Skip to comments.Vanity-The entitlement class is getting on my nerves.
Posted on 08/29/2013 8:50:43 AM PDT by barmag25
The entitlement class is starting to get a little pushy and the cash cow they are leaching off of is starting to get ticked off.
I'm sitting outside the Oakland international airport and a guy walks up asking for money. ( I don't give anything to people who ask, only those who don't) This isn't the first time somebody has asked me for a handout and probably won't be the last.
I didn't have anything on me anyway. I replied to the guy that I didn't have any cash on me. Sorry I couldn't help him. He looks at me and says there's an ATM right inside the door and stood there expecting me to jump up and run and get him a twenty.
What nerve and sense of undeserved entitlement.
I wouldn't post a vanity over a odd Occurrence as this one but between San Francisco and Oakland the past 3 days this is the 4th time someone has asked me or somebody around me to go to the bank and get them money.
Needless to say I didn't go get him any Obama money.
Expect to see a lot more of this.
They’re pushy, crass, brazen and bold.
Airport authorities ought to better police those freaks.
A friend of mine handles situations like this by giving a rambling speech in Serbian, complete with exaggerated hand gestures.
Of course, this only works if you speak Serbian, and the panhandler does not. :)
The real entitlement class comprises of tens of millions of unionize government employees which your paying *100* percent of their lottery style wages, benefits and retirement pensions...
It's just anecdotal, but I sense a real attitude rebellion brewing in this country, and when it explodes the entitlement class won't know what hit them.
“Vanity-The entitlement class is getting on my nerves.”
I could have posed the same idea. Of course if I wanted to put it in “Breaking News” I would have had to post it 30 years ago.
They are well past my nerves by now.
When I worked for Chrysler in the 1990’s one of my friends went to Vegas and a beggar asked him for money. My friend Dan then went into a spiel about the government having a safety net for people like you. The guy just stared dumbfounded at Dan. It was always one of Dan’s shticks to use when we were having conversations of who was going to buy coffee for the day. We always got a good laugh out of it in the Good Old days, so to speak.
When will obama phones come equipped with credit card readers to help redistribute the wealth.
“Entitlement” says it all. Even worse than the aggressive begging is the total absence of a sense of gratitude.
You are just lucky he didn’t break a flashlight over your head because you resisted
I tell beggars: no thank you.
They stand there confused and then I repeat it for them.
They feel awkward and move on.
We did the same. Whenever I'm at a store and the cashier hits me with the "would you like to give a dollar to...", I reply; "Obama got that dollar". If they look puzzled I say; "go ask Obama, he has all my money"
I’d say it’s about time it got on your nerves.
It was money we paid in on every dime we ever earned. I am not begging for it back, I am demanding it back, with interest and adjusted for what was once called inflation but should now be called monopolization.
It is my money and I am entitled to it!
Telling beggars you don’t have anything to give them implies you would if you did. They are calling your bluff by offering an obvious solution. Suggest you try telling panhandlers, phone solicitors, etc., “no, but thanks for asking” and end all discussion. Shuts them down without triggering the rush of false outrage they crave.
The rise of the entitlement society was a direct result of the good will and charity of the American people and a desire to give people a helping hand.
The end result has been the exact opposite of what was intended. Welfare has kept people locked into dependency on government and a basic subsistence poverty lifestyle.
This is combined with an amazingly arrogant and in your face attitude of entitlement.
No one seriously believes welfare is a helping hand and support for welfare is dying fast.
Unfortunately, the levels of government dependent people are growing so rapidly that they are becoming a majority voting block that politicians are trying to exploit.
Right now the system chugs on using borrowed money but the entitlement system as it stands is not sustainable for more than a few few years into the future.
In really, the system is already dead, but it continues as long as we can borrow 50 cents of every dollar the government spends, but the deficit is just to large to paper over the fact that there are too many people riding the system and too few paying into it so it is going broke.
At some point the entitlement system is going to collapse when there is no more money to pay the system.
More taxes are not going to help because working americans already pay between 40-60% of their income to taxes so it will be difficult to squeeze twice as much tax revenues to cover our 50% Federal Budget deficit.
The lack of money to fund the system is going to leave millions of people who have no education, no job skills and most important, no desire to work combined with an an amazingly in your face attitude that society owes them a free ride without the means to support themselves.
