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Figuring out the Liberal Mind

Posted on 01/12/2014 2:26:26 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I wonder if any Freepers are aware of Jon Haidt. His theories explain a lot and explain why we are in this current battle of Freedom vs. Fairness.

He is a self-identified liberal so don’t let your friends when you explain this to them get away with saying he is a right wing wacko.

Basically he has found that there what he calls “Moral Foundations” that humans everywhere subscribe to. These are in our makeups, and we filter information to fit them into our moral foundation.

Basically there are 5 of these:

1)Care/Harm

2)Fairness/Cheating

3)Loyalty/Betrayal

4) Authority/Anarchy

5)Purity/Hedonism

Everybody is born with these because of the human survival instinct. But instead of weighting these all the same the every human falls into 2 ways of attaching importance to these moral foundations.

The liberal attaches more weight to these foundations starting with care/harm the most important and decreasing from there to the lowest which is purity/hedonism. The conservative weighs them all equally.

If you keep this in mind, like a decoder ring liberals start making sense. The irony is by making "Do no harm" and "Fairness" the only things they think are important causes a lot of harm and unfairness because this approach is too simplistic.

Moral Foundations Theory

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Foundations_Theory

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TED Talk: Jonathan Haidt on the moral roots of liberals and conservatives [video]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlj9za_ted-talk-jonathan-haidt-on-the-moral-roots-of-liberals-and-conservatives_news

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The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion

Jonathan Haidt (Author)

http://www.amazon.com/Righteous-Mind-Divided-Politics-Religion-ebook/dp/B0052FF7YM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389552628&sr=8-1&keywords=haidt


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: liberalagenda; progressiveagenda

1 posted on 01/12/2014 2:26:26 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

They want to be the ones running the prison and they want everyone else to be prisoners.


2 posted on 01/12/2014 2:28:20 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

They do...but there will always be a them and an us. ‘Tis human nature...that’s why history repeats itself.


3 posted on 01/12/2014 2:31:05 PM PST by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Dana Loesch: From Liberal To Conservative
4 posted on 01/12/2014 2:31:34 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Mia San Mia)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

My theory is that liberals are people stuck in arrested development. They are mentally, teenagers. And nobody’s forcing them to grow up.

They are perpetual teenagers. Hyper-idealistic not caring about how things really are in the real world. Expecting others to take care of them, but only when they want it, and don’t ever judge them (but give them stuff). Wanting to play house, play being adults, but be shielded only from the negative consequences, and be the sole reaper of any good consequences and fortune.

These are people that want “society” to be their parents, they want society to shelter them if they get into trouble, they want society to force others to do stuff, but they don’t want society to force them to do anything they don’t want to do.

They have stopped in their progression to being a complete, total adult person, who takes full responsibility for their actions, good or bad, has no problem with others taking care of their wants and needs, and feels like they deserve and are entitled to this kind of care. They are perpetual adolescents and they are trapped there. Reality and the real world being on your own, is what forms the final step into adulthood. these people have never been forced to make/take this final step in natural human existence.


5 posted on 01/12/2014 2:37:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
They play monopoly with economics. There is no common sense reality to pay for anything.

Democrats also have a huge racism issue among their minorities.

6 posted on 01/12/2014 2:42:47 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Figuring out the Liberal "Mind"

I'd use an analogy-by-art approach. Study a lot of abstract art and paradox drawings like Escher and so on, as well as fridge pics by first graders (no insult intended, first graders). That should give you an idea what the inside of a liberal mind is like, as well as the perception from in there.

7 posted on 01/12/2014 2:50:29 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Liberals are mean, vicious, vindictive and hateful. I don’t see where you get off thinking they are on the caring side. They only care about themselves.

You want to figure out where a liberal gets his ideas? They start with the premise that there is no God except themselves and end up worshiping the State.

Liberalism is a religion. The further a man gets from God the closer he gets to a liberal mindset.


8 posted on 01/12/2014 2:57:25 PM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Nice description.

My addition would be that that arrested development is no accident - it’s carefully engineered, maintained and directed.


9 posted on 01/12/2014 2:57:39 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Fear.

