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To: Girlene

While I agree with you completely with regard to the moral equation, I have become convinced it is the passivity of women that prevents any real inroads on legalized abortion.

Sure, you have female activists on both sides, but the one thing they agree on is keeping men on the hook no matter what the woman’s reproductive decision.

Make women stand alone for whatever reproductive choice they make, and those legs will snap shut as reliably as they have throughout history. It’s simple, unequivocal, self-interest.

THAT is the ONLY way abortion can be stopped.


58 posted on 01/09/2014 9:55:21 AM PST by papertyger ("refusing to draw an inescapable conclusion does not qualify as a 'difference of opinion.'")
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To: papertyger

History does not support your position.
Historically women who were pregnant outside of marriage (and also sometimes within marriage) did stand alone. They and their offspring where sanctioned heavily by society.

We have always had the social problem of children being abandoned by one or both parents.

Read up about baby farms in England. Orphanages were full of ‘bastards’ who were then very mistreated by society, even though the had no responsibility for the circumstances of their birth.

Throughout history right up until today it is the children who suffer from the decisions of their parents. And society finds a way to make that acceptable.

In past times children were abandoned and marked for life as ‘bastards’. They grew up in harsh conditions and many did not survive. Today, millions are just eliminated before birth or if born live in poverty with few prospects. But either way, it always comes down to one or both parents not taking responsibility, society not caring and children paying the price.

Legal abortion just masks the problem somewhat from public view. But it is still the same age-old problem of people not taking responsibility for their actions and children suffer as a result.


63 posted on 01/09/2014 10:18:40 AM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: papertyger

“Make women stand alone for whatever reproductive choice they make, and those legs will snap shut as reliably as they have throughout history. It’s simple, unequivocal, self-interest.

THAT is the ONLY way abortion can be stopped.”

Ding ding ding, we have a winner! Any woman who gets pregnant while unmarried, unless she was raped, should have no expectation of child support. It will not happen in this country, but it would solve the problem toot sweet.


64 posted on 01/09/2014 10:23:31 AM PST by Boogieman
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