posted on 07/27/2013 8:28:25 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: lowbridge


22 posted on 07/27/2013 8:28:58 PM PDT by garjog (This message monitored by the IRS and the NSA to improve customer service. Thank you.)
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To: MtBaldy

I met Art bell’s call-in guy here in L.A. 2 years ago as he was friend of my film producer buss. partner. The amount of stuff he told us about the callers for Ghost to Ghost segments caused him to not to sleep the morning after that annual segment. What you hear on the callers who were Ok’d to talk to Art was the tip of the iceberg.


23 posted on 07/27/2013 8:29:46 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Gay State Conservative

I saw this woman interviewed on TV this AM. A more sober and sane appearing person you could not imagine.

Here is the conclusion I came to a long time ago. Either one believes in the unseen world, or not. But if one DOES believe in the unseen world, I’m not sure we can say with certainty what is in it or not.

Me, myself, I would not live in a haunted house and I don’t understand why these people didn’t leave.

On the interview today she said involving the ‘paranormal investigators’ actually made things worse; that they opened a door they couldn’t close.

The involvement of a priest was not discussed in the interview I saw.


24 posted on 07/27/2013 8:33:09 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: GeronL

In the HBO series Six Feet Under one of the characters has a dream and he sees little children playing. He asked who they are ....they were the children who would if been but his girlfriends hadn’t aborted them.


25 posted on 07/27/2013 8:47:43 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: lowbridge

“Road Island”? Wait. Is this article trying to spell Rhode Island?

If that is so now THAT is scary.


26 posted on 07/27/2013 8:52:20 PM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Lol. It’s spelled Rhoad Island in the article as well. I guess the guy couldn’t make up his mind.


27 posted on 07/27/2013 9:02:04 PM PDT by TightyRighty (I enjoy well-mannered frivolity.)
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To: lowbridge

Spirits of babies wouldn’t be hanging out in a cabin, they’ve gone on to be with Jesus after their murders.


28 posted on 07/27/2013 9:02:15 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: jocon307

There’s an unseen world to be sure, angels and demons are real, ghosts aaren’t though.


29 posted on 07/27/2013 9:06:20 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: lowbridge

Road Island?


30 posted on 07/27/2013 9:08:09 PM PDT by rabidralph (Gray State Movie)
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To: Bulwyf

“...ghosts aaren’t though.”

Why couldn’t a human soul manifest itself on earth? If you believe in saints, well they’re just the souls of dead humans. And what about visions of the Virgin Mary?

I’m not trying to be argumentative, and I’m not some big ghostie fan (if ever I saw run I’d run like double heck, I assure you).

But these are the thoughts I’ve had about this stuff. I’ve know too many sensible people who’ve told me they’ve seen/experienced ghosts to just dismiss it out of hand.

The closest I came was hearing my mother’s voice after she died. In my mind, not in my ear if you get what I mean. Kind of long story, but I was in a real quandry and I heard her say just what she would have said if she were alive (and in the end she was right).

Now was that just me talking to myself? Sure it could be,
but that’s not how it seemed at all. And I actually do talk to myself all the time, even out loud a good deal, just putting that in there for accuracy’s sake.

I don’t really count that as a ghost story, but I do feel like my mother’s spirit reached out to me at that moment.


31 posted on 07/27/2013 9:31:50 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: lowbridge; GeronL

I as about to reply to Geron that I am sure places like that really exist.

But I guess you beat me to that punch alright!


32 posted on 07/27/2013 10:03:31 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: lowbridge

A lot of God & Christianity on this site, but I wouldn’t believe it from this nonsense.


33 posted on 07/27/2013 10:17:52 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Thorliveshere
Sounds like this movie is filmed like ghost movies use to be with honest scares instead of the “jump-loud-music” scares in current films.

Not only that but it's not all a bunch of dark scenes where you can't see what's going on.

The movie starts our creepy right away and builds from there with very good pacing.

It's a good movie.

