Posted on 09/21/2013 3:22:22 PM PDT by virgil283
“So, how is the Garand different than an M-16?”
If someone is shooting at you with an M-16 fins a big tree and hide behind it, If they’re shooting a Garand that won’t work.
Detachable magazines are one difference, and the much smaller caliber of the 16 is another. But the most major difference is that the M-1 uses a piston like pretty much all other semiauto rifles while the Stoner rifles including the 16 have exhaust gas blowing directly onto the bolt carrier from a tube. The 16 is thus much dirtier than other semiauto rifles.
If I had a group of newbies with minimal training and loads of available ammo, I train them to only fire a M16 in auto when you know the bad guy was 10 feet or less. Otherwise 3 shot select for suppression fire. Would also select if in jungle or occluded fire zones.
If I had a group who had enough experience to actually aim, M14 all the way. The heavier load gives the experienced more confidence and that reflects in better results. There is a lot of psychology built into expectations and the Garand and its children have it in spades.
FYI: The M1 Carbine is not what we are talking about here, totally different weapon!
My father served in the Marines in the late 50s early 60s, and agrees with you. He's in his 70s now, but still puts rounds through one (civilian), though he really prefers to shoot his Remington 1911 R1. I'm hoping to inherit both when the inevitable, sad day comes.
I love my little .30 caliber M1 carbine - fun as hell knocking over bowling pins on the range.
And then there's 7.62x51, alias 7.62 NATO (used in M-14, FN-FAL, and other NATO rifles), alias .308 Winchester in civilian rifles.
Ahhh yes, the good old days when a “clip” was actually a clip!
Love the Garand. Love its offspring, the M-14 even more!
A Garand uses a handsomely finished natural hardwood stock whereas the M-16 uses plastic that is colored black like the evil oil it is made of.
A Garand does not have an evil high capacity detachable magazine like the M-16 does.
A Garand does not have an evil handgrip like the M-16 does.
A Garand does not have an evil flash hider/muzzle brake like the M-16 does.
My dad’s cure for the M1 thumb was that he carried the BAR!
Note that the strap on the AR-15 is not correctly installed. The center gun is my new SOCOM 16, an M-14 (or M1A) derivative with a 16.25 inch barrel. I bought the wood stock for it about a week after I got the gun. It looks very nice in wood.
The Garand on the right was used in Korea. My friends and I all bought one when they were incredibly cheap (like under $300 if I recall correctly, long time ago). Mine's been re-barreled, glass-bedded, I finished a new stock, it has match sights and a match trigger. It's very accurate.
The AR on the left is a Clinton-era Bushmaster AR with match trigger and the chrome-lined bull barrel. It's very accurate, especially if the sling is installed properly and used! :-)
I joined the Army after completing high school and the first rifle they gave me was a M14. I admit that I was disappointed that I didn't get a M1 but the M14 is vastly superior due to the magazine which can hold much more than the M1 clip.
Even today the m14 is much better than the m16 for certain tasks. Marine Corp snipers often use them due to their greater range and accuracy.
very nice. I wanted an M1A BUT I opted for the Armalite AR10T instead. I just took it out this week and put about 100 rounds through it. Even with mediocre ammo, I was around 1 moa. I’m looking forward to improving the reloads. I’m sure I’ll have it down to .5 moa once it’s tuned in.
Any newer military and many civilian weapons would be considered a great improvement over the M1, but during WWII the M1 was the best rifle for the regular troops.
Yep, I fully learned that in high school.
Nice shooting, RC One. I think the SOCOM can do that, but not necessarily in my hands. I’m a little rusty.
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