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Need new Laptop should I stay with with Windows 7? (avoid Win 8)
9/10/13 | Me

Posted on 09/10/2013 7:24:03 AM PDT by Don@VB

I have seen several laptop models I like but they have Windows 8 installed. I need to stay with a Windows OS, but having read poor reviews, it appears Win 8 may become the next Vista. Is it that bad? I like Win 7 but it limits my selection. As always, any suggestions/input appreciated.


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1 posted on 09/10/2013 7:24:03 AM PDT by Don@VB
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To: Don@VB

I bought a new PC and I HATE the new version of IE


2 posted on 09/10/2013 7:25:21 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Don@VB

I’ve heard it’s actually quite good; it was only the initial interface was disliked by laptop users, and they are fixing that in 8.1 for free.


3 posted on 09/10/2013 7:25:44 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: WomBom

Why on earth would you use IE anyway?


4 posted on 09/10/2013 7:25:58 AM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Don@VB

stick with 7, our receptionist cried one time because it 8 was a mess. Back in December, the pc makers had 7 offered still on their sites but if you go to the retailers like Best Buy etc, every one of these clowns push W8 and ignore 7.


5 posted on 09/10/2013 7:28:47 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I remember buying Win2k but waiting over a year to install it. When I did, it turned out my video card was incompatible. However, it also turned out that it was on update version 2 which corrected that. I installed it and the update and used it for over a decade in that computer.

When building my own computers, I never buy the newest operating system. When buying a computer off the shelf, that stuff has been handled.


6 posted on 09/10/2013 7:28:54 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Don@VB

Mr. GG2 just bought a new laptop and he hates Windows 8.


7 posted on 09/10/2013 7:28:54 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ottbmare
Why on earth would you use IE anyway?

ahahah - that was MY first reaction -

8 posted on 09/10/2013 7:28:57 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: WomBom

I quit using IE years ago. Made the switch to Mozilla’s Firefox and have never looked back.


9 posted on 09/10/2013 7:29:27 AM PDT by Jim Ralls
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To: Don@VB

Win 8 made the laptop I bought in Dec a brick.

In June after trying to get functionality out of Win 8 for 6 months without much success, I bought my first Apple product, an IPad. Microsoft made me an Apple customer.

Without a doubt go with Win 7.


10 posted on 09/10/2013 7:29:41 AM PDT by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: Don@VB
My son built a desktop from the ground up and installed Win7 from his Dell laptop to the desktop. He's had not one problem with it. He gave me the Dell and I installed Win8. I like the increased security and the way it re-installs itself if necessary without damaging files. (Something went wrong with a USB port; reinstalling fixed it.)
11 posted on 09/10/2013 7:29:49 AM PDT by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Don@VB
I don't have much hands on experience with Win8 but based on what I've read the last two computers I built I put Win7 on them. Supposedly Win8 is pretty good once you get past the GUI, and the GUI is fixable, but Win7 has been all I need in a home computer so I see no need to change. Win7 is getting harder to find. The last computer I built was a media computer for a church. I bought a new copy of Win7 off of Ebay for that one.
12 posted on 09/10/2013 7:30:37 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Don@VB

avoid it like the plague


13 posted on 09/10/2013 7:33:03 AM PDT by SERE_DOC ( “The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.” TJ.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I just recall that it wasn’t well received on its roll out. I got burned with Vista and hope to avoid a similar situation.


14 posted on 09/10/2013 7:33:47 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: Don@VB

I have Windows 8 on my wife’s tablet and a laptop. Realize that the Windows 7 desktop is in Windows 8. The only real difference is the start menu being changed to that tile page. They have some very good apps, so it’s not bad, just different. Since Win 8 set up to have relatively uniform functionality across platforms (most of which are touch screen), getting use to one, two, and three finger operations on a laptop finger pad took some getting used to, but now that I know the gestures, it’s actually quite nice.


15 posted on 09/10/2013 7:34:00 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Don@VB

Win 8.1 is supposed to be released in October. It is supposed to be more like Win7.

I have read that upgrading from 8 to 8.1 is not a smooth process.

Some companies are offering laptops with both Win7 and Win8.

I just started with Win7 last year. I still prefer XP, but it is old technology. Win7 handles much more memory, etc. Web pages got slower and slower to load on the XP because of all the graphics. I am okay with Win7 now, but it still has some ‘features’ that drive me up the wall.


16 posted on 09/10/2013 7:34:07 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Don@VB

Get the W8 version and try it!

If you don’t like it (you won’t) you can PAY EXTRA to get an ‘upgrade’ that will allow you to PAY EXTRA to purchase a copy of Windows 7


17 posted on 09/10/2013 7:34:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Don@VB

I’m not familiar with Windows 8, but I just installed 64-bit Windows 7 on my desktop, which had been running XP, and I’m quite impressed by the increase in speed and responsiveness.


18 posted on 09/10/2013 7:35:10 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yeah, not sure I need to replace the PC... Sorry I did now


19 posted on 09/10/2013 7:35:16 AM PDT by WomBom ("I read Free Republic for the pictures")
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To: Don@VB

We just bought a new Acer Laptop with Windows 7

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834314104&nm_mc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel&cm_mmc=TEMC-RMA-Approvel-_-Content-_-text-_-

and are very happy with it. Got it 2 days with standard shipping. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.


