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Woman who 'bought rare $100,000 Renoir for $7 at flea market' must hand it BACK ...
The Daily Mail Online ^ | January 11, 2014 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 01/11/2014 12:58:24 PM PST by Uncle Chip

to Baltimore Museum where it was stolen more than 60 YEARS ago

The story began with one of those improbable tales of an artistic masterpiece uncovered at a flea market.

It concluded Friday, the painting still a masterpiece but the story about the flea market all the more improbable.

A federal judge has awarded ownership of a disputed Renoir painting to a Baltimore museum, citing 'overwhelming evidence' that the painting had been stolen from the museum more than 60 years ago.

The judge's decision rejected the claims of a Virginia woman, Marcia 'Martha' Fuqua, who maintained that she bought the painting at a flea market for $7, even as others, including her own brother, disputed her story....

As it turned out, Fuqua's mother, who used the name Marcia Fouquet, was an artist who specialized in reproducing paintings from Renoir and other masters, and who had extensive links to Baltimore's art community in the 1950s.

In addition, Fuqua's brother, Owen 'Matt' Fuqua, told a Washington Post reporter that he had seen the painting in the family home numerous times, well before his sister supposedly bought it in 2009, though Matt Fuqua changed his story several times subsequently....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: art; baltimore; fuqua; maryland; renoir; theft; virginia
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To: GeronL
after all these years the insurer basically gave them the ownership back, I got it

Hmmm... an interesting question.

As a former (tax) accountant, I wonder about the accounting involved in the original loss. The insurance company paid the museum for the loss and, in return, created an asset on their books, the asset being the value of the rights to the stolen artwork. Over time, I suppose the insurance company would depreciate that value since the odds of recovering the stolen artwork would decrease over time. Still, there should be some residual value.

After 60 years, the residual value of the stolen artwork would be negligible, but they could not write it down to zero. So... I suppose donating the negligible rights back to the museum could be a publicity thing. Or, maybe more likely, an incentive for the museum company to keep insuring with them. And that would allow the insurance company to clean up their books.

It'd be interesting to find out how often this occurs in the insurance industry. I'm not even sure what to google to discover that!

81 posted on 01/11/2014 5:23:27 PM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Admin Moderator

Is there a list of what sources don’t belong in the news forum, for future reference?


82 posted on 01/11/2014 5:28:31 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12----No king but Christ! Don't tread on me!)
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To: P-Marlowe
Is this forum FREE REPUBLIC or Democrat Underground?

That's going to leave a mark.

83 posted on 01/11/2014 6:21:42 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: JoeProBono
I don't know much about art, but I know what's funny.


84 posted on 01/11/2014 6:24:12 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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To: P-Marlowe
....then why in the heck do we allow any stories in the News Forum?

Exactly. Let's just shut the whole News Forum down and post everything under Gossip. ;-)

85 posted on 01/11/2014 6:32:19 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Jeff Chandler

I have two newspapers that are apps on my I-phone. One is my local paper and the other is The Daily Mail.

If the Daily Mail isn’t considered a reliable news source, then what would you call the New York Times?


86 posted on 01/11/2014 6:33:32 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Jeff Chandler

87 posted on 01/11/2014 6:45:13 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Admin Moderator
Read this and tell me it's "crap" rather than outstanding investigative reporting:

BBC's six-year cover-up of secret 'green propaganda' training for top executives

88 posted on 01/11/2014 6:55:13 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: matt04

Daily Mail is awesomely good!


89 posted on 01/11/2014 7:02:49 PM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Uncle Chip

I enjoy a lot of the impressionist and fauve era paintings, but this piece here looks like a leftover palette after working on some other painting. This is what happens when I wipe my oil, and turpentine soaked brushes off on a paper Kleenex. One man’s junque is another man’s ambrosia, right?


90 posted on 01/11/2014 7:15:07 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Uncle Chip

agree, when something big happens here in the US (or anywhere else), the DM is now one of the sites I check. Far more info given than from the Obama-Press-Corp.

I never would have believed that even Pravda would have more info than the MSM-Obama-Press-Corp. What a topsy turvy world?


91 posted on 01/11/2014 7:21:11 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: GeronL

Whoever has legal title to it. That could well be the insurance company. Either way, she should have known better to fight it when she clearly had no title. Maybe she could sue her attorney for malpractice.


92 posted on 01/11/2014 8:05:38 PM PST by wideawake
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To: lee martell
This is what happens when I wipe my oil, and turpentine soaked brushes off on a paper Kleenex.

That must explain why the painting is no larger than a napkin.

Renoir must have been using a napkin it to clean his brushes and then it just appeared out of nowhere -- voila!!! a Renoir!!!.

93 posted on 01/11/2014 8:47:24 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Interesting Times

That is an unbelievable article that needs to be posted in the NEWS FORUM.


94 posted on 01/11/2014 8:51:10 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Admin Moderator

What’s the problem with Daily Mail posts? Some stories may be “crap”, whatever that means but they have stories that lead to info that is hard to find at U.S. websites.


95 posted on 01/11/2014 10:22:18 PM PST by zorkon128
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To: usconservative
Exactly. Let's just shut the whole News Forum down and post everything under Gossip. ;-)

That might not change much. To an increasing extent I'm relying upon ping lists rather than noticing which forum an article is under.

96 posted on 01/12/2014 5:54:14 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: zorkon128
What’s the problem with Daily Mail posts? Some stories may be “crap”, whatever that means but they have stories that lead to info that is hard to find at U.S. websites.

As I and others have noted up-thread, the issue is not that DM has "crap" articles (every paper does), it's that FReepers post so many of the crap articles that it's given the Mod the impression that DM only has crap.

The solution is for FReepers to post fewer articles in the "News" forums that, while technically "news", have little relevance to conservatism.

97 posted on 01/12/2014 6:19:27 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
To an increasing extent I'm relying upon ping lists rather than noticing which forum an article is under.

I think most folks are smart enough to figure out how they want to receive content here on FR. Whether it's ping lists, looking only at certain groups, or searching for posts by fellow Freepers who have a history of posting or replying to interesting articles themselves.

As long as YOU are the one choosing what you see, rather than someone else attempting to make that choice for you, it's all good. I've had people add me to their ping lists without my permission or consent who've then gotten rather hostile after I've asked them to remove me, as I had not ASKED to be on their ping list. They get quite "snippy" and act as if they were doing me a favor when in fact they're distracting from how I prefer to receive content here on FR. Thankfully that's happened only about a handful of times since I've been on FR dating back to 1998.

98 posted on 01/12/2014 7:24:54 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: PapaBear3625
By that logic, there are quite a number of exhibits in museums that are stolen property, according to the governments of the countries of origin.

Yes, and you do occasionally see this happen in the real world. It's not logic so much as what the law requires.

99 posted on 01/13/2014 9:25:08 AM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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