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'Duck Dynasty' backlash spotlights an uneasy reality in TV industry
LA Times ^ | December 20, 2013, 5:00 a.m. | Scott Collins

Posted on 12/20/2013 11:05:43 AM PST by BenLurkin

But the particular problem for the TV industry is that it's trying to profit off the same cultural tensions it's exploiting. That inevitably leads to problems such as the current one engulfing "Duck Dynasty."

The reality programming trend in recent years has made stars out of everyone from bakers to pawnbrokers to catfish-wranglers. That these "authentic" people have opinions and values that don't always jibe with those of the media elite in New York and Los Angeles isn't necessarily surprising.

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But it means that the executives and PR handlers have had to get very good at backpedaling away from uncomfortable realities. That's most likely what is happening now on "Duck Dynasty."

"A&E has been very careful in editing and presenting this family, being careful not to show any potential controversial views," said Robert J. Thompson, professor of television and popular culture at Syracuse University. "But they can't control what they say outside of the show."

"Channels like A&E program 'regular' people mostly to make curiosities out of them," said Jeffrey McCall, a media studies professor at DePauw University. "The programmers want to manage every aspect of their 'reality' commodities, but that isn't really possible.

"If A&E wants the Robertsons to make money for the channel by being authentic, then at some point A&E has to accept that reality stars will be real human beings," McCall added. "If A&E didn't like the Robertsons as they are, then why did they give them a weekly platform?"

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1 posted on 12/20/2013 11:05:43 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Oh, I thought the uneasy reality is that the executives are anus fans.


2 posted on 12/20/2013 11:06:54 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: BenLurkin
WHY does ANYONE care about "Duck Dynasty"??
3 posted on 12/20/2013 11:11:45 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: BenLurkin

Didn’t Dirty Jobs” get dumped because the star was to conservative?


4 posted on 12/20/2013 11:11:52 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: BenLurkin

I like this article’s take on the elite handlers attitude:

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/pat-archbold/duck-dynasty-the-show-that-got-away-from-them


5 posted on 12/20/2013 11:20:10 AM PST by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: DesertRhino

That would explain the Kardashians.


6 posted on 12/20/2013 11:21:35 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: cloudmountain

Because we enjoy the show and like the family and watch it with our family.

(and we’re tired of the two faced, intolerant “tolerance” crowd always being in our faces).


7 posted on 12/20/2013 11:22:06 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: cloudmountain
WHY does ANYONE care about "Duck Dynasty"??

I didn't UNTIL A&E brought this thing into the headlines. NOW I'm interested. Interested enough to contact A&E and let them know my displeasure over suspending Phil. I watched a few minutes of the program a long time ago and just didn't "get it".

8 posted on 12/20/2013 11:23:53 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: cloudmountain

Well, because it is a great family show promoting Christian ideals (for the most part). It is funny and wholesome. WHY would ANYONE not care about the treatment of Phil Robertson? Phil was simply paraphrasing 1 Corinthians 6:9.


9 posted on 12/20/2013 11:24:36 AM PST by bluecollarman (Wanted....witty tagline.)
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To: cloudmountain
WHY does ANYONE care about "Duck Dynasty"??

What's your personal favorite TV show, CM?

10 posted on 12/20/2013 11:24:58 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Valpal1
Because we enjoy the show and like the family and watch it with our family.
(and we’re tired of the two faced, intolerant “tolerance” crowd always being in our faces).

Two good reasons. My apologies.
Continue to enjoy.

11 posted on 12/20/2013 11:26:04 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: BipolarBob
I didn't UNTIL A&E brought this thing into the headlines. NOW I'm interested. Interested enough to contact A&E and let them know my displeasure over suspending Phil. I watched a few minutes of the program a long time ago and just didn't "get it".

Given your call sign, I'm not surprised. :o)

12 posted on 12/20/2013 11:27:07 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: BenLurkin
I'm highly amused that these bubble-living, tv execs are stunned that people outside their bubble don't share the same degenerate views they harbor. Phil Robertson's views on homosexuality are probably the same as 70-75% of all adult males. Naturally, many male libs hide their true feelings about homosexuality for fear of being ostracized by their peers.

It has nothing to do with hating homosexuals or not tolerating their behavior. It's just a fact that, like Robertson said, the human anus was designed for one particular function not involving sexual organs.

