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VANITY: Are there any conservative groups for teachers working in public schools?
myself | 8/24/2013 | knit1purl2

Posted on 08/24/2013 5:52:26 AM PDT by knit1purl2

I am considering a career change and think I would be a great teacher if i could survive the political arena. I am looking for comrades in arms. Are there any groups of conservative teachers that would be willing to organize to combine efforts to promote conservative thinking at your school? Would such a group survive?


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Education
KEYWORDS: education; educators; learning; nonunion; states; teachers; teaching; washington

1 posted on 08/24/2013 5:52:26 AM PDT by knit1purl2
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To: knit1purl2

You may want to consider body armor.


2 posted on 08/24/2013 5:58:15 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: knit1purl2
Public schools? Isn’t that counterintuitive? After all, the notion of “(f)ree education for all children in public schools” is one of the ten planks of communism outlined in the Communist Manifesto. Sounds inherently far-left to me.
3 posted on 08/24/2013 6:01:32 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: knit1purl2

I’m a public school teacher. Rethink your new carreer choice, as I’m now rethinking my future carreer.


4 posted on 08/24/2013 6:08:24 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: knit1purl2

You’d have to survive the certification process: Public teacher certification requires several years of socialist indoctrination. I had a friend who went that way - smart guy ....


5 posted on 08/24/2013 6:10:10 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: knit1purl2
Are there “good” teachers in our nation's godless socialist-entitlement schools? Yes, maybe. These are the teachers who are warning every parent they meet to NOT send their children into the government indoctrination camps. They likely don't last long in the socialist-entitlement K-12 schools.

Here's the conundrum:

1) — All government socialist-entitlement K-12 schools in this nation are godless in their worldview. Godless is NOT a religious neutral environment for the child in either content or consequences. The child risks learning that religious belief is to be left at the doorstep of his home. He risks learning that religious belief is to be hidden away behind closed doors as if it were a bathroom activity. He **WILL** learn to think and reason godlessly. He must just to cooperate in the godless government environment.

And...Those teachers who attempt to sneak in some of their religious values and worldview ARE teaching an important lesson. Lesson: religious people are sneaky and are too lukewarm and timid to boldly proclaim their faith.

2) — Government schools are the very definition of a single-payer, compulsory-use, compulsory-funded, and socialist entitlement program. Children who attend these socialist-entitlement K-12 schools risk learning that any voting mob that is powerful enough to give them tuition-free schooling is powerful enough to give them **lots** of free stuff. As a teacher in these schools you are **willingly** agreeing to uphold, support, and establish what may be their very first taste of socialist-entitlement.

3) — Government schools are compulsory for all children whose parents can not afford to ransom them through home or private schooling. The children in government schools risk learning to be comfortable with government compulsion and the threat of police action to **force** them to use a government socialist-entitlement. As a teacher in these schools you are **willingly** accepting a job that supports and upholds teaching children to be comfortable with this evil.

4) — You are likely a very **NICE** person. Unfortunately, young and naive parents will notice how NICE you are and falsely conclude that the godless and socialist-entitlement schools can be **that** bad. How could they be? Hey! You're soooooo NICE and you teach there.

6 posted on 08/24/2013 6:11:41 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: Olog-hai
Just for the record, free public education was enshrined in the Northwest Ordinance of 1787, one of the three pieces of organic law, along with the Declaration and the Constitution, on which this country was founded.

The purpose was to insure an educated and moral citizenry, without which a democratic republic could not endure. There are many good conservative American teachers but not enough, and they do need an organization of their own. Maybe some motivated freeper teacher could start one.

7 posted on 08/24/2013 6:17:10 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: knit1purl2

Teacher certification is only for the public schools. I would never again teach in the publics. But the Catholic schools do not require certification, and neither do the privates. They have much more control over what is taught and are non-union. Plus, they can kick bad kids out, which the publics cannot do.

Tutoring 1:1 is also a great way to teach; there are tutoring centers or you can tutor on your own. There are classes offered in the homeschool bookstores/ centers as well, and those kids are usually much better to work with.

Have fun. Teaching is a wonderful career. The kids are knocked out that you want to spend time with them, and it is a blessing, indeed, to get to do that. I laugh all day long with my students, and I learn something new every day. Drop me a note if you want to talk further.


