do remember: the enemy of my enemy is my friend .. verily, dudes
1 Cor. 9:19-23
For though I am free from all men, I have made myself a servant to all, that I might win the more; and to the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might win Jews; to those who are under the law, as under the law, that I might win those who are under the law; to those who are without law, as without law (not being without law toward God, but under law toward Christ), that I might win those who are without law; to the weak I became as weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.
That's certainly not what Jesus said. He said the Gospel would be incredibly divisive.
Of course they are welcome to the pro-life movement. It is their right to express their views. NO less than a pagan pro-abort has the right to express their views.
How is it a question?
That's a definition of what abortion does, not an explanation of why it is immoral.
Antibiotics interrupt the normal process of bacteria killing you.
Currently the President of the United States is a man who celebrates abortions of all sorts. He was elected twice. The MSM has made a political icon of a vile woman in Texas who promotes late term abortion. America is in an advanced state of decadence. Anytime anyone comes to a rational insight on abortion, it is a welcome occurrence.
What a ridiculous premise.
Of course someone can be pro-life without necessarily being religious or being of different faiths or being atheist. After all, it the conviction is called pro-LIFE not pro-religion or pro a particular religious ideology.
http://www.godlessprolifers.org/home.html
http://www.l4l.org/
The one thing that major religions agree on is that abortion is wrong.
Any sane person can see that jabbing a needle into a babies head to kill it is wrong.
“Atheists, agnostics, pagans, and more: do they have a place in the pro-life movement?”
...inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness apply to everyone, so why shouldn’t they? As long as they’re US citizen’s, they can decide for themselves whether to be left-leaning, “moderate”, right-leaning or some combination of all three positions when they go to the polls as a registered voter.
The right to support and defend those rights are no less applicable to those individuals and groups, are they not?
Why couldn’t a person be pro-life, atheist, church-taxing AND conservative? And as far as I’m concerned, I wouldn’t expect an explanation for what possesses them to have such mixed and seemingly contradictory values.
Would like to post a brief comment on the more general topic of using religious/biblical arguments for political and social issues outside a religious environment.
It is highly counter-productive. I’ve had discussions with people on FR where they thought citing scripture was definitive and should end the argument.
What they don’t seem to realize is that the only people this argument will convince is those who already agree with them. A very large percentage, probably a majority, of those who disagree or are undecided are repelled by such arguments and forced in reaction towards the other side.
IMHO...
Abraham, in faith, was prepared to sacrifice his son Isaac by command of the Lord, and God sacrificed his only son our Lord Jesus Christ as blood atonement for the sins of men. The key difference between child sacrifices is this: what is commanded by God - it is up to God and God alone which lives are taken and which are not, and when. God gives life and he taketh it away. He has not commanded the abortions we see happening today, thus they are a violation of the sixth commandment.
Throughout the Bible there are teaching examples of the admonition to avoid alliances with pagans and heathens.
Such alliances offer the illusion of helping in the short term only to ultimately fail us.
This is because the alliance signifies that we are placing our faith in the alliance instead of God, who exhorts us to worship him alone and to be obedient to his word. And his word tells us to separate ourselves from evil, to not deny his Son Jesus Christ, and to worship God and God alone.
We also have the charge to bring God’s Word out to the world. So often we hear that Christ ate with publicans and sinners, that the sick need the physician, which is true. As we do this, however, we must keep in mind that we need to be changing the world to conform to God’s Word, not have the world changing us to reject God’s Word.
Regarding unbelievers all around us, who may agree with us on some points and disagree on others, we are clearly directed in Romans 12 to:
18 “If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.”
Yet nowhere in the Bible are we told that we are thus permitted to use this as an excuse to “agree” with them in order to “get along” or “receive their help” when the “agreement” would imply that we deny even a single truth in God’s Word. If a person can help in the effort to end abortion, but we have to gossip with them to enlist their aid, we need to refrain from the gossip, because the Bible exhorts us to refrain from gossip. We are commanded to be obedient to Scripture AND spread the Gospel at the same time; we can’t say for practical reasons we had to abandon Scripture in order to spread the Gospel.
If we “love” someone, we tell them the truth, we don’t lie to them. We must remember, of course, that the entire Bible can not be pushed into someone’s mind by our preaching to them in a single long conversation.
Whether a particular person is saved or not is not up to us, but entirely up to God.
That does not relieve us of our Biblical duty to testify our faith in Christ Jesus when the situation arises.
It is important to remember that those who are truly saved have the benefit of the Holy Spirit dwelling within them, while those who are not saved do not.
Though not at a point of conversion early in their life, in God’s ultimate redemptive plan for an individual, if he will save them, then he will somehow preserve and protect them until that point of conversion happens in their life, even though such preserving and protecing may not be apparent contemporaneously.
God does work through humans, both saved and unsaved. He employs those whom he will as the means to his ends.
Christians should employ the blessing of their ability to perceive what a person is up to on a case by case basis - there is no Biblical exhortation to be foolish and many to be smart. There is a time for immediate dramatic action and a time for patience; a time to simply hush up, a time to rant and a time to simply speak a wise word or two.
Though we see all the evil and murder of the world happening all around us, God’s Word tells us that we have absolutely never any need to fear, and that we should always continue in our faith in God and obedience to his Word.
Absolutely. Respect for life is not the exclusive province of Christians.
do remember: the enemy of my enemy is my friend .. verily, dudes