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Rachel Jeantel's Language is English — It's Just Not Your English
PolicyMic ^ | July 3, 2013 | Marina Bolotnikova

Posted on 08/06/2013 12:04:45 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: RginTN

Bless Ya and Welcome to Free Republic.


61 posted on 08/06/2013 3:34:12 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So a 200 pound slab of ghetto attitude doesn’t want to speak standard American English? This is a surprise. “Privileging” one dialect allows intelligibility, coherence and accurate communications.

Show me one piece of good literature or poetry, a technical manual or assembly instructions written in this putative alternate dialect of English.

We’ve all heard this lame Ebonics alibi before. Give it a rest. Standard American English is the language of the productive, the useful, the law abiding, the ones who used to make this country work.


62 posted on 08/06/2013 3:42:10 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s a dumbed down language using English words.

She speaks English in the same manner as a second year student speaks a foreign language. A hodgepodge of nouns and verbs that makes the listener guess at true meaning.

To ever listen to two Jeantels talking is to realize that they can barely communicate, taking 5 minutes to convey what 20 seconds of well constructed language could convey.

To paraphrase Woopie, if you don’t want to be treated like a moron, you will have to speak English-English.


63 posted on 08/06/2013 3:44:04 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Jeantel’s speech??

Obama’s speech??

What can we infer from obozo’s speech inflection? I had never thought about that before. What do his speech characteristics tell about his past?


64 posted on 08/06/2013 3:50:11 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, since then a State in the US, but it is Still Texas where I live.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Standard American English is the language of the productive, the useful, the law abiding, the ones who used to make this country work.”

That’s right; now apply the same lax grading standard to math, history, etc., and you have the current state of education in urban black (and increasingly in white) education. No way to compete in a global workforce, especially when the foreigners come here and quickly grasp the language better.


65 posted on 08/06/2013 4:00:42 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

Speakin’ a poetry and literature, the Irish showed the English how their own language should be used. There is actually some great “Ebonic” literature, in American Negro folk tales and songs, much of it captured, unfortunately, by white intermediaries, so it is discounted as racists. I am thinking of Steven Foster and Joel Chandler Harris. Even Margret Mitchell accurately captured authentic era African American speech.

Young Master Soetoro is legatee of none of this.


66 posted on 08/06/2013 4:08:02 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Doing the same thing and expecting different results is called software engineering.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If she spoke the a different dialect of English she could have been more fluent in her lies, just saying.


67 posted on 08/06/2013 4:13:05 AM PDT by BilLies (I despise The Progressive Liberal American Press, its corporations, management, reporters, readers.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

William Faulkner may have written in that southern language; it looks bizarre because of the number of apostrophes and such.

When you work with people in 2013 who ask things like, “How he do that?” and, “Why he do that?”, then you know there is little hope for so many of them. They are the first victims of automation in my company; in fact, they were the driving force behind much of it. Computer programs don’t forget mailing addresses, write one amount in numbers on a check then a different amount in words across the face of it, etc...


68 posted on 08/06/2013 4:13:39 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Dick Vomer
Nope, you missed it.

"Dats just retartet!" (Final "d" pronounced as "t" by some in Midwest, at least by some TV media blacks.)

69 posted on 08/06/2013 4:38:20 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Some years ago the esteemed Walter Williams said that if you see that your future lies in prison then learn ebonics. If you see that your future lies in business then learn Standard English.”.......

Nothing more needs to be said.

If memory serves me correctly, not too long ago there had been a push to actually “teach” ebonics in public schools.

That said, perhaps there are classes in ebonics being taught somewhere we are not aware of. Just another odumbo “Executive Order”?


70 posted on 08/06/2013 4:43:42 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article, idiotic though it is, is well written in very clear and proper standard English.

As an experiment, I would love to see the author translate it into “Black English,” and see what clarity remains.

If you cannot speak or write clearly, you cannot think clearly.


71 posted on 08/06/2013 4:49:51 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She speaks the negro dialect


72 posted on 08/06/2013 4:51:25 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: LeoWindhorse

Or that if they are going to breed, at least try to make the family tree fork a little.


73 posted on 08/06/2013 4:54:19 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: arthurus

Agreed, and putting tattoos on your face, neck, and visible chest area is a damn fine way of making yourself unemployeable in any legitimate, meaningful employment.


74 posted on 08/06/2013 4:58:02 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: Fai Mao

“My Chinese wife does complain that our grand kids don’t speak good Chinese”

That sentence is as grammatically incorrect as anything Jeantel has ever said.


75 posted on 08/06/2013 4:59:58 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Language isn’t just communication with others, your brain uses it internally, words are the building blocks of thoughts and concrete blocks are better than mud bricks.


76 posted on 08/06/2013 5:01:01 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The rain in Spain falls mainly on the plain.


77 posted on 08/06/2013 5:06:30 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Prescriptivism systematically and invariably privileges the language of the already powerful."

Yeah, now say that in "black" english.

How's this: "yo be f*ckin' wit me"

78 posted on 08/06/2013 5:11:57 AM PDT by Pietro
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To: Utilizer

Not only the language but their appearance and presentation usually coincides. When your hair looks like a poodle and your dressed in clown clothes and covered in tattoos with body piercings, expect the grammar to coincide.


79 posted on 08/06/2013 5:16:10 AM PDT by DeWalt
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

You could also compare this thread to the standard english spoken and written 100 years ago and make the observation that all of us are speaking a less intelligent version of the language.


80 posted on 08/06/2013 5:18:05 AM PDT by Fuzz
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