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Scientists discover bizarre creature with mechanical gears on legs
Christian Science Monitor ^
| September 13, 2013
| Tanya Lewis
Posted on 09/14/2013 2:03:26 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Evolution has been camshafted
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posted on
09/14/2013 3:54:33 PM PDT
by
bunkerhill7
(("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.))
To: Yardstick
But, the reaper isn’t (entirely) random. There doesn’t need to be an outside scorekeeper to see who “wins” - the cold-blooded Law of Survival is, by itself, enough.
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posted on
09/14/2013 4:21:08 PM PDT
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: coloradan
but randomly exchanging (instructions for) piece parts,
and you continued to do this over a few billion years,
with many trillions of candidate organisms all the time,
do you think you might possibly be surprised at
discovering what works?here's good read..the Blind Watchmaker; postulated precisely that...
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posted on
09/14/2013 5:08:20 PM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
To: coloradan
If you killed everything that didnt work and allowed those that did to reproduce, but randomly exchanging (instructions for) piece parts, and you continued to do this over a few billion years, with many trillions of candidate organisms all the time, do you think you might possibly be surprised at discovering what works?Would that not violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics: Entropy ?
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posted on
09/14/2013 5:31:41 PM PDT
by
Popman
(Liberal wars are about killing people for humanitarian reasons...)
To: Popman
No, entropy gets a lot worse where there are life forms mussing things up than when there aren’t. So, the Second Law is on our side.
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posted on
09/14/2013 10:11:31 PM PDT
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: Popman
Would that not violate the Second Law of Thermodynamics: Entropy ? Entropy only works in a closed system.
The universe has not been shown to be a closed system.
Local spacetime coordinates apparently act as a closed system, but their closure is not defined by any known mechanism, and so remains undefined. In a sense, everything around us acts like it's sealed off, but we don't know why, or what's sealing it off.
Thus, scientifically speaking, it's not a matter of evolution versus creation, but some sort of combination of both - in other words, evolution may well be one particular mechanism of creation, under certain circumstances.
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posted on
09/14/2013 11:31:58 PM PDT
by
Talisker
(One who commands, must obey.)
To: coloradan
What I’m saying is that the law of survival didn’t come about randomly.
To: Yardstick
You require an external agent to ensure that a maladapted organism, say, unable to carry oxygen in its blood, or lacking a protective layer, or exceptionally brightly colored and therefore loudly advertised to its predators, or jumping in circles because its legs aren’t synchronized, is to be killed?
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posted on
09/15/2013 5:53:22 AM PDT
by
coloradan
(The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
To: coloradan
No, I require an external agent to design a system that does all of that. I don’t think systems capable of evolving complex designs come about on their own.
To: Yardstick
I believe in natural selection and the altering of species. I do not believe one species “evolves” into another species. New species suddenly “appear” (their own words) no crossover fossils are ever found.
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posted on
09/15/2013 6:23:28 AM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: central_va
I’m pretty agnostic on the particulars of how new species come about. I just know (or am strongly convinced) that there’s a creative intelligence involved.
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