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Former Del Mar [ca] Mayor Killed By Train In Attempt To Save Dog From Tracks
CBSLA.com) ^ | January 4, 2014 10:02 PM

Posted on 01/05/2014 6:27:09 AM PST by BenLurkin

DEL MAR (CBSLA.com) — A former mayor of Del Mar was killed on Friday when he was hit by an Amtrak train as he attempted to save his dog from the tracks.

The 75-year-old man, whose name has not been released, was reportedly walking his Labrador Retriever off-leash on a coastal bluff near the tracks, according to San Diego Sheriff’s deputies.

Witnesses suggest the dog may have been startled when the train’s engineer sounded his horn, which resulted in the animal panicking and running onto the tracks.

The man was struck by the train as he leaned over the tracks to grab the dog.

The dog was not hurt.

The man’s neighbors say that he was well-respected in the community, and that he had been mayor of Del Mar in the 1980s, in addition to being a political science professor at San Diego State University.

“He’s done this probably a million times, and for the train to come by like that, it’s tragic and we’re all kind of shocked because we’ve lived here for 20 years and (have) never seen anything like this,” a neighbor said.


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dangeroustracks; doggieping
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1 posted on 01/05/2014 6:27:09 AM PST by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

“walking his Labrador Retriever off-leash”

Nothing to see here. Move along......

“........ because sit happens”

Off-Leash Fascination in Rural Areas

As a trainer I am often asked by handlers why their dogs won’t listen to them when they are off leash. The usual comments I hear are that their dog will ‘bolt’ when off leash or never come to them or just generally show no interest in the owners - preferring to do what dogs usually do and that is wander off, ignore the repeated calling of their name or chase after small animals and other prey (or skateboarders, or cars - you name it, they do it!).

Having originated in the ‘big city’ (Toronto) prior to moving to our paradise in the country, I was clearly unaccustomed to being repeatedly asked why this occurs with their dogs. No one in their right mind would allow their dogs off leash in a city (other than in leash free parks which I am firmly opposed to or in their fenced backyards). As soon, however, as city folk move to the country, they believe their dogs have a god given right to roam freely and be off leash without any regard to their safety. Furthermore, it is expected that their dogs will obey and listen to their every command - as if by magic - just because they are off leash!

I have decided to offer this write-up to both clients and other interested parties because I truly need to set the record straight and explain why this is so patently unfair and, indeed, an exercise in futility (not to mention a dangerous one for the dog itself).

http://www.spiritridge.net/Off%20leash%20fascination.htm


2 posted on 01/05/2014 6:34:25 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: BenLurkin

Gee, when I saw Del Mar and Track in the same headline, I thought it had something to do with horseracing.


3 posted on 01/05/2014 6:35:23 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: BenLurkin

That is a very sad story. RIP poor fellow.


4 posted on 01/05/2014 6:38:38 AM PST by jocon307
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

Computer Hope

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

5 posted on 01/05/2014 6:38:49 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: KeyLargo

Thx!


6 posted on 01/05/2014 6:40:05 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: KeyLargo

Why on earth are you opposed to leash free doggie parks?

We have a very nice one in our little town, and I think it’s the high point of the day for my two dogs. We actually don’t have a yard for them, so they are taken on a long walk in the morning, and have their afternoon workout running with their “friends” in the leash free doggie park.


7 posted on 01/05/2014 6:47:06 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: basil

Dog Parks
Why They Are A Bad Idea
by Ed Frawley

“I want to go on record as saying that the concept of “Dog Parks” was well intended but a bad idea, especially when dogs are allowed to run off-leash. The main problems all stem from people who don’t understand and have not established pack structure with their dogs. This means their dogs are out of control. “

http://leerburg.com/dogparks.htm


8 posted on 01/05/2014 6:56:11 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Boy the disdain you have for your customers makes you EXACTLY the type of dog trainer I’d want.


9 posted on 01/05/2014 6:57:28 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: basil

My dog loves the dog park. He has friends there and gets to say hi to a lot of humans.


10 posted on 01/05/2014 6:59:01 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: KeyLargo
As soon, however, as city folk move to the country, they believe their dogs have a god given right to roam freely and be off leash without any regard to their safety.

