Posted on 09/09/2013 12:36:14 PM PDT by nickcarraway
I’ll be sure to tell my father’s cardiac surgeon.
Not all docs are idiots. Some, however, are. Mixed bag there. And most are in fact way too reliant on pharma propaganda.
In my early college days I took a course called Descriptive Geometry. It was on of the courses required among others for civil, mining and mechanical engineering students. We were told the first day that the course was a make or break for higher studies. I did very well in that course as well as calculus and chemistry. I moved my engineering to Chemical Eng. As a transfer student to a world renowned university I had to take an all day ‘placement’ exam. I was told that exam would determine if I met the standards to stay in the Chem. Eng. curriculum. Came graduation time I was told I was missing a US civics/government course so I had to take a special 2-4 hour exam which I passed. My G.I. education was marked with tests for competency. I get brochures from my alma mater and it appears to me that education today in the sciences and related subjects are at a higher level than in my days.
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No, it actually has value.
I saw a large number of people who were told my Mommy and their teachers that they “should be an engineer.”
They knew nothing about electrical stuff. Had no real interest in electrical stuff. Had no savvy for electricity or electronics. Some were getting interested in computers back then, but computers and programming were such a small part of being an EE back then, it would never be enough to save you.
There’s few professions needing a higher IQ than being a EE. Most people simply cannot make the cut for the math requirement, and EE’s use more math than any other type of engineer. Once they grind you through the preliminary calc classes and get rid of the weak people, then they can finally get down to teaching you the math necessary for electrical engineering, which goes rather far beyond mere calculus.
Great story!
i didn’t see anything otu of line. if it motivates some people to study harder, then it is a good thing, eh?
Unfortunately, in my state they are trying to force out. One of the best doctors I know was pressure to retire by the attorney general. He eventually had to. He had no complaints or lawsuits against him.
I audited a class from a professor like that. I was really interested in the material (which was linear mathematics for ComSci’s).
It was about three weeks into the class. Things were starting to get pretty thick, as the pace was picking up, people were dropping out, and the classes were getting quiet. He asked “are there any questions on the material?” I looked around, saw no one else raising their hands, and I had a question. So I raised my hand, asked my question.
The professor then answered my question, which led me to another question. Asked and answered.
He then asked “Are there any other questions?”
No one said anything. No one moved to even bring out their materials or notebooks.
And he said something pretty similar to your example - “...with the exception of this person over here... what’s your name?” as he was pulling out his grade book. “You’re obviously the only one who read the material! I should make note of the fact you’re the only one who did the assignment or read the material!”
I told him my name... fearing what was about to happen. Flip, flip, flip... squint, looked up and down his roster...
“You’re not on my roster!”
“Well, um, ah, I’m auditing your class. is it OK if I sit in?”
Oh, the friends I didn’t make as he excoriated the people who were actually on the roster for not taking the effort of “the deadbeat who isn’t even paying for the class!”
I went to a big engineering school - and have heard that exact story.
-Either mutual friends or a story that has travelled around a good bit-
Apparently it’s a common thing.
I proctored a frosh final exam with about 400 people though. So it could easily have happened and happened several times.
fake but true
correctamundo
Not all you drop from pre-med do so because they can’t make it happen. Some do so because they find out they’re better suited temperamentally and ability-wise for some other occupation.
Heck, I’ve had interviews where the candidate couldn’t tell me how many 8ths of an inch were in an inch. I kid you not. I have asked candidates to show me 5/8ths on a ruler, and most could not.
My father in law runs a machine shop, where they make surgical instruments and repair them. He ONLY hires polish and German, because even Americans with a bachelors are clueless and have no work ethic.
He says it is becoming harder and harder to find hires, because Germany and Poland are paying the same scale currently and they don’t want to relocate to America.
This is true. I was never premed even though I was a chem major. I don’t like blood or guts. Yuk.
I know someone who dropped out of med school. Guy was in the top 10% of his class too. Decided one day in his 3rd year he didn’t really like it. So he quit. The school made him go through psych testing though to make sure. Don’t know what he’s doing right now, I need to googlestalk him to see what he’s up to.
What does he pay? It is all supply and demand, pay more and get better quality employee.
;-)
that’s what they did to us in law school, exactly that
One of the war documentaries on TV had a veteran who said that just before hitting the beach, the company commander said "Half of you guys are going to be killed or wounded." The vet said that everybody turned to the guy on his right and said "You poor basterd." He was talking about human nature telling you it's always the other guy.
Not surprising. It was difficult to find techie people 15 years ago. Can’t imagine what it’s like now.
I bet it was. What was it like back then?
I don’t remember much of it, even though high school for me was early 2000s. Those classes never made much of an impact on me. My grammar was made better when I started posting on here. Any way I’ve gotten better as far as intellect goes, I have this website to thank.
I was never really able to even grasp the textbook definitions of a noun, pronoun, verb, adverb, whatever. But I believe, as can be seen by my posts, that my lackluster education doesn’t really mean anything, in two ways.
Yes, it’s obviously bad, but I had a better education on here than I ever did in school.
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