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Hunchback King Richard III infected with worms
Associated Press ^ | Sep 3, 2013 9:17 PM EDT | Maria Cheng

Posted on 09/04/2013 8:34:02 AM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: wardaddy

There is no evidence Richard killed his nephews. They did disappear from sight under his rule. Some people think they were escaped to Europe. Check out the Perkin Warbeck story. The children were declared illegitimate after it became clear that their father was a bigamist. No way would Richard (as protector of the realm) have allowed a “bastard” to assume the throne. That’s just the way medieval royal minds worked.

Richard instituted bail into England so that commoners would not lose their homes and farms while under arrest (usually arrested by corrupt nobles, btw). He was an outstanding soldier, well-liked by his troops, who stampeded Henry VII at Bosworth while that gentlemen hid behind a tree.

He deeply mourned the loss of his young boy and wife.

He had scoliosis - curvature of the spine; no hunchback. No withered arm, either.

Thomas More made all this stuff up because he grew up in the house of Thomas Morton - Richard’s mortal enemy.


21 posted on 09/04/2013 9:48:14 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Olog-hai
A daily dose of diatomaceous earth would have cured that.
22 posted on 09/04/2013 9:53:44 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: ops33

Richard died in battle - the last English king to die in battle. He was killed by the soldiers of the usurper king, Henry VII (who did not fight - just hid behind his soldiers). When this kind of death took place, the body was put on display for several days to ensure the population knew that the king was dead. Richard, in very unusual fashion, was mutilated after death, displayed, and then thrown into a hastily-created ditch within a friary. We don’t know whether he had a Christian burial.


23 posted on 09/04/2013 9:54:32 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Sacajaweau

This was not really the digging up of a body. Richard’s remains were lost and thought to have been thrown into a river. But the Richard the Third Society tracked down where they thought he MIGHT be buried (actually, not buried but dumped) and lobbied the city of Leicester to allow them to dig so that he could be buried as an anointed king of England. The rest is grand history!


24 posted on 09/04/2013 9:58:07 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: ops33

Richard was killed in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485. The victorious Tudors desecrated his body and tossed him in a ditch. I believe he was moved around a few times after death..


25 posted on 09/04/2013 9:58:16 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, America's own Perkin Warbeck..)
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To: miss marmelstein

Thanks, but I was wondering how his remains were reburied.


26 posted on 09/04/2013 10:16:00 AM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: ops33

His remains are currently undergoing study at the University of Leicester. Once they’ve concluded their studies, he will be reburied in a beautiful tomb in Leicester Cathedral. There is also a petition going around to have him buried in York. Richard’s home base was York.


27 posted on 09/04/2013 10:28:22 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Olog-hai

Now are the innards of our discontent...


28 posted on 09/04/2013 10:28:39 AM PDT by frossca
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To: cardinal4

No, he was dumped in a hastily dug ditch within Grayfriars and he’s been there until last year.


29 posted on 09/04/2013 10:29:36 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
but what was an English King doing buried under a parking lot

I'll go out on a limb and guess that the parking lot wasn't there when they buried him ;-)

30 posted on 09/04/2013 11:04:25 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

hey you never know, that could have been where they parked horses and carriages, 30 shillings a month.


31 posted on 09/04/2013 11:23:00 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

does the 30 shillings cover the cost of a monthly wash-and-wax? They turn over the horses occasionally so that they’ll start?


32 posted on 09/04/2013 11:29:43 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Olog-hai

ewwww thank you for telling me!!! (not!!)

lol


33 posted on 09/04/2013 1:28:13 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Don 't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’ve read a bit on it too

I’m driving in jelly stone right now

But one noble whose name escapes me claimed he did it for III

note I made clear he didn’t do it personally

And that the bard was too hard on the poor fellow

He is oft maligned and now he’s accused of worms

He stood by Eddie too against that prick Neville


34 posted on 09/04/2013 1:40:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (the next Dark Ages are coming as Western Civilization crumbles with nary a whimper)
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To: miss marmelstein

There is a great book, a work of fiction, by Sharon Kay Penman about Richard III. She has also written about Empress Maude, Henry II, and Richard I. She is an excellent researcher and posits in her book that Lord Bolingbrook? Burlington, maybe? Was responsible for the nephews demise
In the 1600’s, some refurbishing of the tower found two skeletons of boys. We don’t know if they are the nephews. I love British history!


35 posted on 09/04/2013 1:56:47 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Barack Barry Hussein Soetoro Obama, America's own Perkin Warbeck..)
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To: miss marmelstein

Will it be a type of official or state funeral, military honors, etc.?


36 posted on 09/04/2013 3:11:15 PM PDT by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

It's not often anyone takes a look at the remains of an English monarch; parasites probably were commonplace.

37 posted on 09/04/2013 4:19:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: cardinal4

Sharon pinned the murder on Buckingham - a very common suspect. Two children’s bones were found in the 1600s and were exhumed in the 1930s. Impossible to tell the sex of the bones. There were also animal bones found. They are now in an urn in the Abbey. The Queen refuses to have them exhumed.


38 posted on 09/04/2013 4:36:57 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Whoops, and thanks ButThreeLeftsDo!


39 posted on 09/04/2013 4:57:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: SunkenCiv

As often happens when I learn a little bit about some figure in English history, I am now wanting to learn more. In all honesty, my current perception of Richard III is mostly formed from Shakespeare’s treatment of him.


40 posted on 09/04/2013 5:14:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let me hear what God the LORD will speak. -Ps85)
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