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To: Rusty0604

Good article. It is a grave mistake to let any law enforcement officer search your car, your home, or any of your belongings without a paper (viewable) signed search warrant. People need to be seriously disabused of the notion that you’re going to be a nice, good citizen and let the police search you, thinking, “What do I have to hide?”

Nonsense! No probable cause, no search warrant — NO SEARCH — ever!

When will people learn?


3 posted on 01/16/2014 10:49:52 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Obadiah

Just politely say no, followed by “lawyer” if it goes south.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 10:54:55 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Obadiah
There are tons of videos out there like this one

What would you have done differently?

9 posted on 01/16/2014 10:57:49 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Obadiah

I think there was just a court decision that a federal officer can do suspicionless search and seizure on any vehicle within a hundred miles of the border (which covers almost all of Florida). Extrapolation to State and Local officers should be easy in Court.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 11:00:32 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: Obadiah; Rusty0604

Don’t Talk to Police
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc


18 posted on 01/16/2014 11:17:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Obadiah

The wife was very unhelpful. The best place for people to start is to make sure they have their stories straight at all times. Apparently the driver in this case chose not to carry, but then didn’t tell the Mrs. Poor form.


30 posted on 01/16/2014 11:37:43 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Obadiah

Just a guess here but even if he cancels his CCW, he now is “KNOWN” to have firearms and it may or may not stay on his “permanent” record. Just guessin’ but there may be folks who obtained a CCW using a borrowed firearm and for some reason or other never actually obtained a firearm of their own. Are they now “tagged” as well? And would the “authorit-is” believe them if they were told that?


37 posted on 01/16/2014 11:56:23 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: Obadiah

I’m not sure if this press accounts mention it, but the wife’s big fat mouth gave them plenty of probably cause to search.


38 posted on 01/16/2014 12:04:30 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Obadiah

Got pulled over in TN for speeding. 3 year old in back seat in child booster seat. Child seat was raised up on a cardboard box filled with papers. Box was about 3-4” high and bigger than the seat. I put it there so son could look out window between FL and OH as it was a long drive.

Anyway state cop says “what’s up with the child seat? Mind if I look in your car and make sure that seat is secure?” Exact quote.

I said OK.

He immediately opened the front passenger door and started looking under the seat.

I immediately said “what the hell are you doing?” And he replied,”sir, you gave me consent to search your car. Are you now revoking that consent?”

I said “you asked to look at the seat, not search me!”

Long story short: no continued search but three tickets - speeding, improper restraint and tv screen in view of driver. Winnie the Pooh was playing on a mini DVD player on console wedged between the seats.

They are trained to weasel consent searches any way they can.

And make life very painful in you refuse.


42 posted on 01/16/2014 12:45:11 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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