13 posted on 12/20/2013 11:28:05 AM PST by driftless2
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To: Alex Murphy
My favorite shows, since I can't give you just one:

Tennis
Cooking shows (Rachael Ray and the Barefoot Blimp)
O'Reilly
Sci fi
Law & Order, all of them
Court shows: Judge Alex, People's court, Judge Mathis, etc. All the judges are good.
Magnum
Dragnet

14 posted on 12/20/2013 11:32:06 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain
"WHY does ANYONE care about "Duck Dynasty"?? "

NY Daily News headlines it as SCHMUCK DYNASTY. Maybe that will attract viewers in NYC.

15 posted on 12/20/2013 11:33:27 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: cloudmountain

Because it is the only show on TV that you can watch with your children that doesn’t have gratuitous sex scenes, filthy language and liberal brainwashing agendas.


16 posted on 12/20/2013 11:34:54 AM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: cloudmountain
WHY does ANYONE care about "Duck Dynasty"??

Seriously?


17 posted on 12/20/2013 11:36:27 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: cloudmountain
It is good wholesome fun. I can turn it on and not have to see gratuitous lesbian sex, toilet humor, or banal dialogue from over priced liberal mouthpieces.

The family is genuine and every episode they give thanks to God for their blessings.

18 posted on 12/20/2013 11:38:17 AM PST by verga (The devil is in the details)
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To: cloudmountain

A seemingly good and decent person is being unfairly targeted and abused by powerful elites. It upsets people.


19 posted on 12/20/2013 11:38:41 AM PST by Nickname
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To: driftless2

I kinda sorta suspect that the female execs at A&E couldn’t face the prospect of the Christmas party season having to deal with all their Hollywood pals giving them grief over Phil, so they decided to discipline him a little bit...

...and then the fight started.

Now they have an even bigger problem, the potential loss of their most popular show.

This is what happens when someone makes an socio-emotional decision based on peer acceptance when they should have been making a business decision.


20 posted on 12/20/2013 11:39:15 AM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: cloudmountain

It’s actually a really funny show with a good Christian moral to each episode wrapped up with the family prayer at dinner time at the end.


21 posted on 12/20/2013 11:45:23 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: cloudmountain

You have not been paying attention… it is not about the show. A person spoke about his faith and was asked specifically about sin and homosexuality. Phil answered in a biblical manner and essentially was fired for speaking his faith. YOU and everyone else should be outraged at this. The ‘truth’ patrol will be knocking on your door next saying you said something to someone that was offensive. This is a threat to anyone who wishes to be able to speak openly. This country is a very short distance from out lawing biblical teaching and the Bible. YOU and everyone else should care about this


22 posted on 12/20/2013 11:48:21 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Valpal1

I’ll bet many of those “outraged” tv execs don’t care one way or the other about Robertson’s statements. I get the feeling that Robertson was set up. These libs had to know what he and his clan thought about homosexuality. They couldn’t have been that dumb even if they are libs. Probably some homo(s) with power at A&E decided to force the issue and take the network down the tubes with him rather than tolerate Christians on his network.


23 posted on 12/20/2013 11:52:26 AM PST by driftless2
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To: cloudmountain

A&E started Duck Dynasty as a way to poke fun at their lifestyle. Mockery. Now they have an unexpected hit on their hands and the stars of the show use their success to speak out on Christianity.

Liberal A&E would rather lose the ratings than allow conservative viewpoints to be expressed. While this is not a first ammendment issue, it is certainly an illustration of the lengths that the entertainment industry will go to silence Christians.


24 posted on 12/20/2013 11:52:38 AM PST by kidd
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To: BenLurkin

You have to wonder how much the producers of “American Chopper” had to do with the explosion of the Tuttle family. It seemed to me like a lot of the controversy that you’d see during a typical episode was amped-up to say the least.


25 posted on 12/20/2013 11:56:16 AM PST by Tallguy (between taglines...)
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To: Nifster

Or a very short distance from unleashing hell on the communist sex perverts trying to subjugate us.

This is where we draw the line, time to tell the faggots to get back in the closet and leave decent folk alone


26 posted on 12/20/2013 11:59:36 AM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: ex-snook
NY Daily News headlines it as SCHMUCK DYNASTY. Maybe that will attract viewers in NYC.

