Posted on 08/01/2013 9:56:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch
We’re giving all our gold to the government and they leave us worse in health and likely no health
One of my large emergency medical kits came with sutures and stats.
In a pinch, I could probably do it, as long as the sew-ee didn’t wiggle around too much.
But if it was arterial or vascular tearing, they’d be pretty much out of luck.
I’m thinking more and more that the best stuff to have would be good bandages, soap and water, a strong anti-bacterial, and a quart of super-glue!
But no matter. You can't get blood out of a turnip. If the carpenter cannot pay the full bill, what could the hospital do? Not much is my guess.
And I wouldn't feel bad about that. The carpenter is a producer. He contributes to society. There are many that don't, yet get free medical services.
They could put it on a payment plan or something
I’m sorry, I can’t remember the name, but there is a shipboard medical guide that can talk you thru anything. You can frequently see it listed in a sailing magazines book ad’s geared to long distance cruisers. I worked on int’l merchant ships for 6 years and we had the same book and the mate’s swore by it, however everybody usually got out of the way and let the cook take care of things. That drunk old fart could do a nice stitch job.
and truss a nice bird...
Most of peoples work these days is pretty specialized, it’s that division-of-labor thing.
Your average man (or woman) from the 1800’s would have a much wider variety of useful skills and knowledge than 98% of the population today.
When I hear people implying that if there was some kind of large scale economic collapse, then we’ll just go back to the 1800’s, I can’t help but chuckle.
We won’t go back to the 1800’s, we’ll be lucky if we go back to the 8’s!!!
Very true. But here's the problem. It should take a doctor maybe 30 minutes to clean the carpenter's wound, then stitch it up.
So you've got to pay the doctor for 30 minutes of his time, plus you've got to pay for the assisting nurse. And you've got to pay the ER itself for 30 minutes of overhead.
In a sane world, that bill should come to around $300 or so. But I'll bet the bill would be $1000 or more. No attempt at fairness there.
After years working the ER, it was still made me a bit dizzy to fix my own bod!
Horsecrap.
They don't even bind/tape broken ribs anymore. Last little accident broke 3 ribs, including one that intruded into the pleural cavity (but not the lung) and they stuck in a chest tube. That was it for the broken ribs and fractured vert.
I got over it. I don't suffer every time I breath.
Some folks are just too whiney.
/johnny
Utter nonsense.
I've had three broken ribs.
Get put on a gun grab list or self-medicate your broken heart with a lot of whiskey and loose women? Your choice.
I am never going to go to the doctor again.
find one that will work under the table.... in a manner of speaking
When I was a kid, I and others did use Sloan's Liniment for a sore pitching arm, or a twisted ankle, or other hurt muscle. I suppose all it did was provide a counter-irritation so bad that you didn't mind the original hurt. Capsicum pepper grease did the same thing.
Rubbing Vicks Vaporub on your chest and applying a warm, comforting neck cloth eased the breathing of a child with pneumonia. If things were really bad, one obtained a wicked-looking Vapo-Cresoline Lamp that provided a smelly vapor to open up one's airways. It was used to save my life when as an infant I nearly died of croup.
For chapped hands, one used Corn Husker's Lotion ; and kids sold Cloverine Salve from door to door (both still available). It was said to be good for warts, moles, sore holes, and pimples on the nipples. But the truly very best healing salve for cuts, light wounds, abrasions, or anything that could get chapped and infected was Bag Balm, a black, stiff salve in a square can. It was always in every cow barn, and its uses are many, for example "squeaky bed springs, psoriasis, dry facial skin, cracked fingers, burns, zits, diaper rash, saddle sores, sunburn, pruned trees, rifles, shell casings, bed sores and radiation burns." Bag Balm is also still available. (I could have sworn that before antibiotics, in the 1940s and before, the can contained teat wicks immersed in the salve, and used for treating mastitis, and what you used was just that left over after removal of wicks. But I could be quite wrong--an old dairy-farmer could tell you.)
Band-Aids were for the upper class wussies, who could afford such treatment for their little "boo-boos." A real cut demanded a cut or torn inch-wide strip of clean, worn-out old linen wound about the cut. The end of the strip was slit back a couple or three inches to provide a method to tie the wrapping in place. Then on with finishing the work one had to do for the day.
Of course, every one knew that aspirin was a refinement of the acetylsalicilic acid leached from chewing bark stripped from a willow branch --
My father gave me an old book on medicine for humans and farm animals from the beginning of the 20th century. You could go to a town and the pharmacist would dispense to you all kinds of narcotics for your use if needed. No doctors and your farm was 50 miles from town. My grandmother, born in the late 1800’s could fix anything and most medicines were growing flowers or weeds that was used along with bark from certain tree’s...dad died in 1988 and his generation passing left us without a lot of nature medicines. Most of todays medicines are man made from those same plants my grandma used to use.... Dad once said his mother cured his brother of allergies by feeding him a special hemlock tea. There are several types of hemlock. Most poison. Dad had many allergies but they didn’t show up until he was an adult...gave me a recipes for a great salve that used creosote. The Rexall drug store was all out of creosote and wasn’t going to order any more as it was seldom sold anymore. That was when drug stores were really drug stores and not like the one’s today...
I lived across the road from you. Remember the skinny blond kid who always hung around with the older boys? That was me.
Were your ribs fractured or broken?
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