High-ly intelligent too.
Posted on 01/06/2014 10:39:46 AM PST by LouAvul
“when you buy a firearm via a licensed dealer”
Actually, legally, ALL private gun sales now have to use this form via a licensed dealer as well because of the BS laws the kommies passed last year. It doesn’t look like many people are bothering to comply though.
So, legally, no one who smokes pot in Colorado can legally buy a gun in Colorado now. Period.
This is the kind of perfection that Fascists love: turning the entire population into criminals and then selectively enforcing the laws.
I'm told that paranoia is a side effect of some pot smokers.
I heard a radio report that said they wanted to see your drivers license to make a purchase, so yes they have a record.
By "appropriately" you mean to lie on a federal form? I think I'd rather just confine all my gun purchases to private party transactions. They don't (at least in my state) require any paperwork.
I believe CC and bank processors are refusing those transactions (when they know what it is). A new business operating as a pot retailer would never get the account.
You are correct, and you raise a frightening possibility. Imagine a governmental political operative (like those that contributed to OCare) that believes Form 4473 is inadequate - that added language correcting that defect ought to be included in the next 2000 page "Additional Consumer Rights" legislation.
This is a provocative issue because OCare gives us fresh insight as to how such legislation can be passed, to say nothing of the day-to-day lesson in the consequences of such legislation.
Give a stoner a gun and he'll trade it for a bag of Doritos.
Only if you want to buy a gun, keep your job, such things as that.
If you possess a firearm, and smoke pot, you are committing a federal felony. Being a felon makes you disqualified from firearms possession for life, unless you can get the felonly conviction expunged at the federal level. And the feds are all about disarming the public.
High-ly intelligent too.
Same thing with every other state that has a Medical Marijuana law. If you have a medical marijuana card, you cannot legally purchase a firearm from an FFL. And, now that Colorado passed “universal background checks,” even private sales face to face must go thorugh an FFL.
Fools.
I’m unaware of a federal law prohibiting the private transfer of firearms. The left is trying to make it happen, but so far, no dice.
Probably the same reason Cuomo in NY wants pot legalized. Just another way to trip fools up that were all excited about their legal dope.
Some folks around here have been duped.
You're misreading the law. If your transaction takes place via a FFL then you have to fill out the 4473. The 4473 is then placed on file in the gun store's records where they stay for 15 years, then destroyed. The exception is if the gun store goes out of business. Then the gun store turns the 4473 forms over to the ATF.
But federal law still forbids the federal government from accessing those 4473s as any form of "registration."
And the state of Kentucky has no laws requiring you to "register" your firearms. There is no "registration" of firearms in Kentucky.
Now, if you buy a machine gun, that's different. But very few gun owners, comparatively speaking, own machine guns. We can thank (or curse) Ronald Reagan for that. Buying a machine gun definitely requires registering the gun. And the feds also closely monitor the gun owner's activities where tthe machine gun is concerned. But that's a whole different discussion.
You apparantly don't buy and/or sell many guns, do you?
I did not know that. I'm sorry to hear that. I went through that kind of nonsense when I was living in kalifornia. Find an ordinary Joe with a gun I wanted, meet up at a gun store, fill out a ton of paperwork, take a fingerprint, pay the gun store's transfer fees, pay kalifornia's DROS fee, then wait ten days before I could pick up my acquisition. Sometimes it involved a considerable drive as well.
Sorry to hear Colorado did that. I had often dreamed of retiring there, too.
Lex malla, lex nulla. An unconstitutional statute, though it may have the color of law and purport to be law, is void. However, (soto voce) that ancient principle only applies in republics that appreciate the rule of law. Here and now, though, the you-know-who’s can do you-know-what to your dog, then to you, without legal recourse. So prudence dictates that gun owners should stay away from the hemp — or be hanged by it.
If the government lies and disobeys the laws doesn’t that give the people the same privilege?
You play, you pay.
:-)
Someone intended it and a whole lot of someone elses didn't read the fine print.
I used to smoke pot, decades ago. The stuff they have now is gazillions of times more potent.
Pot smokers have a high rate of crazyness.
They can be absolutely just as dangerous as drunks while driving, for instance.
The idea that it is harmless or benign is not only stupid, it’s dangerous.
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