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If ID Theorists Are Right, How Should We Study Nature?
Evolution News and Views ^ | January 23, 2014 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 01/23/2014 9:19:28 AM PST by Heartlander

If ID Theorists Are Right, How Should We Study Nature?

One can at least point a direction by now. I began this series by asking, what has materialism (naturalism) done for science? It made a virtue of preferring theory to evidence, if the theory supports naturalism and the evidence doesn't. Well-supported evidence that undermines naturalism (the Big Bang and fine tuning of the universe, for example) attracted increasingly speculative attempts at disconfirmation. Discouraging results from the search for life on Mars cause us to put our faith in life on exoplanets -- lest Earth be seen as unusual (the Copernican Principle).

All this might be just the beginning of a great adventure. World-changing discoveries, after all, have originated in the oddest circumstances. Who would have expected the Americas to be discovered by people who mainly wanted peppercorns, cinnamon, sugar, and such? But disturbingly, unlike the early modern adventurers who encountered advanced civilizations, we merely imagine them. We tell ourselves they must exist; in the absence of evidence, we make faith in them a virtue. So while Bigfoot was never science, the space alien must always be so, even if he is forever a discipline without a subject.

Then, having acquired the habit, we began to conjure like sorcerer's apprentices, and with a like result: We conjured countless universes where everything and its opposite turned out to be true except, of course, philosophy and religion. Bizarre is the new normal and science no longer necessarily means reality-based thinking.

But the evidence is still there, all along the road to reality. It is still saying what the new cosmologies do not want to hear. And the cost of ignoring it is the decline of real-world programs like NASA in favor of endlessly creative speculation. It turns out that, far from being the anchor of science, materialism has become its millstone.

But now, what if the ID theorists are right, that information rather than matter is the basic stuff of the universe? It is then reasonable to think that meaning underlies the universe. Meaning cannot then be explained away. It is the irreducible core. That is why reductive efforts to explain away evidence that supports meaning (Big Bang, fine-tuning, physical laws) have led to contradictory, unresearchable, and unintelligible outcomes.

The irreducible core of meaning is controversial principally because it provides support for theism. But the alternative has provided support for unintelligibility. Finally, one must choose. If we choose what intelligent design theorist Bill Dembski calls "information realism," the way we think about cosmology changes.

First, we live with what the evidence suggests. Not simply because it suits our beliefs but because research in a meaningful universe should gradually reveal a comprehensible reality, as scientists have traditionally assumed. If information, not matter, is the substrate of the universe, key stumbling blocks of current materialist science such as origin of life, of human beings, and of human consciousness can be approached in a different way. An information approach does not attempt to reduce these phenomena to a level of complexity below which they don't actually exist.

Materialist origin of life research, for example, has been an unmitigated failure principally because it seeks a high and replicable level of order that just somehow randomly happened at one point. The search for the origin of the human race has been similarly vitiated by the search for a not-quite-human subject, the small, shuffling fellow behind the man carrying the spear. In this case, it would have been well if researchers had simply never found their subject. Unfortunately, they have attempted at times to cast various human groups in the shuffler's role. Then gotten mired in controversy, and largely got the story wrong and missed its point.

One would have thought that materialists would know better than to even try addressing human consciousness. But materialism is a totalistic creed or else it is nothing. Current theories range from physicist Max Tegmark's claim that human consciousness is a material substance through to philosopher Daniel Dennett's notion that it is best treated somewhat like "figments of imagination" (don't ask whose) through philosopher Alex Rosenberg's idea that consciousness is a problem that will have to be dissolved by neuroscience. All these theories share two characteristics: They reduce consciousness to something that it isn't. And they get nowhere with understanding what it is. The only achievement that materialist thought can claim in the area of consciousness studies is to make them sound as fundamentally unserious as many current cosmologies. And that is no mean feat.

Suppose we look at the origin of life from an information perspective. Life forms show a much higher level of information, however that state of affairs came about, than non-living matter does. From our perspective, we break no rule if we assume, for the sake of investigation, that the reason we cannot find evidence for an accidental origin of life is that life did not originate in that way. For us, nothing depends one way or the other on demonstrating that life was an accident. We do not earn the right to study life's origin by declaring that "science" means assuming that such a proposition is true and proceeding from there irrespective of consequences. So, with this in mind, what are we to make of the current state of origin-of-life research?

Editor's note: Here is the "Science Fictions" series to date at your fingertips .