34 posted on 07/27/2013 10:19:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (o : Tagline Test ; -)
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To: jocon307; gop4lyf

A great many people allow themselves to believe in ghosts per se precisely because they have had an experience with a loved one that seemed to suggest contact with the dead was possible. I have family members similarly affected. But the Scriptures do not anywhere suggest contact with the dead is either possible or desirable, except perhaps in the very dark case of Samuel and Saul. We are told instead that Satan and his minions are deceptive to the core. And we are told to avoid any attempts at contact with the dead. Those of us who are not Catholic find this sufficient grounds to direct all our prayers to God directly, to the exclusion of all others.

As for paranormal phenomenon, much of it can be swept aside as pure human psychology. Voices of loved ones in our head, saying what we would expect them to say, probably are of this category. Other phenomena, such as items taking flight out of kitchen cupboards, witnessed by two or more otherwise normal, healthy persons, are more difficult.

But I will say this, and this is purely anecdotal I recognize, but this is what I have seen, that whatever is behind some of these more difficult cases, no matter how they originally present themselves, they do seem to respond to the authority in the name of Jesus. In this the pattern is closer to the Scriptural encounters with demons than mere Hollywood ghostliness.

BTW, just for you, gop4lyf, yours is the second account I have heard of a shadow figure. I knew a young woman (well before I was married) who told me she was seeing such an entity on a regular basis in her apartment, again at the door of her bedroom. Turns out, if I recall correctly, she and a friend had been dabbling with a Ouija board. Subsequently, the board was destroyed and the situation placed under the authority of the name of Jesus, and the apparitions stopped. Not the sort of thing that could be submitted to a scientific journal for peer review, granted, but given the good character of the young ladies involved, I had no reason to doubt the account either. Just thought you might like to know.


35 posted on 07/27/2013 10:45:01 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer

Oy, that sort of freaked me out, not having read the previous post.

Well, I am Catholic and my own mother did warn me (in no uncertain terms) against attempting to contact the dead and yes, ouiji boards too. Those are not to be messed with in any way.

Let me raise this with you, it’s a little random but you seem to know what you’re talking about and it just occurs to me now.

like i said I’m Catholic and we are not raised in Bible reading, but I did once start reading the Bible and in the Old Testament God says to Moses (I think it was Moses, whoever saw the burning bush): I’m the greatest of all the gods, that’s why you must worship me.

Now this really startled me, so I asked a Jewish friend about it. She just said - yeah I know, that’s really weird.

so, what’s the story with that? Is God saying there are lesser gods than He?

It was a King James bible, fwiw. And I stopped reading when they were building the Ark of the Covenant for what seemed like forever.

Well, I’m sure I sound like a dreadful heathen now!


36 posted on 07/27/2013 10:55:15 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: JoeDetweiler

Yeah, that opening statement is bs. Maybe 40 years before 1971, but anyone who grew up in the 60’s knows the culture already was awash in a paranormal craze. Ghost stories, ouija boards, UFOs, the works.


37 posted on 07/27/2013 10:57:12 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Sherman Logan; lowbridge
Methinks somebody has mislaid a decimal point somewhere. The Red Army alone conscripted upwards of 30M men during the war.

Yes, and about 5 million of them died. Compare that to the 450,000 American service men lost in both the European and Pacific theaters. (We had more than 12 million men and women in the service at one time during the war. More over the whole duration.)

No wonder the Russians have no love for the Germans.

38 posted on 07/27/2013 11:30:00 PM PDT by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: jocon307

Well, in the second commandment, “thou shalt have no other gods before me,” the Hebrew word for “gods” is elohim, and that is a word that is capable of a variety of meanings. Generically, it refers to authority. It was used by the Psalmist in reference to Jewish leaders who were mere humans. It is also used of angelic beings. So getting that it is talking about dieties per se is a matter of context.

For example, that command is immediately followed with a command to not build physical idols for the worship of these other “elohim.” Are they real? The passage neither confirms nor denies their reality. But it does affirm they shall not be worshipped.

So flash forward to Paul in 1 Corinthians 10, where he says that idols represent devils. Here we have fallen angelic beings being worshipped, who do try to exert authority over human souls, but who are powerless in the presence of Jesus. Satan is called the god of this world, but he too is a mere angelic being, fallen from his once high place, and doomed to eternal failure.