At root, they're collectively afraid of their own shadows.
It paralyzes any vestigial common sense.
Hence their donning kneepads for most anyone/anything promising to 'protect' them.

The old adage is unable to penetrate their trembling self-loathing:


     Courage isn't the lack of fear, it's the willingness to act in spite of it

10 posted on 01/12/2014 2:58:07 PM PST by tomkat
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To: tomkat

I like that one, too. Fear is their root - literally insane levels of fear, that sane people cannot comprend. Unfortunately liberals use their fear as justification to protect it, rather than defeat it.


11 posted on 01/12/2014 3:04:59 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Liberals regard themselves as elite as well as better educated and informed than most people. Liberal policies are all about “helping” the majority who are seen as incapable of making the “right” decisions in their lives...hence liberal policies force us to buy the “right” light bulbs,cars, healthcare etc. Liberals are intollerent and regard anyone who does not follow their world view as stupid, racists, bigoted, deniers, mind numbed robots who listen to Rush and homophobes. Liberals would readily agree to censorship of all but the “right” ideas, forcing those who do not agree to conform and have no idea about the concepts of individual liberty and limited government.


12 posted on 01/12/2014 3:07:06 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

A lot of people completely blow off my explanation of “liberals” because it seems reactionary and about 20 other adjectives. But people should really think about this.

Non liberals look at the greenies crying around trees as in the famous youtube video and think ‘Those people are crazy; They look at Occupy Wall Street hipsters and think they are just clueless trust funders; they look at their next door neighbors who are ‘just like you and me’ but vote Democrat and say to themselves “Well... they are intelligent people that just don’t U N D E R S T A NnnnnnnnDddddddd...

Well, in part that is kindasorta part of it. But it’s the symptom of the real problem. Liberals are at their core, evil. Well and truly, textbook/look up the definition EVIL.

Don’t stop reading. Think it through. This thread talks about morality and how liberals prioritize it. Well, look at the facts. And yes, they are FACTS because every day, on every subject they take the most evil of all possible positions and outcomes.

Pick any of the 7 deadly sins. I promise you that IMMEDIATELY upon uttering them one by one, an image will flash into your mind showing an example of a liberal committing it. In fact, you will be flooded by memories of liberals committing them.

Now I do not intend for this to be a religious screed, but morality is part and parcel of religion. And what do liberals fight hardest to destroy? Yup. Religion. So it cannot be separated.

That said, Non liberals are not perfect. We screw up like everyone else. But who is responsible for the most rapes? People of a liberal bent or people of a non liberal philosophy? Who commits the vast majority of murders? Robbery? Assault?

Is it the church lady that forces transgender education and restrooms on the grade school kids of the world or the WoymnZ studies grad? Is it the Duck Dynasty rednecks of the world that push for the surveillance state tactics we now live under or the children of the 60s and their wannabee hangers on from the current generation? Is it the political right that do everything in their power to delegitimize Israel and any other country that does not follow State Dept edicts on homosexuality, or the ‘radical right wing nutjob”?

Evil is a concept, but it is also an action. And concepts are meaningless unless acted upon. So it’s really simple. Who is committing the ridiculously disproportionate actions of evil in the world today?

Well, the FACTS show that it’s people who follow the tennets of liberalism...be they marxist, socialist or Hatian Voodoo.

So the next time you hear someone tell you that such and such person is ‘really a good person’ and that they are just like you and I...well, all I can tell you is that ‘good people’ don’t willingly empower evil. No matter if they are your next door neighbor or not.


13 posted on 01/12/2014 3:16:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Figuring out the liberal mind

In order to figure out the liberal mind, one has to determine whether or not a liberal even HAS a mind to begin with. I am not convinced they do.

14 posted on 01/12/2014 3:25:24 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71a)
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To: GeronL

The slave toiling in the field doesn’t yearn for freedom. He yearns to be the one wielding the lash.


15 posted on 01/12/2014 3:29:37 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Isn’t “liberal mind” a contradiction in terms?


16 posted on 01/12/2014 3:31:16 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
I have been turning this over in my head since I entered this thread, and can see the basic flaw in this "logical" liberal thinking (I know...any oxymoron, but I digress...)

