You are correct. This Thomas fellow should never have been on the street.
As another poster pointed out, the OC Weekly is one of those free rags with lefties writing their articles. The mainstream press isn’t much better.
Thomas was in no way some sort of harmless poor soul. He was one of the scary mean homeless/mentally illl. I live in SoCal so I’ve heard local coverage And details for over a year now.
He fought these cops long and hard. Apparently early on in the fight he he landed a solid hard one in the face of one of the officers. I always figured that caused his predicament. I figure the cop stepped it up a bit and had less concern over hurting him after that.
Doesn’t mean I am saying he deserved to die.
I do not think the cops ever intended him to die.
It’s a shame all the way around.
I do not like the parents grandstanding. Why were they letting their son on the street like that? Because they could not control him, nor deal with his violence. So they think the cops will have no problem with him?
It is difficult in that 1) a dangerous person like this should not be on the streets. He was violent and committed crimes. He was breaking in to cars which is what cause this incident. The cops have to deal with him and that is not an easy task. 2) The general public should not need to be subjected to the presence of psychotic potentially violent men in public spaces.
The cops had to deal with him. He is a danger and usually these dangerous men are given freedom because they arent necessarily committing any crime at a given time. In this case he was committing crimes and fought the police when confronted he did not fight back, he instigated the fight.
There’s no good answer for what should happen. Personally I think the cops should not be convicted of a crime, but should no longer be police.
Do the parents have blame? Maybe. If they want to use this for soapboxing, then it is fair to blame them for then not keeping the general public from their son. They can’t have it both ways.
Then put handcuffs on him and arrest him and take him to jail and indict him.
You don't beat him to death.
The kid wasn't the danger on the street -- he was harmless.
The cop who killed him was/is the one with the really dangerous mental illness. He was a bomb ready to explode and odds are that he has more incidents like this in his past.
Not sure where you got your information, but it's not accurate. . 1st off, Thomas wasn't breaking into cars, that was an allegation made by a ‘Slidebar’ restaurant employee, at the prompting of her boss, Jeremy Popoff. Thomas was a nuisance hanging around the bar, but he wasn't violent. He was picking up cigarette butts to smoke. . It was the Slidebars call to police that set off this chain of events.
The lengths some people will go to in order to excuse a group of pigs beating a man to death. Go take a look at the pictures of his corpse and try feeding us that bulls**t about them not meaning to kill him again. Maybe they could have stopped clubbing him, oh I don’t know... sometime after he was beaten unconscious. Poor scared squad of little piggies all frightened by one small but very scary homeless guy.
-photos please. Or it didn't happen. Here's the only photo of injuries on police officers in the fatal beating of Kelly Thomas. A skinned elbow on Officer Ramos. Wow. You want to claim Thomas hit Ramos on the elbow?
http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://www.pixiq.com/sites/default/files/ramos_2.jpg&size=400x1000
However, the Left wants to overthrow the established order, including police departments. In any Communist revolution, or for that matter, nationalist or Islamist revolution, the new regime disbands the police agencies of the overthrown government and sets up a new police authority with their own people. Prior to the revolution, the leftist press denigrates abuses, real or imagined, by the existing regime's police, for instance, those of the Tsarist Okhrana before the Bolshevik Revolution. In some cases, the Left will themselves instigate actions to cast aspersions on the old order. For example, Communists disguised as Polish nationalists instigated anti-Jewish pogroms in the aftermath of World War II to smear the anti-Communist opposition.
Beyond the issue of this police abuse in California, the long term goal of the Left worldwide is the destruction of the existing order in capitalist, democratic nations. The abusive policemen are useful idiots toward this end.