But I think even more generically, mere things or objects with no supernatural aspect can become false gods. Mammon, for example, which represents the worship of material gain. So really, a false god can be any being or any concept that asserts itself as the supreme governing authority of one’s life apart from the true God.

So no, I don’t think the Bible supports the idea that there are good but lesser deities. Bad beings, false ideals, but no good guy hammer-wielding Thors. Good angels, yes, but they would never presume to themselves the title of deity. For the Christian, there is but one Deity:

Isa 43:10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.


39 posted on 07/28/2013 12:00:22 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: lowbridge
So... They stayed in the house being “tormented” for over a decade?

Somebody my daughter follows on Instagram said the movie wasn't that scary but he freaked out when he went to Taco Bell afterwords and his bill came to $6.66! He posted the receipt!

40 posted on 07/28/2013 2:07:49 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: lowbridge
fWIW I met Ed and Lorraine Warren in the late 80’s as a teen in college and they seemed down to earth and respectable. They gave us a presentation on their paranormal investigations and seemed like good religious people. Never asked for any money so that always makes me believe a persons story more!
41 posted on 07/28/2013 2:20:43 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Springfield Reformer

That was really a great reply; very concise. Thank you!


42 posted on 07/28/2013 3:52:23 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: lowbridge

That show was absolutely chilling


43 posted on 07/28/2013 5:08:31 AM PDT by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: lowbridge

Since this thread is about the paranormal, I’d like to retell what I experienced a couple decades ago when I was a volunteer interpreter at the Old Stone House at the Manassas National Battlefield Park. I should add that this house served as a hospital during both the First and Second Battles of Bull Run—I’m a Southerner and that’s what we called them—and soldiers had died in this house trying to recover from their wounds.

One Sunday evening in the winter (and the sun was rapidly setting) and after the other interpreter had gone home, it was my duty to close up the place. Prior to doing so it was necessary to thoroughly check both floors to make sure no visitors were in the house. That I did.

As I was preparing to lock the door I heard footsteps on the second floor. I knew that shouldn’t be possible since I had just checked that floor and when I came down I stayed at the base of their stairway so no one could have gone by me.

I went upstairs and found that there was no one there. But I damn sure heard those footsteps.

I quickly locked the door and go the hell out of there.

It never happened again.


44 posted on 07/28/2013 5:24:19 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: jocon307

the bible is clear on where souls go, they go to hell or heaven, and we hope heaven, they don’t linger, come back, etc. It’s not biblical to believe anything else. Anything on earth is either angels or demons, souls are gone.


45 posted on 07/28/2013 7:29:41 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf

“Spirits of babies wouldn’t be hanging out in a cabin, they’ve gone on to be with Jesus after their murders.”

Well, why cant they occasionally haunt a cabin AND be with Jesus at the same time?


46 posted on 07/28/2013 7:46:36 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: MacMattico
The Warrens reputations in the paranormal community is a bit iffy. The biggest hit to their reputation is the Amityville horror case. Members of the family have long since admitted that their story was a hoax, but yet the Warrens persisted in claiming it was genuine.

http://www.ghostresearch.org/articles/amityville.html

http://www.prairieghosts.com/amityville.html

http://www.damnedct.com/snedeker-family-member-goes-on-record-with-damned-connecticut/

http://www.damnedct.com/damned-interview-ray-garton/

47 posted on 07/28/2013 7:58:46 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge

only God is omni present. We can’t be in 2 places at once.


48 posted on 07/28/2013 10:23:10 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Beowulf9
“Road Island”? Wait. Is this article trying to spell Rhode Island?
If that is so now THAT is scary.

Look, when the author of the tale is Mr. Curmudgeon we best let him spell stuff any way he wants.

49 posted on 07/28/2013 10:29:53 AM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: lowbridge

Well, they put on an interesting FREE presentation while I was at college. I’m sure my college fees paid them something, but that was out of my control. It was a night of unique entertainment!


50 posted on 07/28/2013 7:38:03 PM PDT by MacMattico
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