20 posted on 09/10/2013 7:36:03 AM PDT by McGruff (Strange times are these in which we live..)
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To: Don@VB

I bought a refurbished MacBook online six months ago and haven’t looked back. It cost about $600 and I added a new battery for about $75. I download software upgrades online. It just out performs any of the many PCs I’ve owned, works with my inkjet printer and apps are cheap or free. I’ll never own a windows device again.

To each his own.


21 posted on 09/10/2013 7:37:30 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: MtBaldy

MicroCenter is giving PCs away and they all seem to come with 8 now. I bought one such a couple o months ago and am pleasantly surprised, more or less. Win 8 isn’t that hard to work around and the machine is much faster than computers I was buying two years ago, the main complaint is the chess game being missing. This is an HP refurb, 6 gb memory, 1T hard drive, and an I3 chip for just under $300.


22 posted on 09/10/2013 7:38:21 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Don@VB

As a general rule, Microsoft’s operating systems always push the edge of the newest machines’ memory and processing power, but manufacturers always put the latest version of Windows on their machines. The result is that the operating system takes far too many resources for many of the machines it initially runs on.

Windows 7 was largely Windows Vista made more scalable, and sold on machines which had become more powerful.

So my advice: If you’re buying a top-of-the-line computer with the absolutely newest motherboard/CPU and stacked to the gills with memory, buy Windows 8. If your computer did not cost more than an electric car, stick with Windows 7.


23 posted on 09/10/2013 7:38:36 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Don@VB

If I buy one installed with Win 8, is it a big deal to have someone install Win 7 in its place?


24 posted on 09/10/2013 7:38:36 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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To: Don@VB

I just went through the same thing, only with a new desktop. Not only does W8 get bad reviews, but the primary issue is that W8 is a touch screen system - great (I suppose) for tablets, perhaps workable for laptops, but lousy for desktops.


25 posted on 09/10/2013 7:40:05 AM PDT by relentlessly
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To: Don@VB

Windows 8 is absurd on a non touch machine. It is just crummy on a touch screen system.

With IE 10 you have an F12 function that allows you to regress back to previous IE version emulations. Which is good because millions of web sites have active-X still running on them and IE 10 does not support it.

It is like Microsoft decided that they had been using a steering wheel to drive their OS for years and thought it was sensible to take the wheel out and install foot pedal steering without taking in to consideration the people steering things.

I would much rather be using an Apple machine or a Linux box instead of Windows 8.


26 posted on 09/10/2013 7:40:50 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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To: Don@VB

No, but that’d be like buying a car with Perrerri tires, and taking them off to drive around on Nexen tires. If you’re buying a 2003 Accord, find one without Perrerri tires.


27 posted on 09/10/2013 7:41:04 AM PDT by dangus
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To: isthisnickcool

>> I would much rather be using an Apple machine or a Linux box instead of Windows 8. <<

Recommending a Linux box to a Windows user without a CS degree is ridiculous.


28 posted on 09/10/2013 7:42:37 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Don@VB
Windows 8 works fine for me. I installed a freeware (totally free, not a trial) program called Classic Shell. This allows you to bring back the windows start button like in xp/win7.

Change brings fear. But don't fear. If you can use any version of windows, you can learn to use Windows8. Windows 8 has some real advantages in speed, security, functionality.

29 posted on 09/10/2013 7:44:08 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Jim Ralls
Made the switch to Mozilla’s Firefox and have never looked back.
same here...used IE; an couple days/one week...
..there was so much B.S. on it.

30 posted on 09/10/2013 7:45:56 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: SERE_DOC

Ditto that! Get Windows 7 while you still can. Windows 8 is a nightmare that was developed for tablets.


31 posted on 09/10/2013 7:46:05 AM PDT by toolman1401
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To: Don@VB

Definitely go with Windows 7. I recently rebuilt my desktop and went with Windows 7, a worthy successor to the venerable Windows XP. My brother-in-law bought a new laptop with Windows 8 and I had a tough time even installing a free anti-virus program. With Windows 8 pretty much everything you were familiar with has changed. The touch screen features are not at all intuitive like on the Apple I-pad.


32 posted on 09/10/2013 7:46:41 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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I didn’t like Windows 8. Windows 7 works perfectly fine (all Microsoft hate, government spying caveats apply)


33 posted on 09/10/2013 7:47:52 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Government: Slimy used car salesmen writing laws forcing you to buy their cars)
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To: Don@VB

Windows 8 really isn’t that far removed from Windows 7.

Here are a couple of things you can do to make the user experience a bit more palatable. Metro is the first issue - the active tiles at start-up. Download and install a copy of Classic Shell. It’s a free download (if you like what it has done for you give the developer a donation) and will allow you to set up the desktop with a Win7, Win XP or Win 2K look/feel.

The next thing that everybody seems to complain about is the Charm at at the right side of the screen. You can turn that off using Classic Shell also. In some instances you will also have to adjust Mouse parameters to turn off the active corners.

