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To: Kip Russell
Cher has always been impressive. FWIW, back in the 1960s, my mom didn't agree with any of the new attitudes going on. But that Sonny and Cher show? She loved the way Cher didn't take anything from Sonny and never hid or showed embarrassment about her heritage. (or anything else)

She's a native American. Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

7 posted on 11/28/2013 12:50:12 PM PST by grania
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To: grania

Pretty sure Cher’s Armenian, not American Indian.


10 posted on 11/28/2013 12:53:47 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: grania
Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

Yeah, it was all unicorns and rainbows for native Americans before the white scourge arrived.

It's not like they raped, killed, tortured, and ate each other before we got here or anything.

25 posted on 11/28/2013 1:01:28 PM PST by Washi
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To: grania

She’s Armenian.


28 posted on 11/28/2013 1:02:32 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: grania
She's a native American. Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

She's only a small part Indian. I wonder why she never talks about her majority European heritage.

The Indians weren't saintly. They were stealing each others' land well before we arrived on the scene.

Now many of them live a life of prosperity unimagined before because of the Europeans who settled here and established freedom under the Constitution.

38 posted on 11/28/2013 1:07:18 PM PST by what's up
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To: grania
She's a native American. Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

Even if Europeans had never come to North America, the idyllic aboriginal lifestyle of the Native Americans was doomed.

It may have taken another hundred years, but eventually, internal wars or invasion by other foreign populations would have forced change upon them - almost none of it good.

I'm about a third Native American myself, and my birth certificate says that I'm negro, but I don't sit and ponder the worst aspects of this culture and its history on every national holiday. In fact, I've led a pretty good life, compared to what it might have been, had my white ancestors never set foot upon this continent.

46 posted on 11/28/2013 1:11:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: grania

“Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?”

That’s retarded and flies in the face of the meaning of thanksgiving. Why would an Indian mourn Thanksgiving? That makes no sense.


54 posted on 11/28/2013 1:17:05 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: grania

Well, for openers, it was the paleface who rescued them from their squalor by teaching them about casinos. If it weren’t for slot machines, they’d still be sitting in the dirt.


55 posted on 11/28/2013 1:17:40 PM PST by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: grania
Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans.

Please. This whole premise is absurd. Thanksgiving is a day of giving thanks to God. Who is so wretched and depraved that they can't find something to be thankful for. Oh, and it has nothing at all to do with Indians. They can be thankful too if they want to but if they don't, fine. Their privilege in a free country.

59 posted on 11/28/2013 1:21:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: grania
She should consider how Indian life would have been if the Spanish had expanded north from Florida.
91 posted on 11/28/2013 2:02:32 PM PST by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: grania
Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

Well, right now I'm sitting in the living room of my son-in-law's house, after finishing a Thanksgiving dinner. He's a full-blooded Indian, and he seemed to be enjoying the turkey. The house is full of grandchildren, cousins, an uncle and an aunt, as well as my wife and I. He's living a lot better than any of his ancestors ever did.

104 posted on 11/28/2013 2:21:26 PM PST by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon.)
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To: grania
"be anything else"

Oh, I don't know..maybe grateful changing from a primitive hunter-gatherer kind of life into modern civilization? Like every other hunter-gather society in the history of mankind.

117 posted on 11/28/2013 3:38:07 PM PST by driftless2
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To: grania

She’s Armenian.


147 posted on 11/28/2013 7:51:58 PM PST by windcliff
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To: grania
She's a native American.

IIRC, she's a Lebanese Arab.

Why should Thanksgiving be anything but a day of mourning for native Americans?

So they wouldn't still be living in rough housing, eating their dogs and wondering WTF the wheel could possibly be used for?

151 posted on 11/29/2013 7:22:38 AM PST by metesky (Brethren, leave us go amongst them! - Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond, The Searchers)
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