Boy, can the NY Daily News take insult to a HIGH level.

27 posted on 12/20/2013 11:59:42 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

DD’s not my cup of tea either.

But as a cultural phenomenon that represents pushback by “the people” and something that others enjoy, I’m for it.


28 posted on 12/20/2013 12:02:15 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Because it is the only show on TV that you can watch with your children that doesn’t have gratuitous sex scenes, filthy language and liberal brainwashing agendas.

The ONLY show?
I watch the old stuff, Frasier, and such. The old shows are great and your kids would love them. You don't have to tell them that they are old shows if they are very young. Just let them enjoy.

As for the liberal brainwashing agendas, that's par for the course since the most liberal Dems are the network moguls. I would think they would be a great teaching tool for you.

29 posted on 12/20/2013 12:02:39 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Windflier

Yes, seriously. I don’t find the two guys funny AT ALL...seriously.


30 posted on 12/20/2013 12:04:05 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Mount Athos

Yep, I’d say he’s pegged it just about perfectly.


31 posted on 12/20/2013 12:04:33 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: BenLurkin

TV Land... dissenting opinions are not allowed


32 posted on 12/20/2013 12:05:24 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: kidd
A&E started Duck Dynasty as a way to poke fun at their lifestyle. Mockery. Now they have an unexpected hit on their hands and the stars of the show use their success to speak out on Christianity.
Liberal A&E would rather lose the ratings than allow conservative viewpoints to be expressed. While this is not a first ammendment issue, it is certainly an illustration of the lengths that the entertainment industry will go to silence Christians.

Agreed on the second paragraph.

Hollyweird detests Christianity because it decries their lifestyle, the nudity, profanity, blasphemy, immorality, greed, and such. That is what Christianity is SUPPOSED to do, among other things.

33 posted on 12/20/2013 12:07:23 PM PST by cloudmountain
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i don’t care about Duck Dynasty; never watched it and rarely watch TV, but the hypocrisy should outrage everyone and I, for one, am glad its getting this kind of coverage...

think of it like this; the same whiney liberals who are screaming about this guys views on homosexuality think NOTHING of referring to you or i as “tea baggers”....


34 posted on 12/20/2013 12:09:32 PM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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i don’t care about Duck Dynasty; never watched it and rarely watch TV, but the hypocrisy should outrage everyone and I, for one, am glad its getting this kind of coverage...
think of it like this; the same whiney liberals who are screaming about this guys views on homosexuality think NOTHING of referring to you or i as “tea baggers”....

You have a point.

35 posted on 12/20/2013 12:10:23 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Mount Athos
That is a good take on the situation I think. DD is a little too silly for me so I've never watched it much, but I really like the standards and values they've brought to TV.
36 posted on 12/20/2013 12:41:04 PM PST by skyman
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To: cloudmountain

“My favorite shows, since I can’t give you just one: ...”

Well there you go...you do have any comedies listed except O’Reilly. That’s why you don’t get it.


37 posted on 12/20/2013 12:42:27 PM PST by bluecollarman (Wanted....witty tagline.)
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To: cloudmountain

If you’re a person with a family you will enjoy this show. Yes, for the most part it’s fake, but they make fun of themselves and if you’ll take your time to get to know the characters, you’ll love them.

They have marathons of this show all the time. I’ll challenge any one with a sense of humor to sit down and watch 3 episodes. If you do, you’ll be hooked.

I don’t think I’ve ever laughed so hard at a television show more than when Willie Robinson took a Yoga class while trying to lose weight. Too freakin funny.


38 posted on 12/20/2013 12:48:04 PM PST by skinndogNN
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To: cloudmountain

Clearly, you don’t. Why would anyone bother to answer your question? Why do you even ask it? Does it make you feel superior?


39 posted on 12/20/2013 12:51:26 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: cloudmountain

I watched a couple of episodes. It’s not really my cup of tea, although I do like the various Storage Wars shows on A&E. But the big picture here is the precedent set. If professing a Biblical point of view is unacceptable in one major corporation, especially a media corporation, it will over time become the norm in corporate culture in general. If expressing such a view risks future career opportunities, it will have, to use a phrase the liberal media loves, a “chilling effect” on freedom of religion and speech. So although I’m neither a fan of the show nor a Christian, I think it’s important.


