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To: Kartographer

Long-term SHTF rifle caliber choices Ping.


2 posted on 12/10/2013 7:25:46 AM PST by Carriage Hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

.308 and 22lr


5 posted on 12/10/2013 7:28:48 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: carriage_hill

5.45 x 39 ... or a well equipped .22lr with a wide assortment of ammo velocities. I like the 60 grain Aguila for in close and personal work out of shorter barrels ... that tumbling projectile makes nice ragged holes and would hurt like hell, especially with three or four in a tight grouping.


61 posted on 12/10/2013 8:16:54 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: carriage_hill
If you were to have 1 SHTF weapon get a AR chambered for the .223/5.56.

Why? - You can buy plenty of factory ammo now. You can find all the reloading supplies you need (you can't find re loadable cases for the 7.62x39 Russian, if you can they are expensive, you are limited to cheap steel cases that can not be reloaded). You can carry 1200 rounds on your person (try carrying 1200 7.62x51 rounds). ARs chambered in .223 are a accurate as any bolt gun. The .223 Remington is a deadly round (loaded with the right bullet-powder combo you can kill deer and 2 legged game just fine with it, the 22LR just does not cut it as a self defense round). You will be able to find parts and people to help you with it for years to come.

I think every able bodied citizen should own an AR.

You and everyone else that shoots should take up hand loading your own ammo. It will take the cost of your 280 Remington shells from $1.25 each down to 50 cents per round. Get a press, dies, digital powder scale, automated case prep center, case trimmer with electric motor (1K investment) and you will be able to reload your own ammo for the rest of your life.

This is the best advice posted so far on this thread.

82 posted on 12/10/2013 9:03:52 AM PST by 30 Govt.
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To: carriage_hill

You should have 2

.22LR and .308.

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89 posted on 12/10/2013 9:56:55 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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