Posted on 01/15/2014 4:26:24 PM PST by Kevmo
But I don't expect a scientific illiterate such as yourself to understand that you aren't posting about LENR. If a conman anywhere on the planet claims to be creating hugenormous amounts of energy through some hitherto unknown source of power -- it must be "LENR" as far as Charlatan #1 is concerned.
It wasn’t good enough, because even by the admission of the so called seven independent scientists, they didn’t do ANY SUCH THING.
What we did not do is take the fanciful unicorn droppings of conmen and their clueless enablers and turn it into energy. Ever. And we never will.
You then apply the super-dark-matter-anti-atomic-hydrino conversion formula (which look suspiciously like the ordinary result of electrical power output from the definition of voltage and current) to 1,000,000 / 12,000 and get ... wait for it ... wait for it ... 83 volts.
***Yet another example of your supreme horse manure.
ordinary house voltage will yield a megawatt,
***Where does it say it’s inputting 120V?
Well Kev, this isn’t a LENR thread.
***Yes it is. Your attempt to recruit allies is inappropriate, especially since he said he wouldn’t log onto such a thread.
Me too. Like indictments, and eventual convictions.
OK, let's assume H2O is converted into H'2O. Let's also assume that this substance has energy that can be exploited. What is the "exhaust" of such a system?
It can't be much else than H and O, I would presume (and hope - even if we can transmute them into something else, we'll run out of water.) Or maybe H'. What happens to them after that? How will we get the water back? What mechanism would *add* energy that we extracted to produce the water?
The article does not talk about it, saying instead "just take more water." But there is only so much water on Earth. We must have a process that converts the exhaust back into water; and if we extracted energy from water, the laws of physics tell us that someone has to spend energy to recreate the water. What is the source of that energy?
It may be, of course, "dark matter" and "dark energy," but then I'd like to see a 1 GW power plant first. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
10MW/10000 homes = 1000 Watts per home.
I suggest you actually read and try to understand the proposed mechanism for the Hydrobogus Generator,
***I’m in the process. I gather the hydrobogus generator comes from the same bogus post grad science degrees you claim to possess.
which according to the nonsensical “theory” posited by its “inventor” involves atomic states of electrons.
***In the end, it is still fusion. The lower energy states of supposed hydrinos allows them to overcome the Coulomb barrier, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand that.
In other words, it is not “nuclear” — HIGH ENERGY, LOW ENERGY, or EVEN MIDDLE ENERGY at all.
***Yet another one of your logical fallacies. It’s low energy because it’s far less energy than the fusion in stars.
But I don’t expect a scientific illiterate such as yourself
***Well, ETFOOM. I know a postgrad Harvard nukular physicist who has trouble understanding this theory, so you’re throwing an awfully wide swath of people under the bus, along with all the others in the past you have done such as Mitsubishi, Toyota, SPAWAR, Scientific Instruments, ELFORSK, and multiple PHD nuke physicsts.
to understand that you aren’t posting about LENR. If a conman anywhere on the planet claims to be creating hugenormous amounts of energy through some hitherto unknown source of power — it must be “LENR” as far as Charlatan #1 is concerned.
***It’s been LENR for a long time with Mills. You’re just unaware of the facts on the ground. As usual.
Whatever happened to that LENR guy (Rossi?)? When is his sh!t going to hit the market?
From the article:
catalytically converts the hydrogen of the H2O-based solid fuel into a non-polluting product, lower-energy state hydrogen called Hydrino, by allowing the electrons to fall to smaller radii around the nucleus.
That means he claims to be forcing electrons into lower energy states. That makes it a chemical process. LENR involves nucleons -- neutrons, protons, and the strong nuclear force. It does not involve electrons, and even if the weak nuclear force were involved, which can produce electrons, he is talking about the atomic electron orbitals of hydrogen. It's CHEMISTRY. NOT LENR.
Can you even read?
Never. Rossi is a convicted conman and the E-Cat is a hoax.
That was what I was hinting at. I’m pretty sure this new guy is of the same cloth.
You like Wiki? Read it and weep: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight_Power#Analysis_of_Mills.27_models
Seldom have scientists heaped so much scorn on anyone. Not even Pons and Fleischmann got this level of derision.
I especially like this one, which goes straight to the heart of these claims:
"BlackLight Power (BLP), founded 17 years ago as HydroCatalysis, announced last week that the company had successfully tested a prototype power system that would generate 50 KW of thermal power. BLP anticipates delivery of the new power system in 12 to 18 months [this, by the way, was in 2008, well over 12-18 months ago.] The BLP process,[49] discovered by Randy Mills, is said to coax hydrogen atoms into a "state below the ground state," called the "hydrino." There is no independent scientific confirmation of the hydrino, and BLP has a patent problem. So they have nothing to sell but bull shit. The company is therefore dependent on investors with deep pockets and shallow brains."
There is also an absolutely delicious quote from a Princeton Physics Nobel Laureate, which is even better, but the language is so deprecating I can't even post it on FR without getting banned.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3112114/posts?q=1&;page=51#53
Oops. Should be 55, not 53.
Amps in -—> Watts out.
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