40 posted on 12/20/2013 12:54:14 PM PST by Hugin
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To: cloudmountain

The Hitler principle. First they came for Duck Dynasty, and you said nothing. Next they’ll come after you.

There is a war on Christianity in this country. Like most liberal movements it got its foothold decades ago with a radical change, taking prayer out of the schools, that current generations grew up not knowing any other way. After a while they got birth control and condoms into the schools to promote promiscuity and premarital sex. And now they’re sending in the “gay activists” to teach your kids how to practice homosexuality in the name of “tolerance.”

As of this year, we’ve now seen that “gay rights” are now being used as the excuse to steal constitutional rights away from Christians, via assaults on the freedoms of wedding photographers, cakemakers and now Phil Robertson. In parallel, “health care rights” are being used to force churches to participate in abortions.

It’s not hard to imagine where this will go next. There will be continually unfolding lists of regulations every church must follow in order to keep their “licenses.” People will be fired, fined, locked up and have the state take away their children because they committed “hate speech” by trying to teach the bible.

But it sounds like you want to ignore what’s happening, let everyone else get carted off in the trains, and wait until they come knocking out your door to worry about it, by which point it will be too late.


41 posted on 12/20/2013 1:15:43 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: cloudmountain
“WHY does ANYONE care about “Duck Dynasty”??”

First they came for Duck Dynasty, but I didn't watch Duck Dynasty so I did nothing.................”

42 posted on 12/20/2013 1:21:46 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: cloudmountain

Seriously! Seriously?


43 posted on 12/20/2013 1:22:48 PM PST by vpintheak (Thankful to be God blessed & chosen!)
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To: BenLurkin

Just called Comcas to have A&E removed form my cable TV service. The Customer Service Rep says that A&E is part of a larger package and I’d lose over 100 channels.

I told , “OK, remove them all.” He then spoke with his manager who said (1) others are calling Comcast to cancel A&E and (2) Comcast may have a solution soon to remove/block single channels.

I told him that I didn’t want any of my money to go to A&E as part of what I pay for the package and if Comcast couldn’t do that I’ll leave Comcast.

Given that he said they were working on a solution I’m going to give them 2 weeks and then cancel if A&E gets one penny of my money. And, I’ll drop Comcast, if need be, as well.

Everybody needs to call, call, call and cancel A&E.


44 posted on 12/20/2013 1:23:29 PM PST by BFM (CLINTON is and always will be a rapist. Never forget!)
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To: BenLurkin

The premise is all wrong. The Robertsons don’t need Atheists & Elitists, Atheists & Elitists need the Robertsons. Phil and the boys never have to work again. Willie made them all rich. And now Phil, Jase and Si can hunt and fish to their hearts are content.

The notion that these people are stupid, backwoods hicks is hilarious. Phil has a BA and Masters in Education from LSU and an entrepreneur who built a very successful business. Willie is an MBA who brought it to another level. Jase, Jep and the Pastor are all college graduates. And to top it all off Terry Bradshaw says Phil was the best football player he had ever seen when he backed Phil up at LSU.

And on top of all that Phil can live off the land unlike 98% of Americans.

Phil Robertson did it his way and there is nothing A&E can do to change anything about him.


45 posted on 12/20/2013 1:38:25 PM PST by jwalsh07
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46 posted on 12/20/2013 1:41:37 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: GeronL

Read the comments, and understand why we are lurching toward CW2.


47 posted on 12/20/2013 1:42:52 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

bump


48 posted on 12/20/2013 1:50:32 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: BFM

Comcast/Xfinity, as well as all cable companies have been saying we’ll be able to order channels “ala carte” for years now. The truth of the matter is, it’s not happening “soon” and it probably never will. Such a move would cost the channels too much money


49 posted on 12/20/2013 2:00:44 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: BenLurkin

I have vowed to stop watching anything on A&E until they reinstate Phil - and I have never watched the show!

I also sent emails to every advertiser and A&E networks telling that they have lost one set of eyeballs.

It’s time that others start doing what the gays, lesbians, blacks, hispanics, and others do all the time - boycott it.


50 posted on 12/20/2013 2:14:35 PM PST by msrngtp2002 (Just my opinion.)
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