The basic flaw is encoded in this statement below, but what these statement REALLY does is highlight the cleavage between conservatism and liberalism:

"...Basically he has found that there what he calls “Moral Foundations” that humans everywhere subscribe to. These are in our makeups, and we filter information to fit them into our moral foundation..."

LIBERALS BELIEVE ALL PEOPLE ARE INHERENTLY GOOD, AND IF THEY ARE NOT, IT IS BECAUSE OF AN EFFECT SOCIETY HAS HAD ON THEM. CONSERVATIVES BELIEVE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE BAD, THAT NO AMOUNT OF REMEDIATION OR REHABILITATION IS GOING TO CHANGE THEM, AND THAT ANY PERSONAL OR GOVERNMENTAL INSTITUTION MUST TAKE THAT DIFFERENCE INTO ACCOUNT.

It is why the US Constitution is such a brilliant document...and why the founders were equally as gifted in their creation of it. They KNEW what tyranny was, and they knew that if they let the inherent good of human nature guide our government, it was going to founder on the rocks of that assumption, because there are humans who not only NOT be guided by an inherent good, but will go as far as to take advantage of a populace that believes that a ruling class has inherent good in it.

Secondly, liberals are full of hot air when they utilize terms such as Care, Fairness, Loyalty, Authority, and Purity. To the uninitiated (in our unfortunate case, the lazy and uninformed electorate, or the "sheeple" as they may be labeled) these terms are self evident.

What is WRONG with 'CARING'?

Is FAIRNESS such a wrong goal? Shouldn't things be FAIR?

LOYALTY is a good thing, right?

AUTHORITY is the glue that helps us be a nation of Law and Order, isn't it?

PURITY is an obvious good thing, all people STRIVE to be pure, don't they?

And so, they view these things. They mirror their values onto others, which is bad enough, but what is worse, they have no problem twisting the very words they base their philosophy on in order to suit their ends.

Liberals believe in Utopia, and all means to reach that end are acceptable.

What does 'CARING' actually mean? If you don't believe that illegal immigrants SHOULD get money from taxpaying Americans to get a college education and free health care, then you aren't 'caring'.

FAIRNESS? This is a big one to liberals. Like the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) it can mean anything they want it to mean. And it covers EVERYTHING from minimum wage (why should a CEO get paid 400x what a burger flipper gets?), healthcare (why should American citizens get it, and undocumented workers don't) welfare (people living at the "poverty line" aren't there because of anything THEY did, it isn't FAIR) warfare (it's not fair to use jet fighters and guided weapons to fight enemies who only have guns) and so on. LOYALTY cannot be to a country, soldiers, a constitution, or a flag, but CAN be directed towards a union, a political boss, a despot or a Marxist president.

AUTHORITY means THEIR OWN authority that will help them reach their liberal UTOPIA. ALL actions approved by that loyalty are acceptable, because the ends justifies the means to them, especially when it helps them get closer to whatever their liberal utopia happens to be. Doesn't make a difference if 60 million people have to be murdered as the Communist Chinese did in their attempts to achieve a communist utopia.

And lastly, we come to PURITY. Liberals believe that people cannot help themselves when it comes to certain behavior such as crime, homosexuality and other immoral behavior. Their solution to this to be able to claim PURITY is to simply have no standards whatsoever. If there is no standard to meet, then one cannot be pilloried for not meeting that standard. To Liberals, their biggest crime is hypocrisy, and it is what they attempt to accuse their enemies of at every turn. To avoid having the charge leveled against them, all behavior is acceptable. So, this entire construct is just another attempt to place what they hope is a logical and irrefutable grid or framework on their pathetic and dangerous ideology that allows them to codify it, but like everything else they do, it isn't worth the paper it is written on because it is all just hot air. When you refuse the concession that words have meanings, you can make them mean whatever you WANT them to mean, which is what ALL liberal ideologies have in common.

17 posted on 01/12/2014 3:36:06 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well, there is much truth in what you say. (I live in Massachusetts, so I know full well that truth you wrote)

I truly don’t think all liberals are evil. But I will say this: there is a significant percentage of them that are well and truly evil.