On the other hand , we will have the people who are working hard and paying for the system having no sympathy for people who make more on welfare by not working than the workers who are paying the bills make for their hard work.
Not going to be a good situation.
I should of put this breaking news and typed it with the caps lock on
There are a lot of people HERE who are getting government checks -- and they're just gettign what's OWED to them -- and they don't understand how big the "entitlement" problem really is. It's different for them, you see.
arrogant and in your face attitude of entitlement
That’s exactly what I have been seeing.
Of course, this only works if you speak Serbian, and the panhandler does not. :)
I don't speak Serbian, either, but can do a halfway credible job of faking my way through broken, heavily Russian-accented English. "Da, tovarishch? Not really money you are meaning to be giving me to? No, no! Please! Not really now I am needing money some of now today, but most deeply now thanking you I am, nyet?" Shaking hands with them is... well, "another matter," I'll just say, and let it go at that.
You think when citizens are forced to give up their hard earned dollars on the promise it will be returned decades later, they should not expect their money to be returned? You consider that an entitlement, when they paid for it in advance?
Do you think the same of private investment plans and 401ks?
Ha Ha Ha!
“Rushlish” is my fake language of choice in these situations as well...
Tovarich, Ya ne govoryoo pangliski, spasiba, da s’vidonyah!
Panhandlers don’t speak German, either. One equatorial type came up to me on a street corner and asked for money. I replied in German. He looked at me confused and said, “What you say?” and I repeated in German. Another confused look and he turned away and said to his fellow vultures, “I don’ think he speaks English”.
Just last night I was walking to my car in a private parking lot where I work. A big, well-fed thug materialized out of nowhere and asked for “change to pay for parking”. This parking lot requires plastic cards to raise the gates; there is no one to take money. I said I had none and briskly walked back into the building while he stood there and cursed. We are unfortunately not allowed to carry guns where I work.
Private investment and 401ks are fundamentally different. There is an account, with your name on it, and that money is yours. Short of government theft, no one can take that stuff away from you, because it absolutely is YOURS.
But the government doesnt have any money. There is no box with your name on it. There is no stash of YOUR money. The government isnt dipping into the pile that YOU paid into and giving you YOUR money. What the government is doing is dipping into MY pocket, taking MY money and giving it to YOU.
And you think the government is entitled to do this, because you are OWED.
We have met the enemy, and he is us.
***Airport authorities ought to better police those freaks.***
I remember when it was the Hari kirshnas hassling people at airports years ago. Did they finally get chased off?
I remember those freaks also!
I think they must have been run off, or disbanded...
Praise God! I haven’t seen even one of them in ages.
Actually, private doesn't lock that money up in a box. It is loaned out and put to work. The risk is minimal with quality institutions, but there is risk.
The government isnt dipping into the pile that YOU paid into and giving you YOUR money. What the government is doing is dipping into MY pocket, taking MY money and giving it to YOU.
While I understand your point, I'm on the paying side still and for a long time.
I think everyone got conned
I make my own plans, assuming it won't be returned. But I won't go quietly into the night while others are paid and my funds never returned.
Any solution to this problem will be painful, but there is absolutely no hope of a better future until more people wake up and say, Im part of the problem. Its not just other people living off entitlements. Im really doing the same thing. Now how can I begin to change that?
We need to push for more policies that allow people to make their own plans, and for fewer policies which enforce government charity which breeds dependency among both Liberals and Conservatives.
I will take any budget cut, in any program, at any time. There are no sacred cows.
CCG, we've may have had this discussion before. SS was sold to us AS a retirement program, and as you pointed out, many of us have been paying into for decades. What exactly are you proposing? That people decline their SS? That they send their checks back, or refuse to cash them?
There’s a line in Fiddler on the Roof, a guy gives the town beggar a smaller coin than usual because times are hard. The beggar says, “So because you are having hard times, *I* have to suffer?”
I’ve had beggars call out sweetly, “Good morning, Miss, can you spare a coin, please,” or words to that effect. But when I walk by without giving them any money, it’s, “You @#$%%^ !@#&^!” That’s just one reason why I never give them money.
Um...ok...that's why social security IS an 'entitlement'. Sheeesh.
It needs to be done intelligently and carefully -- but it needs to be done.