Things like this happen for one simple reason. Most people are basically idiots when it comes to what was formerly known as "common sense". They just don't think very well.

11 posted on 01/05/2014 7:02:51 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: BenLurkin

Up the coast in Bodega Bay an entire family was wiped out because a dog was in distress in the surf.

The dog survived.


12 posted on 01/05/2014 7:08:46 AM PST by cicero2k
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To: KeyLargo

Sorry—I’ve been taking my dogs to the Dog park for at least 14 years now. If new folks show up and are not watching their dogs properly, the rest of us let them know immediately.

We can suggest they leave if their dog show signs of “not playing well with others”—and if there is still a problem, we have an animal control cop we can call, although I’ve never known that to happen.

There is a fence dividing the park into 2 sections—one for small dogs—but most of the smaller dogs play just fine in the big side.

The park is clean and well maintained—we are each responsible for cleaning up after our dogs, and no one has a problem with telling another dog owner that his dog needs cleaning up after, in case the owner does not notice that his dog is leaving a mess.


13 posted on 01/05/2014 7:13:25 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: ETL

No, I think it’s closer to some people — especially those who have been around for awhile — remembering what it was like when we were a free people, and we did not live in rabbit warrens.

Yes, common sense and responsibility are both essential elements of being a free people. Perhaps this gentleman, while walking his dog, was just remembering those times, and that freedom, and forgot where he was and what year he was in.

Personally, I only let my dog run unleashed when we are in our backyard, or in a recognized dog park, or out in the boonies.

Sad.


14 posted on 01/05/2014 7:14:15 AM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: BenLurkin

Geez, no dog is worth dodging a train.


15 posted on 01/05/2014 7:15:02 AM PST by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: BenLurkin

Like grabbing a football “fumble”, I raced to scoop up my dachshund puppy from being run over. It was close, but I’d do it again.


16 posted on 01/05/2014 7:18:53 AM PST by Does so ("Miranda Warnings" and loss of "Common Marriage" = 2 Big Mistakes...)
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To: BenLurkin

Retired Political Science Professor Louis Terrell:

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2013/11/obama-in-la-speech-dreamworks-highlights-economy-creativity
“...San Diego State University Professor Emeritus Dr. Louis Terrell, however, said he thought Obama would say something like, “We are moving forward: Less unemployment, stock market up to new peaks. Republicans have only been a negative force.”

Dr. Terrell said Obama is speaking about the economy in a state with and 8.3 percent unemployment rate, Dr. Terrell said, “Biggest State in the Union—California unemployment rate not an outlier. Very appropriate to use California as a launching pad for discussing the state of our country’s economy.””


17 posted on 01/05/2014 7:21:04 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: KeyLargo

My brother is a veterinarian and he agrees with your statements on dog parks. He also adds disease as another reason to stay out of dog parks.


18 posted on 01/05/2014 7:22:31 AM PST by Ditter
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To: BenLurkin

Here spot. Here spot. SPOT!


19 posted on 01/05/2014 7:25:58 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: BenLurkin

Maybe the dog was using the tracks to find the polar axis for his next poop.


20 posted on 01/05/2014 7:29:51 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Ditter

“Last year, a dog was killed at a Seattle dog park by two other dogs. I have met too many people who have had dogs severely injured at dog parks to remain passively abstinent. The real danger lies when small dogs are attacked by larger dogs. It doesn’t take much force for a small dog’s internal organs to be damaged from the bite of a larger dog.

Often when someone’s dog is attacked at a dog park, the owner of the dangerous dog is M.I.A. …Nowhere to be found. The dangerous dog is likely to return in the near future for more “play,” and there is no human accountability.”

“I stopped going to dog parks about a year ago and have since been walking my dogs around the neighborhood for their (our) exercise. Not only is it a much more constructive, balanced way to burn energy, but also a great bonding experience since dogs have a programmed need to travel with the pack. They’re happier, I’m happier, and I don’t risk either of my dogs getting hurt.”

