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PC makers plan rebellion against Windows at 2014 Consumer Electronics Show (CES), analysts say
Fox News ^ | 01/01/2014

Posted on 01/01/2014 3:59:47 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: OrangeHoof
I despise smeary prints all over my screen...

Preach it brother! If anything ever sets me off at work it'll be when someone comes into my office, has me pull up some info on the computer, then sticks their greasy finger on my monitor ... For crying out loud people - learn to communicate and articulate without merely pointing! We are a little past cave-man grunts and gestures aren't we?

21 posted on 01/01/2014 5:01:09 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: OrangeHoof; SeekAndFind
If I wanted my desktop monitor to have fingerprints smeared all over it by “dragging” items from one spot to another, I’d get an OS like my phone. Personally, I despise smeary prints all over my screen so I will stay with the OS designed for desktops and laptops, thank you.

An Android OS makes sense when there’s no real keyboard or the keyboard is really tiny. Otherwise, it sucks.

I agree! I can move a cursor much more efficiently and faster from a mouse or touch pad than I can from a touch screen. I don't see why this should be considered progress.

22 posted on 01/01/2014 5:05:48 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not really out to get you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not sure what kind of performance you can expect..

Crappy would be my guess.

23 posted on 01/01/2014 5:19:19 PM PST by TomServo
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To: adorno
However, the iFanatics will eat it up.

I've used a wide array of computers
I remember the Altair 8800
I studied programming on PDP-8’s (Dec-tape)
I actually owned a Timex Sinclair 1000
I've used every iteration of Windows since 1.0

None the less
I am more comfortable in the Mac “ecosystem”
of course, your mileage may vary

I've heard the entire gamut of bias in the OS wars on this site.
a while back, Jim Robinson asked for peace on this subject

the ifanatic/icrap pejoratives are unnecessary

24 posted on 01/01/2014 5:20:39 PM PST by HangnJudge
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To: Star Traveler
I've started to look for a mouse solution for my wife's iPad.

Also looking to get a phat external battery to extend the life of the iPad's internal battery. No way that I want to take the iPad apart, nor buy a new one.

25 posted on 01/01/2014 5:28:47 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: usconservative
I have several google apps on my windows 8.1 laptop. They run fine.

I've been much more satisfied with windows 8.1 than I thought I would be. I'll admit that I don't use the tiles very often but I don't feel "lost" coming from windows 7.

26 posted on 01/01/2014 5:34:37 PM PST by Abby4116
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To: SeekAndFind

Personally I think that Microsoft could make a fortune with a stripped down version of Windows tailored for specific user needs and MS and third party software.

Imagine how fast your computer would be if the 50-75(?)% of Windows you didn’t need and never used, was not there to inhibit its operations?

The way to do this is for MS to create an online app, in which users would list just the hardware and software that they use. The MS would calculate exactly what you need, and you could pay for and download your new OS that would be burned to DVD.

This would be very profitable for MS as well, because any other software you wanted you would buy ala carte, because to make it mesh perfectly with just your OS, your OS would need to be rearranged a little.


27 posted on 01/01/2014 5:35:57 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

AMD is coming out with new cheeps that’ll run like a hurricane, they say. Then there are the Chromebooks. Waiting for ASUS’es m’self!


28 posted on 01/01/2014 5:37:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Paladin2

The life of the battery is determined by how many recharge cycles you have. I believe I’ve read that after 1,000 charge cycles that the percentage of capacity left should be 80%

Now, there is one sure fire method to prevent the battery from wearing out to even that minimal extent - don’t get to 1,000 recharge cycles. And how do you do that? Simply ... by running it as much as possible from the plug ... :-) ...

And, by the way, a charge cycle is a full cycle, and not a partial one. So, if you use 20% and then charge it up, do that again and charge it up - and do that five times in a row ... that is only ONE FULL CHARGE CYCLE.


29 posted on 01/01/2014 5:38:53 PM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: HangnJudge

Don’t take it personally, but the iFanatics do exist, and so does the iCrap. The iDevices aren’t any better than many devices that use Android or Windows, but, the iFanatics will always be “convinced” that the Apple stuff is better, no matter what the realities.


30 posted on 01/01/2014 5:40:53 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: SeekAndFind; ShadowAce

Imagine if you can switch between Windows and Ubuntu at a touch of a button!


31 posted on 01/01/2014 5:41:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: adorno

NO different from Ford fanatics, Exxon fanatics, Sunbeam fanatics. Tell us something we don’t know.


