Restore The Fourth

Self | 10/24/2013 | USConservative

[usconservative]

This evening as I departed Downtown Chicago to catch my train home to the far, far, far Southwest Suburbs I came across a group of folks holding signs that read "1789 Not 1984!" as I approached Union Station.

Knowing what it meant, I yelled out "LOVE YOUR SIGN!!" A few of the folks holding those signs approached me to chat and asked "you know what it means?" I said "hell yes, fourth amendment!"

That was met with a few smiles and exchanges of cards.

I had no idea this group even existed until today but have to say, I'm thrilled that they do! As soon as I got home I looked them up and found their facebook page. Apparently they have a chapter (small but vocal) here in the Chicago area and are building their nationwide presence.

[usconservative]

So my question to FR is: Anyone else heard of this group? Are they something FR can rally behind and support? Granted, I had less than a few minutes to chat with them today and they're mostly a young group, at least the group I met was. They appeared to be in their mid to late 20's, all clean cut, presented themselves well and behaved like ladies and gentlemen.

They're having a rally Saturday in Federal Plaza, downtown Chicago Saturday and I'm thinking about just going and lurking/observing them.

Their main website is RestoreTheFourth and their facebook page for their Chicagoland chapter is Restore The Fourth Chicago

Any Chicagoland freepers want to join in observing or have any intel on them?

[JoeFromSidney]

Some time back the Engineers Club hosted a speech by the local Federal judge. Afterwards he was asked about the Fourth Amendment. His response was that it was still there between the Third and the Fifth, but the Supreme Court had effectively repealed it. I agree, it's time to get it back.

[Jacquerie]

James Madison wasn’t all that impressed with bills of rights. He called them “parchment barriers.”

[Liberty Valance]

AMENDMENT IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Excellence]

I’d like to get back the 4th.

[Cincinnatus.45-70]

I had not heard of them, but they are less controversial than I would have guessed. I associate 1789 with the storming of the Bastille and the pulling down of the elites. I certainly wouldn’t be in favor of THAT!

[jobim]

And here in Hawaii we associate 1789 with the death of Captain Cooke here on the Big island, and the beginning of western civilization and Christianity here.

[JoeFromSidney]

James Madison wasn’t all that impressed with bills of rights. He called them “parchment barriers.”

In a sense he was right. The constitution is not self-executing. Moreover, I sympathize with the objection that there is no need to forbid the government from doing something that it was granted no power to do in the first place.

Nevertheless, the Bill of Rights exists, and it's up to us to make the most of it.

[Jacquerie]

Agree. They are still there to remind us of what is lost.

Madison came to see the senate of the states, vertical division of power as a far better defender of freedom than bills of rights. He was right. The 17th Amendment was an incredible mistake.