Source:

http://www.examiner.com/article/dog-parks-a-recipe-for-disaster


21 posted on 01/05/2014 7:30:54 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: Doc Savage

Protect Yourself and Your Dog from an Off Leash Dog

http://smartdog.typepad.com/smart_dog/2013/05/protect-yourself-and-your-dog-from-an-off-leash-dog.html


22 posted on 01/05/2014 7:38:10 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: BenLurkin

RIP


23 posted on 01/05/2014 7:40:13 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Does so
Like grabbing a football “fumble”, I raced to scoop up my dachshund puppy from being run over. It was close, but I’d do it again.

I remember when I lived in a rural farm town in upstate NY. Seemed like one out of three dogs was missing a leg. There would be loose dogs walking along highways, nearly all of whom, it turned out, belonged to people in the area.

24 posted on 01/05/2014 7:41:28 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: driftdiver; KeyLargo

I’m not sure how you read “disdain for customers” out of that post. He was writing about the vast majority of dog owners, not any one particular individual.

Having observed human/dog interaction for a number of years, I thought he was spot on.


25 posted on 01/05/2014 7:42:54 AM PST by LSAggie
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To: KeyLargo

What we need now is a leash law for Cats.


26 posted on 01/05/2014 7:42:56 AM PST by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: iowamark
Re: Retired Political Science Professor Louis Terrell

Devastating: Louis Terrell, 75, was killed by a train in Del Mar on Friday as he tried to catch his dog which had run across the tracks

Devastating: Louis Terrell, 75, was killed by a train in Del Mar on Friday as he tried to catch his dog which had run across the tracks

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2534016/Ex-mayor-75-killed-train-tried-rescue-dog-tracks.html

27 posted on 01/05/2014 7:48:21 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: LSAggie

The term “vast majority” does have a meaning.


28 posted on 01/05/2014 7:49:25 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Ditter

Well if we kept our dogs locked up they would never fail to come or catch a disease.

Geez you guys are sounding a lot like liberals. The common man is too stupid to care for himself or his property so the govt must step in.


29 posted on 01/05/2014 7:53:12 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ETL
Upsetting: Witnesses said Terrell was trying to save his Labrador retriever, Abe, when he was killed

30 posted on 01/05/2014 7:55:57 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
Startled Witnesses said Abe the dog was spooked by the loud horn of an oncoming train and ran across the tracks

31 posted on 01/05/2014 7:57:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: driftdiver

Nitpick, nitpick! I stopped going to the dog park years ago when I noticed people yakking on their cellphones and not watching their dogs, using the dog park for date night and not watching their dogs, and using the dog park to see if their dog was dog-aggressive (Look, Mabel, he is!).

Bah-humbug. Our dogs get nice long walks every day, and they can get loved on by passersby to their heart’s content. Not that we don’t have to contend with the occasion loose dog, but that’s another story.


32 posted on 01/05/2014 8:02:07 AM PST by LSAggie
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To: driftdiver
Who said anything about the government? My brother is a vet in a private practice. He treats sick and injured dogs 6 days a week and has for over 40 years. I trust his judgment.
33 posted on 01/05/2014 8:08:44 AM PST by Ditter
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To: ETL
Yes, a sad story. However, Terrell was an uber-lib poly sci prof who also led chapters of Planned Parenthood, the ACLU, and other leftist organizations. Am not sorry he no longer can spread anti-life, anti-freedom, anti-American poison.
34 posted on 01/05/2014 8:10:01 AM PST by twister881
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To: twister881

In that regard, most definitely.


35 posted on 01/05/2014 8:12:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: basil
from the link:

"Dogs do NOT need to be 'free'! What dogs need is love and respect in the form of attention, training and social companionship within their family 'pack'! Letting them roam does NOT provide them with physical or mental exercise but, rather, contributes to boredom. If you let a dog loose on a large acreage, chances are that after five minutes, the dog will settle in a 10 square foot area and start digging, or sleep or just lay there. Without proper interest and stimulation they will NOT get the exercise they need and deserve."

And, of course, you can never count on that 'other dog' being trained in a leash-free environment. Your dogs may be fine in such a circumstance but you never know about the other guy's, and it's a real risk especially if the other dog is aggressive.

36 posted on 01/05/2014 8:21:33 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
"Dogs do NOT need to be 'free'! What dogs need is love and respect in the form of attention, training and social companionship within their family 'pack'! Letting them roam does NOT provide them with physical or mental exercise but, rather, contributes to boredom.