But I believe there is a far larger portion of liberals who are well meaning, but...ignorant.

I use the rule of threes to classify liberals

In the first class of liberals (the one which many run of the mill liberals I know are classified as) are, for lack of a better term, bleeding heart liberals. They’re not bad people, they’re not evil people… they simply arrive at conclusions based on their emotions. These are the kind of people we can talk to, the kind of people you will sometimes hear say things like: “why can’t the government make some money available to people who are down on their luck?” I view them as being basically good people, but either mis-informed or mal-informed.

The second class of liberals are the moonbats. I don’t view these people as being either very intelligent or very thoughtful. They’re the people who drunk the Kool-Aid, and can recite talking points with fevered faces and bulging eyes. I find these people are impossible to talk to because they’re impervious to logic and reason. They believe what they want to believe, and they believe in it passionately, deeply, and with no element of self introspection involved. These are people who fit the bill of the description “Useful Idiots”. They are the ones who will scream the loudest in protest when the Marxists and the true believers take over and push the moonbats into the reeducation camps with all the rest of us. “But I agree with you! I’m not like the rest of these people! Why are you doing this?”

The third class of liberals are the true, hard-core believers. They not only know the writings of Saul Alinsky, but understand what his tactics mean and how they are used. They don’t believe in the garbage that the moonbats subscribe to. These people believe in raw, unadulterated possession of power. There is no compromise and no negotiation with these people that will be fruitful. These people are true enemies of the American way of life. Most of these people (if not all) hate this country and all it stands for, and wish to see it transformed into their vision under their control. THESE PEOPLE ARE TRULY EVIL, and they will justify it as being “for the greater good”.


18 posted on 01/12/2014 3:44:54 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel

“They’re not bad people, they’re not evil people…”

Sure they are. They support the killing of children via abortion on a whim. That’s evil.

Their bleeding heart BS lead to a number of suicides and thousands of broken homes in the Pacific NW over a bird. They placed the value of their eco religion over human lives.

Now you say that they didn’t think it through or whatever and that’s how many look at it. But I would say to you that when people in Germany didn’t think Hitler through, the result was what? A lot of evil. Today we look at those people as evil because they willfully ignored the truth around them.

I maintain all liberals are at their core, Evil.


19 posted on 01/12/2014 3:52:53 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: GeronL

“They want to be the ones running the prison and they want everyone else to be prisoners.”

I agree. They are all sorts of personality disordered individuals. I used to read all the psychology stuff, but I’ve been around liberals too long and watched them take over the country by any means possible.

They lie and cheat for power, and hold us to different standards. A great example is the fillibuster. They demanded their rights as the minority, but took ours when they were in power and that’s no big deal to them. Arguments exist only as deflections and blind alleys. They want full power. There is nothing tolerant about them. They are fascists.

Stuff like this article implies that both sides are of goodwill and will play by the rules. That doesn’t happen with them, so who cares why they the way they are?


20 posted on 01/12/2014 4:00:01 PM PST by Luke21
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Well, I'm going to go ahead and give the severely politically incorrect answer. I divide human thinking (among sane people) into two categories: feminine and masculine. The feminine is concerned with the immediate surroundings and immedite gratification (which could translate to hungry - need food now) while the masculine is concerned with the outside world and long-range planning.

Now, in a healthy society, you would have the feminine handling the imediate surroundings (household) and the masculine handling the bigger picture (society at large). The women would say "Hey, the kids are hungry, I'm hungry, we need clothes, the car doesn't run" etc etc and the man would figure out how to take care of these things. The women also demand security, and the men would figure out how take care of that as well. When these forces are in balance, we have a functioning society.

However, we are WAY, WAY, WAY out of balance on these things now, and a huge reason for this is that we have allowed the predominantly feminine half of society to be in charge of the larger picture (the masculine area of responsibility), where their short-range viewpoint does not produce good results when applied to long-range planning. The feminine don't understand the need for a strong military in peacetime, because they only think of short-term, immediate-vicinity goals, so prepring for a possible war decades out and thousands of miles away seems illogical to them.

