BlackLight Power Announces Generation of Millions of Watts of Power

http://www.financialpost.com/markets/news/BlackLight+Power+Announces+Game+Changing+Achievement+Generation+Millions/9384649/story.html ^

[Political Junkie Too]

Great... just as Obama grabs all the rights to America's water...

-PJ

[Wonder Warthog]

"No doubt Wonder Warthog [aka Charlatan #2] will be weighing in shortly to tell us the Hydrogenies have been seen "over 14,000 times" by various "highly qualified researchers" and "only not seen one time" by failed haoxers at MIT."

Ah, Fred. As accurate as ever. I have NEVER on any LENR thread (which this is not) used the "...14000 times..." factoid.

[Wonder Warthog]

"So, BLP has something to demo. Let’s see what happens on the 28th."

Now THERE is the attitude of the honest skeptic. Wait for the data.

"Is the BLP process even LENR or is it something else?"

BLP itself says it is not.

[Wonder Warthog]

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."

Nope. Science has no such requirement. Replicated experiments as normal.

[Nifster]

well said

[Nifster]

oooh shoot and now you want to confuse us all with facts and science… how rude/s

[Nifster]

very nicely played… Kevmo probably doesn’t even know what an eigenstate is

[Nifster]

How much work did they do with all that wattage???

I can generate million of watts also if I spend a lot of time dragging my socked feet across the rug and then discharging little lightning sparks doesn’t mean much in the big scheme of things.

[SunkenCiv]

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/hydrino/index

[Nifster]

Answers to your so called proof that it is real "Experiments[edit] In 1996 NASA released a report describing experiments using a BLP electrolytic cell. Although not recreating the large heat gains reported for the cell by BLP, unexplained power gains ranging from 1.06 to 1.68 of the input power were reported that whilst "...admit[ing] the existence of an unusual source of heat with the cell...falls far short of being compelling".[34] Around 2002 the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts (NIAC) granted a Phase I grant to Anthony Marchese, a mechanical engineer at Rowan University, to study a possible rocket propulsion that would use hydrinos. [35] In 2005: Šišović and others published a paper describing experimental data and analysis of Mills' claim that a resonant transfer model (RTM) explains the excessive Doppler broadening of the Hα line. Šišović concluded that: "The detected large excessive broadening in pure hydrogen and in Ne–H2 mixture is in agreement with CM [Collision Model] and other experimental results" and that "these results can’t be explained by RTM". The collision model explanation for excessive broadening of the Hα line is based on established physics.[36] Analysis of Mills' models[edit] In 2005, the Journal of Applied Physics published a critique by A.V. Phelps of the 2004 article, "Water bath calorimetric study of excess heat generation in resonant transfer plasmas" by J. Phillips, R. Mills and X. Chen.[37] Phelps criticized both the calorimetric techniques and the underlying theory described in the Phillips/Mills/Chen article. The journal also published a response to Phelps' critique on the same day.[38] In a paper published in Physics Letters A, Norman Dombey concluded that Mills' theoretical hydrino states are unphysical. For the hydrino states, the binding strength increases as the strength of the electric potential decreases, with maximum binding strength when the potential has disappeared completely, where Dombey remarked "We could call these anomalous states "homeopathic" states because the smaller the coupling, the larger the effect." The model also assumes that the nuclear charge distribution is a point rather than having an arbitrarily small non-zero radius. It also lacks an analogous solution in the Schrödinger equation, which governs non-relativistic systems. Dombey concluded: "We suggest that outside of science fiction this is sufficient reason to disregard them."[39] From a suggestion in Dombey's paper, further work by Antonio Di Castro has shown that states below the ground state, as described in Mills' work, are incompatible with the Schrödinger, Klein-Gordon and Dirac equations, key equations in the study of quantum systems.[40] The Journal of Physics D: Applied Physics published an article by Hans-Joachim Kunze, professor emeritus at the Institute for Experimental Physics, Ruhr University Bochum,[41] critical of the 2003 paper authored by R. Mills and P. Ray, Extreme ultraviolet spectroscopy of helium–hydrogen. The abstract of the article is: "It is suggested that spectral lines, on which the fiction of fractional principal quantum numbers in the hydrogen atom is based, are nothing else but artefacts." Kunze stated that it was impossible to detect the novel lines below 30 nm reported by Mills and Ray because the equipment they used did not have the capability to detect them as per the manufacturer and as per "every book on vacuum-UV spectroscopy" and "therefore the observed lines must be artefacts". Kunze also stated that: "The enormous spectral widths of the novel lines point to artefacts, too."[42]" And Fred I love what the fellow from Princeton was quoted as saying…. priceless

[ModelBreaker]

“great! where can i buy one?”