32 posted on 01/01/2014 5:44:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Abby4116
I've been much more satisfied with windows 8.1 than I thought I would be.

The PC I'm on right now was upgraded from Windows 8 (which ran flawlessly) to Windows 8.1 yesterday.

After untold number of problems - some of which seem to be tied to a motherboard that was certified for Windows 8 -- but magically NOT for 8.1 according to MS - I've gone back to Windows 8.

I've NEVER experienced an issue with an "uncertified motherboard" during a dot-rev upgrade with ANY OS. This is a first for me, and MS has some 'splaining to do based on the forums I've been reading between yesterday and today.

33 posted on 01/01/2014 5:44:40 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ThunderSleeps
"We are a little past cave-man grunts and gestures aren't we?"

Hey, speak for yourself! ;>)

34 posted on 01/01/2014 5:44:49 PM PST by DJ Frisat ((optional, printed after my name on post))
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To: GeronL
Imagine if you can switch between Windows and Ubuntu at a touch of a button!

VMWare.

35 posted on 01/01/2014 5:45:15 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I agree. Imagine a cheap Windows Micro OS that allows you to buy the stuff you wanted to add on. That would likely have some of us Linux guys thinking about it.


36 posted on 01/01/2014 5:45:36 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Imagine if you can switch between Windows and Ubuntu at a touch of a button!

KVM

37 posted on 01/01/2014 5:54:55 PM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

well, yeah


38 posted on 01/01/2014 5:55:13 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: usconservative

My experience, and that of most people, is that, PCs nowadays are less expensive than owning a smartphone or any tablet. For a smartphone, one needs to purchase the device, or it comes included as part of the package that includes the device and the smartphone. Thus, a person could end up with a smartphone which, in reality, ends up costing thousands of dollars in the span of a 2-year cell plan. No PC nowadays approaches that kind of cost, unless one wants to consider that broadband is also needed to do a lot of the things a PC does nowadays. However, smartphones become obsolete a lot quicker than PCs, and thus, people might end up purchasing 2 or 3 or more smartphones, as opposed to just a single PC that lasts 5 or more years, and for which the OS gets support for 10 years or more.

When it comes to people doing “more” on their smartphones, it depends on what “more” is defined as. Recent surveys still point to internet traffic still being done mostly from PCs, by a large margin. That margin is considerably larger than the combined traffic from smartphones and tablets.

When one considers the overall cost for the lifespan of the PC, it’s a many times less than the cost of using a smartphone or tablet; and that includes the cost of the OS in the PC, which is supported for a lot longer than the OSes on Android devices or in iOS devices; in fact, there are iOS devices which aren’t being supported by Apple after 3 years; compare that to the support that XP and Windows 7 users get, which is for more than a decade. When the mobile OS stops being supported, most users will feel the need to go get the latest mobile device out there.

So, the reality is still that, neither smartphones nor any of the OSes, come even close to offering any real competition to PS or Windows devices.


39 posted on 01/01/2014 5:55:56 PM PST by adorno (Y)
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To: adorno
The iDevices aren’t any better than many devices that use Android or Windows, but, the iFanatics will always be “convinced” that the Apple stuff is better, no matter what the realities.

As someone who grew up programming assembly language on old TRS-80's, migrated to PC's and Pascal, built server farms and entire data centers that were Microsoft centric and a career that started in 1985, I can tell you factually that my Apple and its peripherals are exponentially better than my 8-Core Intel Desktop and its peripherals.

When I plug something into my Mac I know it's going to work.

Can't say that about my PC.

Now there's a reason why when I plug something into my Mac and it "just works" and on my PC it may not.

Fact is, Apple's hardware footprint is much smaller than that of the PC/Microsoft market. For example, there's HUNDREDS of webcams available for PC's. On the Mac there may be 2-3.

It's alot easier to control Hardware, OS, Peripheral and Driver quality (ie: "it just works") with a much narrower base of hardware to work with, which is what Apple does.

My first PC was a dual-floppy 8086 with 256mb of memory on which I wrote financial accounting software. So I go back to the original IBM PC (and TRS-80's, Commie 64's, Timex Sinclair's and more before that.) I've had a Mac on my desk side by side with my PC for two years. For the majority of things I do, my Mac is hands-down my go-to machine. My PC runs my home automation and amateur radio gear. I never thought I'd prefer a Mac over a PC for my everyday tasks --- but I do.

40 posted on 01/01/2014 5:56:56 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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