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To: tacticalogic

>> equally rigourous and objective

A fallacy right there. Science is quite political and subjective — not to say all its practitioners are primarily motivated by politics and subjectivity.


41 posted on 01/23/2014 8:02:12 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric
A fallacy right there. Science is quite political and subjective — not to say all its practitioners are primarily motivated by politics and subjectivity.

It can get that way, but it's not supposed to. No one can be perfectly objective, but if you replace the process with something even more subjective it's going to make it worse, not better.

42 posted on 01/23/2014 8:08:14 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

>> it’s not supposed to

Agreed.


43 posted on 01/23/2014 8:19:16 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MHGinTN

I did a search. That came up. It sounded hokey to start with. No need to get testy. Do you have any good sources for your belief?


44 posted on 01/23/2014 9:06:50 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

How about Buzz Aldrin? ... Oh, never mind. You’re one of the Mormonism apologist trap setters. I don’t respect you enough to give you information. And you come across as having zero research on the matter.


45 posted on 01/23/2014 10:09:13 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Heartlander

I’m impressed and surprised. That all does sound like actual scientific research—good for the Discovery Institute. Of course, they face the flip side of the problem they accuse “secular” scientists of: will they be able to acknowledge that there is no evidence of a designer if none is found? Or if the work produces an explanation that doesn’t require a designer? We’ll see. In the meantime, like I said, good for them.


46 posted on 01/24/2014 12:51:35 AM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: MHGinTN

Well, I guess if Buzz said so, then it must be true. Him being a spaceman and all. You have a lot of irrational beliefs, no?


47 posted on 01/24/2014 5:11:43 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You’re in a pissin’ match that nobody’s gonna win, and everyone end up wet.


48 posted on 01/24/2014 5:13:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

Coincidence?

I thought the aliens wanted us to stay away from Titan, but it was Phobos all along.


49 posted on 01/24/2014 6:59:02 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Just as long as the Klingons stay away from Uranus.
Sorry... couldn’t resist.


50 posted on 01/24/2014 7:00:41 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MHGinTN

Please, please, please share with me your arcana on Phobos.

I want to go with you to the hollow moon base, but only if I get a decoder ring.

Do they have lasers or blasters and what’s the difference?


51 posted on 01/24/2014 7:01:22 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: circlecity

Ah, the old “not necessarily true” gambit.


52 posted on 01/24/2014 7:02:05 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

Think rifle vs shotgun and you’ll understand.


53 posted on 01/24/2014 7:02:15 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: circlecity

Actually, it’s not at all true.
The more we find out about our place here and the conditions necessary for life,

the more it looks like the Earth is unique.

Even given the number of stars that we conjecture exist, the odds are still greater against even ONE earth existing.


54 posted on 01/24/2014 7:04:09 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

That’s an AU’s worth of commentary. ;-]


55 posted on 01/24/2014 7:04:32 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD
And didn't take long for you to expose the real agenda, as I noted earlier ... you had in mind only to ridicule. You had a large body of data to select from regarding Phobos but you chose to zero in on Richard Hoaxland, and now you prove what your intentions were but only after lying that you just happened upon the Hoaxland link, innocently. You are the epitome of the Mormonism defenders at FR, shady, twisting, deceivers. But that's not surprising given the religion you espouse and defend.

And that's about all the attention you will get from me at this point. You are outed.

56 posted on 01/24/2014 7:41:05 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 1010RD
"Ah, the old “not necessarily true” gambit."

I have no idea what you mean by "gambit" in this context. The statement means exactly what it says.

57 posted on 01/24/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by circlecity
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To: MrB
"Even given the number of stars that we conjecture exist, the odds are still greater against even ONE earth existing"

Agreed. And apart from being the only planet which can likely sustain life, earth is remarkably positioned for the benifit of intelligent life in terms of cosmological study and other intellectual pursuits. The evidence is overwhelming that life on earth was not just a mere chance happening. See the book: "The Privileged Planet"

58 posted on 01/24/2014 8:29:00 AM PST by circlecity
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To: circlecity

Just (re)watched the vid with my kids last week.

PP book was a great leap for my Walk.


59 posted on 01/24/2014 8:36:53 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MHGinTN

LOL. Only you know what you’re talking about. Please educate me on Phobos’ potential as an alien artifact. I really mean it. The article I posted was the least kooky one I could find.


60 posted on 01/24/2014 11:40:52 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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