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To: SAJ

Some sources recommend vinegar to kill weeds. That hasn’t been to successful for us in the past. The soil here is pretty acid, too, and the locals recommend increasing the soil pH with nitrogen. Does your vinegar solution kill the ants or just repel them? Are there specific proportions of the other ingredients that are used? Do you make a tea out of them, or do you sprinkle the actual coffee grounds around and then add the other stuff. The idea of using easily available household ingredients is very appealing. Somebody once told me that ants hate orange peels, so I put the peels in the blender and then poured the suspension on the anthill. Next day, the ants from he** were happily carting pieces of orange rind somewhere. In that neighborhood, I was a tremendous source of amusement. They’d see me come outside with my blender, come over and say, “NOW what are you doing?” (It’s nice to be a source of entertainment to others. Woulda been better if some of those interventions worked.)


153 posted on 09/01/2013 9:13:17 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (:))
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To: Silentgypsy
Hi, Gypsy --

I may or may not be doing this the "Panameno" way, but it seems the results are about half-and-half. That is, the 'tonic', as I call it, undoubtedly kills a good proportion of ants that chomp on my plants; equally, some considerable proportion simply get the hell out of Dodge.

A biologist friend explained part of this to me. Coffee grounds, particularly, are painful for ants to walk over. I asked him why and he retreated to (what sounded to me like) scientific gobbledegook. However, as they say, experimental proof is ALL...and ants -- at least the little buggers around here -- really DO NOT like walking over coffee grounds. I've spent dozens of hours just watching (ok, ok, I'm weird...sigh).

Cinnamon and hot peppers (I use the dried flakes) are detested by ants for apparently other reasons, including scent and the way that these 2 ingredients change the 'natural' water in the soil. Further than that, I cannot say. Not sure exactly what repellent/toxic effect the garlic and black pepper have, sorry.

I use what amounts to a 'tea'; all ingredients into a pot, then heat over low for 10-12 minutes. Then apply freely.

However, the plants, particularly sweet peppers (or pimentones as they're called here) 1) seem to have FAR fewer ants messing with them after application, 2) love the nutrients in coffee grounds (controlled experiment -- limited -- with 12 pepper plants treated and 12 untreated in the same bed for 4 weeks), and 3) are overall benefiting.

I have found it helpful to treat the soil with the 'tonic', then, a day or two later depending on rain, to sprinkle -- generously -- coffee grounds in the same place(s) that were treated.

I have NOT used orange peel at all, but I sort of suspect that ants might actually be attracted by orange peel due to their content of natural sugars. Frankly, I should consider lemon peel to be a more effective idea -- just a guess.

The major ant pest to pepper plants here (probably tomatoes, too, but I don't grow them) are the leaf-cutters, which can denude a plant's leaves 70, 80, 90% overnight. The 'tonic' appears to work quite well in repelling (at least -- I don't count corpses (g!)) these.

Hope this is of some use (and my poor, formerly healthy, salvia plant seems about to give up the ghost; we'll see), and all the best luck with your gardening!

163 posted on 09/01/2013 3:23:07 PM PDT by SAJ
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