They’re running a special at Loews. Buy one hydrino machine and you get a bushel of dark matter for free.

[Kevmo]

Supposedly, you can buy a unit for $1.5M

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3105430/posts

[Kevmo]

That makes it a chemical process.
***That would make me happier than a dog with 2 cocks. Then if it isn’t a nukular process, the NRC wouldn’t be involved in the signoff process.

[FredZarguna]

They’re running a special at Loews. Buy one hydrino machine and you get a bushel of dark matter for free.

Yes! You can buy these wonderful machines. However, because they involve dark energy and dark matter, they also involve a hitherto little used financing method called "dark credit."

Unlike conventional credit, where you obtain the commodity and pay for it over time with interest, with Hydrogino technology, you pay millions up front, and then in just "12 to 18 months" you will receive your dark energy Hydroteeny generator.

Although this is NOT A LENR THREAD^TM a number of cold fusion generators have also been funded with "dark credit." Unfortunately, like the Hydrobogus device, the payoff period often involves another new concept, called "dark time," during which 12-18 months never arrives.

[FredZarguna]

Not even going to speculate on why that would make you happy.

But rest assured, no government agency except those involved in criminal prosecutions is ever going to be involved with this product.

[Nifster]

I like it… this thread has brought me many chuckles this evening

[Kevmo]

Can you even read?
***How about we start by reading your bowlsheet?

r-energy state hydrogen called “Hydrino”, by allowing the electrons to fall to smaller radii around the nucleus.
***And then you conveniently neglect that this lowers the Coulomb barrier so that nukular fusion is far more possible in condensed matter.

That means he claims to be forcing electrons into lower energy states. That makes it a chemical process. LENR involves nucleons — neutrons, protons, and the strong nuclear force. It does not involve electrons,
***One of the latest theories involves electron capture in the process of lowering the Coulomb barrier. It sure SOUNDS like the LENR process could involve neutrons (having been detected), Protons (One of the theories is proton capture_) and the strong nuke force. And don’t forget the weak nuke force, which is the Widom-Larson theory, not that you would be familiar with it.

and even if the weak nuclear force were involved, which can produce electrons, he is talking about the atomic electron orbitals of hydrogen. It’s CHEMISTRY. NOT LENR.
***Sounds like you’re making some obscure point that doesn’t make one whit of difference, since in the end, even Mills proposes that nukular events are taking place. You don’t seem to know much. Maybe it’s you who can’t read.

[Kevmo]

Nobody has any trouble “understanding the theory,” because there isn’t one.
***There are dozens of LENR theories, just like there are many theories of gravity (no generally accepted theory yet) and several theories of condensed matter High temp superconductivity (no generally accepted theory yet). But that doesn’t stop you from jumping on gravitational science and superconductivity threads and loudly displaying your scientific ignorance.

[FredZarguna]

even Mills proposes that nukular events are taking place

Citation?

[Aqua225]

Another free energy scam...

You know that a teenager in a basement with a surplus capacitor bank can generate a 1MW pulse, right? 12,000 Amps at 170V is over 2MW (170VDC being available from rectified 120V mains). At 20A, it will take a while to charge this bank, but not all that long, if the required output pulse is very short.

The problem here is that putting 12KW through water, just causes electrolysis of the water (or perhaps even plain old disassociation at that power level due to quick formation of superheated plasma). The catalyst would pretty much instantly boil away, even our most exotic metals & compounds. It would only take a few Joules for that. Then the high temperature region formed by the plasma arc, simply ignites the oxy-hydrogen fuel mixture and bam, big output power pulse, post input.

Notice that they didn’t give a output ratio here of Joules in to Joules out. Using Watts in to Watts out is a easy way of cloaking energy consumption and production.

Way to think of this: you can charge a capacitor bank with a 5W hand generator. Depending on the capacity, this could take a while. But you could still generate a megawatt output pulse from that bank. But the output duration will be very short. This is what these folks did, IMO. Just very careful wording of a press release to make things sound better than they are, and the gullible just eat it up.