A lot of people (including many Conservatives) are totally sold on the concept of government charity when they see themselves as the recipients. Oh, sure, other people don't deserve their gubmint check, but I sure do!
Any legislation which diminishes government support should be embraced.
The same for us. Instead, I keep reducing clutter and donating whatever to Easter Seals. I itemize and claim the small tax deduction.
When the GOP calls asking for money, I tell them: “We are living in the Obama economy. I have no money for political donations.” The response is a shocked silence.
A few weeks ago, we hired someone to do odds jobs for which my husband’s time is limited. The person we hired is an old hippie, *down on his luck*, a former mason who says he is broke and homeless (he is 57 and lives with his adult children)due to spending years caring for aging relatives. Doing the math, he hasn’t worked for nearly 15+ years, lived off the relatives and didn’t need a house since he lived with them. We broached the idea of hiring him to his DIL, who is a physician. She was enthusiastic and said he “could ride his bike” here, since they live nearby. He agreed and insisted on cash so he wouldn’t lose his welfare (!). He showed up in his son’s car.
He showed up late, worked 3 hours,was not very productive and cornered us to talk for at least an hour of that time, did not show up the next day nor in the past weeks to claim the $30 we still owe him.
My empathy has vanished.
****Actually, private doesn't lock that money up in a box. It is loaned out and put to work. The risk is minimal with quality institutions, but there is risk.***
READ AND WEEP!
“The program is designed so that contributions plus interest on the investments of the social security trust funds will be sufficient to meet all of the costs of benefits and administration, now and into the indefinite future—without any subsidy from the general funds of the Government.
Both the Congress and the Executive Branch, regardless of political party in power, have scrupulously provided in advance for full financing of all liberalizations in the program.”
NOW IT IS GOING BROKE by the SSA’s own admission.
Where your money really went....
The REAL entitlement class sits in both House's of Congress...and the White Hut.
I don't disagree. President Bush hinted at "private retirement accounts," and was pilloried for it. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try, in a more intelligent way, to end SS.
But let me ask you this: what of the money we've already contributed to SS? Is that shot? Don't we deserve some compensation for it?
Brother and I have done the same. Sorry, I’m all out of sympathy.
I pay in....and it's mandatory. I shouldn't expect to get my money back????
Top it off with I pay DOUBLE because I'm self employed....and it's MANDATORY. And I shouldn't expect to get MY money back????
What's your logic?
I believe there is a more fundamental problem that if not turned around, then efforts in changing the dollar amounts will not ever be effective.
The SS and other programs were put in place because of a voting society that wasn't willing to let individuals suffer from their own bad decisions with the embarrassment of charity.
They force everyone to save money they should have been saving in the first place. They tried to eliminate the need for charity for those that would not or could not.
Charity is an important quality in a quality society. To choose to help those in need rather than being forced by having money taken away by the government.
Decisions need to have consequences. Teach your young otherwise damages the society structure to follow.
Personally, I see war and massive economic upheaval in our future. The notion that we should tally up some reasonable sum and expect our "just" compensation seems, to me, to fundamentally miss the nature of the mess we are in.
What I would like to see is a social infrastructure which allows basic food (rice and beans and not too much more) to be distributed so that even in the midst of the apocalypse we can keep starvation to a minimum. I think that sort of thinking makes sense as a "social safety net". I oppose any government program which would provide any sort of more comprehensive social safety net.
If you can think a successful way to give tens of thousands of dollars to each individual who has been conned by the Social Security scam, then I'll take my hat off to you. But I think we need to worry about more desperate problems.
There is no money.
Far as I'm concerned I just won that argument -- unless you want to come right out and support budget deficits, confiscatory taxes and big government programs to redistribute wealth to benefit priviledged classes of the needy.
I'm on a Conservative site. Where are you?
And it's not others here arguments either.
You know that.
I understand your points.
Do you discount my point?
Is your point other than that?
Marvin Olasky addresses this in his The Tragedy of American Compassion.
As the government welfare state grows, private charity shrinks.
“I don’t have any money. All I have is this wedding ring”
They usually laugh and move on.
If I get panhandled I turn it around on them. “I was just gonna ax you for a dollar”
“No and if you find someone who is giving it away, let me know”
I think if you had gone to the ATM for the guy, he’d have had a gun in your face to walk you back and get more.
You’re understandably annoyed at these beggars but they’re rank amateurs compared to the bankers.