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If ID Theorists Are Right, How Should We Study Nature?
Evolution News and Views ^ | January 23, 2014 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 01/23/2014 9:19:28 AM PST by Heartlander

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To: tacticalogic

>> equally rigourous and objective

A fallacy right there. Science is quite political and subjective — not to say all its practitioners are primarily motivated by politics and subjectivity.


41 posted on 01/23/2014 8:02:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
A fallacy right there. Science is quite political and subjective — not to say all its practitioners are primarily motivated by politics and subjectivity.

It can get that way, but it's not supposed to. No one can be perfectly objective, but if you replace the process with something even more subjective it's going to make it worse, not better.

42 posted on 01/23/2014 8:08:14 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

>> it’s not supposed to

Agreed.


43 posted on 01/23/2014 8:19:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MHGinTN

I did a search. That came up. It sounded hokey to start with. No need to get testy. Do you have any good sources for your belief?


44 posted on 01/23/2014 9:06:50 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

How about Buzz Aldrin? ... Oh, never mind. You’re one of the Mormonism apologist trap setters. I don’t respect you enough to give you information. And you come across as having zero research on the matter.


45 posted on 01/23/2014 10:09:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Heartlander

I’m impressed and surprised. That all does sound like actual scientific research—good for the Discovery Institute. Of course, they face the flip side of the problem they accuse “secular” scientists of: will they be able to acknowledge that there is no evidence of a designer if none is found? Or if the work produces an explanation that doesn’t require a designer? We’ll see. In the meantime, like I said, good for them.


46 posted on 01/24/2014 12:51:35 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: MHGinTN

Well, I guess if Buzz said so, then it must be true. Him being a spaceman and all. You have a lot of irrational beliefs, no?


47 posted on 01/24/2014 5:11:43 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You’re in a pissin’ match that nobody’s gonna win, and everyone end up wet.


48 posted on 01/24/2014 5:13:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Coincidence?

I thought the aliens wanted us to stay away from Titan, but it was Phobos all along.


49 posted on 01/24/2014 6:59:02 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Just as long as the Klingons stay away from Uranus.
Sorry... couldn’t resist.


50 posted on 01/24/2014 7:00:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MHGinTN

Please, please, please share with me your arcana on Phobos.

I want to go with you to the hollow moon base, but only if I get a decoder ring.

Do they have lasers or blasters and what’s the difference?


51 posted on 01/24/2014 7:01:22 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: circlecity

Ah, the old “not necessarily true” gambit.


52 posted on 01/24/2014 7:02:05 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Think rifle vs shotgun and you’ll understand.


53 posted on 01/24/2014 7:02:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: circlecity

Actually, it’s not at all true.
The more we find out about our place here and the conditions necessary for life,

the more it looks like the Earth is unique.

Even given the number of stars that we conjecture exist, the odds are still greater against even ONE earth existing.


54 posted on 01/24/2014 7:04:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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That’s an AU’s worth of commentary. ;-]


55 posted on 01/24/2014 7:04:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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And didn't take long for you to expose the real agenda, as I noted earlier ... you had in mind only to ridicule. You had a large body of data to select from regarding Phobos but you chose to zero in on Richard Hoaxland, and now you prove what your intentions were but only after lying that you just happened upon the Hoaxland link, innocently. You are the epitome of the Mormonism defenders at FR, shady, twisting, deceivers. But that's not surprising given the religion you espouse and defend.

And that's about all the attention you will get from me at this point. You are outed.

56 posted on 01/24/2014 7:41:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 1010RD
"Ah, the old “not necessarily true” gambit."

I have no idea what you mean by "gambit" in this context. The statement means exactly what it says.

57 posted on 01/24/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: MrB
"Even given the number of stars that we conjecture exist, the odds are still greater against even ONE earth existing"

Agreed. And apart from being the only planet which can likely sustain life, earth is remarkably positioned for the benifit of intelligent life in terms of cosmological study and other intellectual pursuits. The evidence is overwhelming that life on earth was not just a mere chance happening. See the book: "The Privileged Planet"

58 posted on 01/24/2014 8:29:00 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Just (re)watched the vid with my kids last week.

PP book was a great leap for my Walk.


59 posted on 01/24/2014 8:36:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL. Only you know what you’re talking about. Please educate me on Phobos’ potential as an alien artifact. I really mean it. The article I posted was the least kooky one I could find.


60 posted on 01/24/2014 11:40:52 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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