If you've ever watched dogs running around loose with other dogs in a closed-in area at a park or wherever, it couldn't be more obvious that they, well, at least most of them, are having the time of their lives. My problem is with those who allow their dogs to run loose in the street and other open areas, where many things can potentially happen to them, other dogs and animals, and people.

37 posted on 01/05/2014 8:30:32 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: BenLurkin

RIP.


38 posted on 01/05/2014 8:33:22 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

...however, there are of course occasional fights between the dogs, and fairly common bullying that goes on. Also, I suppose, the disease problem.


39 posted on 01/05/2014 8:34:18 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

We train dogs in our house. One of my boys has a CDX and the other will before long. I would trust either of them off-leash in a heartbeat. But, frankly, I wouldn’t let either of my dogs play in such an environment.


40 posted on 01/05/2014 8:37:19 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: ETL

And you’re quite right. It’s really not worth the risk. If the dogs absolutely, positively have to be off leash, we take them into the woods or on a trail where we can control the environment a little better. We’re fortunate in that we have access to places like that and a lot of city dog owners don’t. But we just prefer not to take the chance.


41 posted on 01/05/2014 8:38:27 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

It’s worked for me forever—sorry you had a bad experience.

I live in a nice little town with nice people.

If there ever should be a vicious dog fight—which I doubt, I’m armed, and I can handle it.


42 posted on 01/05/2014 8:48:27 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: basil

You know, I saw your tagline after I posted and it occurs to me that you could handle it, at that. :)

I never had a bad experience, though. I wouldn’t put my dogs in an off-leash park to begin with. That said, I’m glad your dogs enjoy it.


43 posted on 01/05/2014 9:03:55 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

What is a CDX?


44 posted on 01/05/2014 9:25:06 AM PST by webheart (Watch out for the bots! They will disagree with you!)
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To: BenLurkin
A former mayor of Del Mar was killed on Friday when he was hit by an Amtrak train as he attempted to save his dog from the tracks.

The 75-year-old man, whose name has not been released,

This media stunt just hacks me off. How many 75 year old former mayors of Del Mar, CA would anyone know? They've ID'd the victim and yet REFUSE to name the victim because of some stupid journalist rule that says you can't announce the name of a dead person before the authorities do.

If you're going to report the story, either tell us his name or omit that he was a former mayor so that everyone with a 75-year-old family member in Del Mar can be worried about their loved one.

Or maybe it makes more sense to just hold off reporting this for a short time until the identity can be confirmed and then you can do an obit on the mayor.

45 posted on 01/05/2014 9:39:50 AM PST by OrangeHoof (2001-2008: "Dissent Is Patriotism!" 2009-2016: "Dissent Is Racism!")
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To: BenLurkin
Sorry....dogs are cool and a reasonable person would never do anything to intentionally harm one (unless *it* was a threat to *you*) but going near train tracks,as a train approaches,to rescue one is *beyond* silly.
46 posted on 01/05/2014 10:12:15 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: cicero2k

Over in Iowa, some guy and his wife had car trouble or were lost, so they pulled over to the side of the road. Their dog got out of the car and was wandering in the roadway. The guy went to get the dog and he got run over by a couple of cars. The dog survived.


47 posted on 01/05/2014 10:18:06 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: KeyLargo

Many years ago my dad had a big, wonderful German Shepherd that was great around children and adults but when it came to other male dogs, he was alpha all the way. Zarek would not have played nice at a dog park........LOL!


48 posted on 01/05/2014 10:29:46 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: BenLurkin

So sad. Sorry such an awful thing happened. I’ve been 3rd party to such a nasty thing. But not a passenger train! How awful for all the passengers to have this on their minds.

Now I’ll start on my rambling.

Never, ever mess with trains. Especially for a dog. They are much, much bigger and powerful than mere semi-trailers, but you wouldn’t mess with that, would you?

Now, what is it with Labs? Why does everyone think they have a Lab so can let it run free? This infuriates me to no end. Loose dog? It’s a Lab.

No dog should be off lead, especially in reasonably populated areas.


49 posted on 01/05/2014 3:55:08 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Mouton

I wish!


50 posted on 01/05/2014 3:55:23 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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