Play with Classic Shell a bit and you can make the GUI look just like Windows 7.


34 posted on 09/10/2013 7:48:51 AM PDT by JoeVet (First rule of holes ... when you find yourself standing in one - stop digging ... unless ur a Dim)
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To: Don@VB

Hate to say it, but get an Apple.


35 posted on 09/10/2013 7:51:08 AM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: varmintman
the main complaint is the chess game being missing

When I bought a laptop and desktop that had Win7, one of the things I didn't like was the Win7 card games.

With a few tweaks, I managed to get the XP Spider, XP Freecell, XP Hearts and XP Solitaire to work on Win7.

I had a similar problem loading an old version of MS Frontpage. I wanted it just for the frontpage editor. Win7 would not accept an 'install', so I copied the FP directory and a some dll's and got it to run on Win7.

The old MS Publisher 98 will run on Win7, but the templates won't work. I don't want to buy the latest 'Office' because I don't use it enough to justify the cost.


36 posted on 09/10/2013 7:52:14 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: The Great RJ
My brother-in-law bought a new laptop with Windows 8 and I had a tough time even installing a free anti-virus program.

That because win8 has its own built in antivirus/antimalware built in. Its what microsoft does. they increase funtionality in the operating system. You can add a 3rd party firewall to later versions of windows, too. But why ? (And it will be a bitch to setup)

37 posted on 09/10/2013 7:52:54 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Don@VB

Windows 8 works great, and 8.1 is coming out shortly (next month).


38 posted on 09/10/2013 7:54:03 AM PDT by TexasGunLover ("Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists."-- President George W. Bush)
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To: varmintman

Glad you’re enjoying Win8. The chess game is easily fixable. Go to www.chessclub.com and download their client “Dasher”. It comes with a high quality chess engine (Stockfish) and a good interface. You don’t have to join ICC to use the chess engine. If you like chess you might want to join though.


39 posted on 09/10/2013 7:54:04 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Don@VB

I bought new laptop last week. It has Windows 8 on it. It’s okay. Didn’t take to long to get used to it. Does have the “convenience” panes that slide in and out when you mouse to a corner of the screen. I hate that. Enough people are complaining that I’m sure MS will release a patch that will enable those to be disabled at some point. Other than that.... I like it pretty well.


40 posted on 09/10/2013 7:56:01 AM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: Don@VB
My new laptop has Win 8.

I like it. Just took some getting used to and I'm a person who hates change. As another said. "It's good, just different".

41 posted on 09/10/2013 7:56:51 AM PDT by Texan
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To: quimby
Change brings fear. But don't fear.

"We have nothing to fear, but fear itself."

And the fact that the next upgrade can create more problems than it fixes. That happens with Firefox, Adobe Flash, Java, Windows, etc.

I still cringe ever time I see 'upgrade' or 'update', as I wonder what that one is going to break. [And I have been doing updates and upgrades since the mid 1980s.]
42 posted on 09/10/2013 7:58:39 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Don@VB

The trick to making windows 8 usefull is installing “Classic Shell” it is available for free at sourceforge. This is a very important install. You will hate windows 8 without it.


43 posted on 09/10/2013 7:59:38 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: TomGuy

I like the Intel I5 processor, but so many laptops have AMD. Does AMD have a processor that is on par with the I5??


44 posted on 09/10/2013 8:02:25 AM PDT by Don@VB (Power Corrupts)
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We’ve been using Win 8 at work for about a year. It works great. There is a desktop which is almost exactly like Win 7. Win 8.1 will give you back the Start menu so you never have to use the Metro interface if you don’t want to. I think all the nay-sayers here are Apple fan-boys just trying to bad mouth Microsoft. Take some time... learn the product. There are lots of Metro apps that give you tips and shortcuts for using Win 8.


45 posted on 09/10/2013 8:05:20 AM PDT by BruCru (I think, therefore I am conservative!)
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To: TomGuy

Can’t wait to hear the screams and howls when apple releases IOS7 for ipad/iphone next month.


46 posted on 09/10/2013 8:05:22 AM PDT by quimby
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To: Don@VB

Comparisons for Intel and AMD

https://kb.wisc.edu/showroom/page.php?id=4927


47 posted on 09/10/2013 8:07:57 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: Don@VB

see if Dell has a system with windows 7 pro. bought an all in one with eight, had someone remove 8 and reinstall 7 pro. system in now perfect


48 posted on 09/10/2013 8:10:47 AM PDT by akinbaja
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To: Don@VB

If Win 8 is installed then yeah buy that computer. imo many problems in the past are with those computers that get upgraded to a new OS.

...btw the best computer we’ve ever owned came with Vista and I go back to the days of DOS.

We have always used firefox for going on line.


49 posted on 09/10/2013 8:11:12 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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Win 8 doesn’t make any sense without touchscreen. Consider that when buying a new laptop with Win 8. Even though you can run it in classic mode, and get programs to make it like Win 7, you would probably never be as happy with it as you are with Win 7 or XP.


50 posted on 09/10/2013 8:11:13 AM PDT by pallis
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