8 posted on 08/24/2013 6:20:11 AM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: knit1purl2
There are two alternatives to government school teaching.

What is becoming popular is conservative / faith-grounded government school teachers leaving that decrepit system and forming homeschool co-ops.

Go to homeschooling websites and get into a network of parents in your area who individually homeschool their children. Look to group together children from two or more families and form a homeschooling co-op.

Homeschooling parents are usually very flexible in arranging the logistics and curriculum with other like-minded parents. It is one way to give parents confidence to move from government schools and into the co-ops. It's a movement whose time is overdue. We must take back our educational system.

9 posted on 08/24/2013 6:32:40 AM PDT by libertymaker
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To: knit1purl2

That’s like asking if there are any Col. Sanders fan clubs for chicken...


10 posted on 08/24/2013 6:54:06 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: knit1purl2

You can teach in a public school, but do not verbalize any of your conservative views. If you appear to be conservative, you will not be given tenure. Teach in a private school where you will be appreciated.


11 posted on 08/24/2013 6:56:42 AM PDT by abclily
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To: knit1purl2
Are there any groups of conservative teachers that would be willing to organize to combine efforts to promote conservative thinking at your school?

I am a conservative, and a former long-time public school teacher. And I must tell you that it's not appropriate for teachers to band together to promote any political agenda. Many do it, of course, but it is not appropriate.

I say that because teachers are employees, not co-equals with administrators. It is not the job of teachers, individually or as a group, to attempt to set policy.

Now here's what's appropriate, very appropriate. Conservative teachers need to exercise their right as citizens to make changes at the school board level. That's where the power ultimately is.

Band together to get sensible, solid conservatives on your local school board. But act as a citizen, not as a teacher.

By the way, teaching can be a great career, but only if you pick the right school district. There are great public schools out there!

Check the student test scores of any district you are considering. The scores should all be online. You'll probably want to avoid districts with low test scores. In those districts you will be constantly hassled (and threatened) to improve those scores.

It also goes without saying that you should avoid schools in high-crime areas. It's very easy to get burned-out and disillusioned in such schools.

You might want to consider a good private school, but be aware that such schools only pay about half what public schools pay, and typically do not offer a pension.

Good luck to you. And let me give you some practical career advice. Strongly consider getting dual certified. The more subjects are certified to teach, the more valuable you are to a good school district.

Here's an example. A friend of mine was certified to teach music. But music teachers are not in great demand. So he took enough courses to get certified in chemistry also (he had a strong interest in both subjects). It was the chemistry that got him hired.

If you have any questions that I might be able to answer, feel free to send me a FR email.

12 posted on 08/24/2013 7:14:28 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: knit1purl2
Check out Conservative Teachers of America.
13 posted on 08/24/2013 7:38:24 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: knit1purl2
The Association of American Educators is a nonpartisan professional organization, but it is opposed by the teachers' unions.
14 posted on 08/24/2013 7:46:33 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: knit1purl2

Tea party?


15 posted on 08/24/2013 7:50:22 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Kill Obamacare not wound it.)
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To: hinckley buzzard
That is not what the ordinance in question said at all.
Religion, morality, and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.
— Article 3, Clause 1
Nothing about education being “free” and/or “puhlic”. Private schools and private education certainly could be part of such an ordinance, therefore.
16 posted on 08/24/2013 7:54:21 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; hinckley buzzard

“puhlic” = “public”

Sorry about the typo.


17 posted on 08/24/2013 7:57:46 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: hinckley buzzard

Do you work for one of the government’s socialist-entitlement and godless K-12 schools.

Our Founding Fathers were not gods. They were wrong about “public” education.

And...Guess what? If our Founding Fathers could see what socialist-entitlement and compulsory schooling has done to this country they would be appalled!


18 posted on 08/24/2013 9:20:49 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: knit1purl2
Here are some websites that should be of interest to a conservative teacher:
  1. California Teachers Empowerment Network

  2. Jay P. Greene's Blog

  3. Right on the Left Coast--Views from a Conservative TEacher

  4. Linking and Thinking on Education by Joanne Jacobs

  5. Public Education: A Paarent's Concerns and Suggestions

  6. The Three R's of Education: Respect, Reality & Reason

  7. Bluebird's Classroom

  8. Buckhorn Road

19 posted on 08/25/2013 7:41:36 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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