Roger Stone: ‘Nixon thought LBJ killed Kennedy’

The Daily Caller ^ | November 22, 2013 | Patrick Howley

[Repeal 16-17]

We will never have definitive proof of whether LBJ was a conspirator in the Kennedy assassination. IMO, I believe he was. I believe that on November 22, 1963, a coup took place in this country.

[SisterK]

Didn’t Ladybird Johnson’s family handle logistics in Vietnam?

[Vermont Lt]

Ruby lived for several years, dying of cancer while in prison in 1967.

[marron]

Halliburton. Brown & Root.

[BeadCounter]

HSCA surely wasn’t so crooked that they’d give Lyndon and others a pass on this. Blakey does say the CIA did not give HSCA all the information they could have.

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I got put down worse just for saying it doesn’t mean “Conspiracy Nuts” when currently, over 60% of the nation believes it was a conspiracy and James Tague who got a cut on the cheek that day from a bit of flying concrete that hit him when the curb was hit by a bullet or ricocheted believes in conspiracy, he has just come out with a book.

There is furthermore, much testimony that shows a lot of the witnesses thought something was happening on the ground in places other than the TSBD.

[Ransomed]

It was a suicide. The Giant Lizard People just muddied the waters.

It’s the only thing that makes sense.

Freegards

[dragnet2]

Some personal history...

My Pop was very involved in the Monroe death investigation. In fact, I have some interesting memorabilia in regards to that event.

He's on the right, looking directly at Kennedy during the 1960 Democratic Convention in LA. His job was to provide inner ring security for high profile dignitaries, from all over the globe.

Him and his close partners, like the one looking directly at the camera, seemed to be everywhere and always seemed close to the major historical events of the day. It pretty much blew me away.

[untwist]

Mr. 2ndDivisionVet I have read your views on different topics and you certainly have credibility and deserve respect. For many years I was open to and leaning to belief in a conspiracy in the JFK assassination. I remember the Blakey committee, I remember the first time the Zapruder film was aired by Geraldo on his ABC show nearly 40 years ago, I remember the 5 part documentary ‘The Men Who Killed Kennedy’ on Discovery 20+ years ago, and story of the mob lawyer Ragano who claimed Santo Trafficante confessed to the assassination on his deathbed years ago, and countless other theories. I just saw a couple weeks ago on NatGeo a new theory that a Secret Service mistakenly blew the president’s brains out during the frantic commotion after Kennedy was first hit.

I understand and respect your doubts. After all these many years, this is the most examined crime in American history. In spite of all the many theories, The Warren Commission report still fundamentally holds up. Former President Gerald Ford was on that commission and rose to become president himself. Never once in the 45 years he lived after the assassination did Gerald Ford ever waver from his endorsement of that commission’s findings. Nobody else could possibly have been in a position to know and conceal facts that support any different conclusion. He became president himself, and if he knew and covered up facts that he surely would become privy to, then President Ford would also be complicit in the cover-up and conspiracy. Also I checked out the Gerald Posner book on the subject about 20 years ago and his conclusions also hold up very well.

Having said that, skepticism is good and you are worthy of respect, not derision. After all these years I believe strongly that Kennedy was killed by a crazed, young Communist loser. Hard to believe today that a 24 year old punk could pull that off, but things were different then.

Having said that, LBJ was an odious narcissist who would do anything to force his ambitions. It is very reasonable to suspect him. He created the Great Society disaster to buy the love of the Left, and thought he was so smart and powerful and heroic he could win Viet Nam through his own skills of intimidation and abuse of power. He is truly a tragic figure and a failure. Still, in spite of his shortcomings, I believe President Ford and believe Oswald did it all by himself. It would take an awful lot of hard evidence and corroboration to discredit that and after 50 years and an awful lot of investigation and analysis I just don’t see it.

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

“It’s been fifty years for Pete’s sake!”

If I remember correctly, the records were sealed for 75 years.

[BeadCounter]

Your profile is informative, I will pray. Thank you for your post.

[BeadCounter]

I think I heard something like 2037 which would be about 25 years from now. I guess the one year fudge factor here is that the Warren Report came out in Sept. 1964. So 2038, something like this.

[SisterK]

Thank you.

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

“He was saying JFK got us into Vietnam.”

The truth is that President Eisenhower originally got us into Vietnam. JFK was merely following-up on Eisenhower’s policy.

[BeadCounter]

I know what you are saying is technically true. Maybe a better choice of words would be to say JFK “escalated” (if so that is) the US’s presence in Vietnam.

“... President Eisenhower sent some 700 military personnel as well military and economic aid to the government of South Vietnam. This effort was foundering when John F. Kennedy became president.

In May 1961, JFK authorized sendingan additional 500 Special Forces troops and military advisersto assist the pro-Western government of South Vietnam. By the end of 1962, there were approximately 11,500 military advisers in South Vietnam; that year, 52 soldiers had been killed.
The president would soon send additional military advisers to support the South Vietnamese Army. By the end of 1963, the numbers had risen to 16,000.

http://www.jfklibrary.org/Education/Teachers/Curricular-Resources/~/media/assets/Education%20and%20Public%20Programs/Education/Lesson%20Plans/Vietnam%20Lesson%20Plan.pdf

[spel_grammer_an_punct_polise]

“I know what you are saying is technically true.”

I was in either junior high or early high school when I heard a speech by Eisenhower stating that those who opposed his support of South Vietnam should consider bauxite. Apparently, South Vietnam is/was rich in bauxite which is critical to making aluminum.

I remember that speech as if it was yesterday. ;-)

[MUDDOG]

You’re thinking of Sea-Land. It did a lot of shipping to Vietnam during the war, and LadyBird has been alleged to be connected with it, but as far as I know, she wasn’t.

[PA Engineer]

This crap is beyond sick and disseminating this sickness further is a disgrace and does not speak highly of you at all.

Why? I suggest you watch the film of lBJ on AF1 prior to taking the oath of office. Everyone I know that has watched it were deeply disturbed afterwards.

[BeadCounter]

I saw Spiro Agnew come to speak when he was the veep at the courthouse lawn in Roswell, New Mexico, earlier time, everyone in town was there. Secret Service, Security were everywhere and I mean everywhere, on the tops of stores, the office building nearby must have been thoroughly checked, I don’t know if they’d allow people to even be in their offices at that time. Security Presence was very clear. Comparing the two, obviously security in Dallas seems like it was nothing. Nothing was left to chance and this was only the Vice President. Thousands of people were at the event I was at.

[BeadCounter]

This is just a historic note: I heard one source say actually LBJ did not even have to be sworn in again. His swearing-in as Vice President somehow fulfilled his being President should something like this happen. Also, the Bible that was used in 1963 is missing, something like that would go into the National Archives or somewhere like that.

[dfwgator]

Something I hadn’t realized until today was that there was no Vice President, until LBJ was elected and was inaugurated in 1965, when Humphrey became VP.