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To: Olog-hai
I tried to find out what the current rates are in several states, for purposes of future comparison, and guess what, the Insurance Commissions couldn't tell me. Kaiser Foundation has no info. Kaiser Foundation is an advocacy group for socialized medicine, for a long time, so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. From National Review, Avik Roy:

Liberal reporters and bloggers are trumpeting today a report from the Kaiser Family Foundation which claims that premiums under Obamacare will be “lower than expected.” Talking Points Memo describes the Kaiser paper as, potentially, a “big blow to one of the main conservative talking points against the Affordable Care Act: rate shock.”

But when you thumb through the Kaiser report, you learn something interesting. Its authors did not actually measure whether or not Obamacare would increase premiums relative to what they are today, because they claim it would be too “complicated.”

So if the Kaiser authors didn’t compare Obamacare rates to pre-Obamacare rates, how do they arrive at their conclusion that premium increases will be “lower than expected?” By comparing rates in 2014, under Obamacare, to rates “implied” by a Congressional Budget Office projection about premiums in 2016.

...what matters to the Kaiser authors is not whether rates will go up relative to what they were before Obamacare. What matters is whether rates will go up by even more than the CBO predicts. Their thinking can be summarized this way: If a car today costs $10,000, and the CBO predicts the same car will cost $15,000 next year, next year’s price is “lower than expected” if the price only goes up by 40 percent, instead of the predicted 50 percent.

Needless to say, this is not how average Americans are going to think about rate shock. ...

4 posted on 09/07/2013 7:36:23 AM PDT by La Lydia
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To: La Lydia

Actually the liberal Obama lovers DO accept this explanation. I saw a kid on Hannity spitting out the same double-speak when explaining that rates will not go up as much as people think. He first tried the “rates will go down” spiel but Hannity told him that’s true only if four states.

We have to understand that those who love Obama ... love Obama ... because he’s Obama. None of the rest matters.


5 posted on 09/07/2013 7:41:43 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: La Lydia
Funny how you busted Kaiser Foundations claims of cheaper premiums...that they can't seem to back up.

Propaganda....pablum for the liberal masses. They don't even take the time to see what they're being fed...by the govt.

6 posted on 09/07/2013 7:48:05 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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