The liberal voting base is excessively feminine. This includes the men as well as the women. Even the men have embraced feminine thinking, because it is the predominant political philosophy now, and most people are sheep who follow whoever has the lead. Also, some men are just feminine, period. Are they evil? No, but they are easily manipulated by those who ARE evil, because all the evil ones have to do is present the short-term emotional argument and voila, you have instant support. The main proponents of gay marriage, for instance, know damn well that it is a ridiculous idea, but their end goal is not "equality" it is the destruction of American culture and Christianity. Meanwhile, the feminine suckers think they are suppoorting "justice" and "love".

The freaks we see having in-your-face sex parades and vandalizing churches etc. ARE evil, but your average Dem voter doesn't identify with them. Your average Dem voter is a sheep being led around by the Devil.

And, just in case anyone missed my main point: we never shouod have given women the vote. It is not because women are evil, but it is because women, for the most part, do not have the proper world view for running the larger elements of society. They will always choose security over freedom, and will be prone to emotional appeals regardless of how silly and destructive they are.
21 posted on 01/12/2014 4:08:07 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: Luke21

We can spend a lifetime trying to figure out why they do their illogical harmful things but the basic difference between liberals and conservatives is the issue of control. Liberals love to control others. Conservatives just want to be left the hell alone.


22 posted on 01/12/2014 4:18:11 PM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: Norm Lenhart

My 2 cents. I draw a distinction between liberals and leftists, and I despair that so many consider the way the two terms are used amount to nothing but a semantic exercise. If by ‘liberal’ you mean ‘leftist,’ I agree with you...they’re evil. They are rapacious people with a totalitarian impulse, who would be happy with the world as a concentration camp as long as they got to be the guards. I regard liberals as naive idealists. They are people who think that there can be a heaven in this world, and look for human gods to give it to them. Liberals are the livestock of cunning leftists. Leftists understand semantics and the use of language much better than conservatives do, which explains why they make such good use of euphemisms like ‘progressive,’ ‘same-sex’ and ‘undocumented.’ It’s also why they are so dominant in academia and the media. Politics to the left is a study and discipline of how to manipulate the opinions and emotions of the greatest number of people...facts be damned.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 4:21:35 PM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: fr_freak

“No, but they are easily manipulated by those who ARE evil, because ...”

Agree with most of your post but one can either participate in evil or not. The reasons do not matter. Justifications and ignorance do not matter. People saying ‘I didn’t know’ or “I was just following orders” share the responsibility of a given outcome they participated in. The Germans who turned their back on the gassing of the Jews are very much the equivalent of the pusssified men in your example.

They are evil in their actions because they help perpetuate evil. Now one can argue degrees...but evil is evil.

I find that people hate addressing this because they don’t want to say that their liberal ‘friends’ and members of their own families are evil. But it is what it is.


24 posted on 01/12/2014 4:24:16 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

Sorry that we disagree. I don’t agree with your blanket assertion, that is all.

Please don’t take my disagreement personally. I am not saying you can’t believe in that blanket assertion, that is your right. I simply don’t agree with it.


25 posted on 01/12/2014 4:30:39 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: VR-21

Yup, I mean leftist. I make no distinction simply because I don’t see any ‘liberal’ as we used to know them, stand up and attempt to take their name back from the leftists.

I very much believe words mean things. Today, Liberal and Leftist are the same thing. They willingly merged their belief systems to achieve power over the hated right. So they should be treated...in their preferred term ‘equally’.


26 posted on 01/12/2014 4:38:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: rlmorel

I don’t take it personally at all. And I understand your reluctance. It’s not an easy idea to accept. But I ask that you give my posts -serious- thought, as I do everyone reading it. Do your level best to rip the logic behind it apart in your own minds. Seriously, no joke or sarcasm intended.

But I really think that when you remove the emotion of it from the equation and just look at the actual “if/then’ of it, it’s impossible to refute.


27 posted on 01/12/2014 4:44:37 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Liberals have minds?


28 posted on 01/12/2014 4:58:37 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Conservatism is mom and dad and the nice home in the suburbs. Liberalism is when mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge. I think we know what happens next.
29 posted on 01/12/2014 5:00:57 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: jmacusa

the house burns down, the son is arrested for something and the daughter finds out she’s pregnant?


30 posted on 01/12/2014 5:02:08 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Yup. And it’s all mom and dads fault! (and Bush’s too.)


31 posted on 01/12/2014 5:03:56 PM PST by jmacusa ("Chasing God out of the classroom didn't usher in The Age of Reason''.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Thanks for the courteous response...I have been on FR for a while and seen enough personally contentious arguments start that didn’t need to go that way, and didn’t want this discussion to go down that road, so...thanks. I certainly didn’t mean it as an attack on you or your point of view.

I sometimes engage in the exercise of viewing things as a black and white in order to find the endpoints, and then look at where a cleavage point exists along a continuum between the two.

For example, take abortion.

You can take one end of the spectrum and say that once the sperm has penetrated the egg and division occurs, then any action to stop further division is immoral and wrong.

The other end of that spectrum would be people who believe that a pregnancy can be “terminated” at any point from the egg dividing once to the last toe of the infant still being inside the mothers’s body during birth.

Once the two ends have been defined, one can look along that continuum to see where the cleavage point occurs, a rule can be defined, and the system can be converted into a black and white situation, at least from my own viewpoint. On one side, you are against abortion. On the other side, you are for it. It is a cleavage point.

But it isn’t always easy or even possible to do. I have tried to do this with liberals, because I simply don’t think ALL liberals are the same. (I know you disagree with this, but I simply see it differently)

I just cannot always put people who hold a belief in what I might see as as a key liberal trait (be it on immigration, taxes, or the welfare state) in the same class as someone who subscribes to ALL of them, just because I don’t see all issues as being equally damning.

I think you and I are different on this...I am not saying you are wrong and I am right, but I cannot make that leap in the context I described.


32 posted on 01/12/2014 5:10:15 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Norm Lenhart

And by the way, I did read your entire post...I know you probably get people who read to that point and shut off. I made it a point not to succumb to that.


33 posted on 01/12/2014 5:11:32 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Articles that explain how modern liberals suffer from a mental disorder.


34 posted on 01/12/2014 5:24:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I’m sorry, this theory is just too kind to progressive/liberal/Democrat philosophy.

I see their philosophy as consisting of 3 things:

B as in Big. Anything big is ok, big government, big labor, big banks. Individuals are small and therefore to be controlled.

H as in Hate. They hate anyone that does not agree with them. Hence they use personal attacks a lot. How often does a liberal call someone a racist?

O as in Oh shut up! If you don’t agree with them, you have no place in the conversation, you are evil. They will use all the tools of government (i.e. the IRS) as well as the media to silence you.


35 posted on 01/12/2014 5:32:33 PM PST by MS from the OC
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

There is no “figuring out the liberal mind”.


36 posted on 01/12/2014 5:51:50 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

Waste of time.


37 posted on 01/12/2014 6:11:29 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

thanks for this post China...

I saw the Ted talk and i think that ‘those’ people
are not true liberal. Ted was talking about reasonable
people who are liberal. Most of what i see of people who
are called liberals are something other than liberal in the true sense.


38 posted on 01/12/2014 7:20:13 PM PST by urtax$@work (The only kind of memorial is a Burning memorial !)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton; All

http://www.amazon.com/Inside-Criminal-Mind-Revised-Updated/dp/140004619X


39 posted on 01/12/2014 7:20:20 PM PST by PGalt
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To: fr_freak

That is another way to divide it but the gender roles have gone south in our society.

This dichotomy exists in the aborigines of Australia, the Eskimos and everywhere else that Haight has studied.


40 posted on 01/12/2014 7:42:45 PM PST by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

There are decent liberals who want good for people, but have been brainwashed to think that it is government that needs to do that good. Many eventually wake up and become conservatives. It is the communists that are died in the wool and are very dangerous.


41 posted on 01/12/2014 7:51:07 PM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

bkmk


42 posted on 01/13/2014 10:20:47 PM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
Hipsters on Food Stamps

Worth the read, and in a similar vein about motivations and morals.

43 posted on 01/13/2014 10:28:11 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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