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Word for the Day, Monday, January 27, 2014-- casuistic
1/27/14 | xs

Posted on 01/27/2014 5:54:47 AM PST by xsmommy

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To: xsmommy

Thank you!


141 posted on 01/27/2014 11:51:25 AM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I look at it pragmatically. There are “victims,” but prohibition is not the solution.

And, yes, I would rather have tax money go into the treasury legally than have money go into the pockets of cops, judges, prosecutors and politicians illicitly.


142 posted on 01/27/2014 11:54:48 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; xsmommy

Yes, I don’t disagree with either one of you on age-appropriate messaging and punishment.


143 posted on 01/27/2014 11:56:45 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Simply put, it is a public health issue.

Not a criminal one.


144 posted on 01/27/2014 12:02:14 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: SoothingDave

So what is next prostitution? Other drugs? No age limit on marriage? Where do you draw the line?


145 posted on 01/27/2014 12:05:10 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: hobbes1

You are wrong - it currently is a criminal issue. you want to make it NOT be a criminal issue but it is


146 posted on 01/27/2014 12:05:46 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: xsmommy

Of course you do, but you’re bifurcating the issue.

On the one hand, you’re correct. That understanding needs to come from the home.

OTOH, it’s simply a public health issue, not one of criminal justice, until actual crimes (dui) occur.

Much like you, i know with absolute certainty, that the boys, would never venture down that road.

But, that isn’t something they got from health class, nor fear of consequence. Just a forthright understanding....

I will say, it’s pretty cool to have a spirited discussion here...it’s been a while.


147 posted on 01/27/2014 12:08:09 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Prostitution should have been legal ages ago....especially when AIDS popped up.

Please, it’s so frickin rampant, you can pick up any paper, or internet device
And be into some flesh in 30 minutes.

Yes, lets keep licensing and doctors out of it.


148 posted on 01/27/2014 12:11:37 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Philosophically.

Logically.

If you want to argue current law as logic...

Defend Obamacare.


149 posted on 01/27/2014 12:12:59 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I’ll wait.

(Sound of foot tapping)


150 posted on 01/27/2014 12:13:32 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: xsmommy; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; SoothingDave

I don’t know if my first husband and I did it right or not, but we relied on our own upbringing and experiences, took her to Mass and encouraged her to be involved in church-sponsored youth activities-and used very little of my education and work experience in social work. Some people said we were too permissive just the same, because we gave her credit for being sensible. We were always her parents, never her friends and we made the rules, period. I guess I’d say we did the best we could with what we had.

The cub only really did something beyond the pale twice, and neither incident included legal or illicit drugs, or alcohol-once she almost eloped with a boy, and once she and a neighbor’s daughter gave a boy an inappropriate-but well deserved beatdown...


151 posted on 01/27/2014 12:18:19 PM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; xsmommy; SoothingDave

I do not want to offend anyone in this discussion, but at the risk of giving in to my natural rebellious nature-what the hell is a “public health issue” anyway? The only issue I can see is that IDs should be checked for purchase of sexual services-no minors allowed, just like anything else that requires the reasoning and acceptance of responsibility of an adult. My “health” or yours or anyone else’s is not the concern of any government...

I also believe if we can enlist in the military and fight for our freedom at 18, then we are an adult at 18, too. None of this is new-my core beliefs haven’t changed since I was in my teens-I’ve just gotten a more mature outlook-and I will now don my flameproof skivvies...


152 posted on 01/27/2014 12:32:37 PM PST by Texan5 (" You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: hobbes1

So you feel selling your body should be legal and accepted. Would you like your daughter to be a prostitute? If not, why if it is such a wide spread and acceptable practice?


153 posted on 01/27/2014 12:55:52 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: Texan5

In terms of public health issue...

With addiction, we use specious arguments, like burglary, or dui to justify the intervention of the State into private behavior..

Tobacco, and Alcohol kill more by orders of magnitude. Yet, we do not criminalize behavior, except where appropriate. Until recently anyway.

While addiction, is a sad affair, it is not one that needs criminalization, nor for that matter is predilection.......hence..people should be left alone, and their health issues, should remain health issues.

This is a lets have a beer topic, far too long for a keyboard...lol..this is a /rant topic for me.

Please don’t bring up Mark McGuire...lol


154 posted on 01/27/2014 12:56:47 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: hobbes1
We aren't discussing obamacare - if you would like to discuss obamacare go find someone who wanted that in the first place - you won't find it on this thread.

My statement was in response to your comment that pot wasn't illegal. It is, currently.

155 posted on 01/27/2014 12:59:17 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Would I like that...c’mon..you’re better than that... Thats obvious.

Look, i fully understand, that this is a very gender specific thing.I truly sympathize. Women, do not want that club out of the bag, because it negates a weapon, in the power relationship, no matter the willingness, or voraciousness of the appetite at home.

I get that.

Talk to all those women, from the early days of aids, that played that game and lost.


156 posted on 01/27/2014 1:00:13 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: hobbes1

And the “sound of foot tapping” crap is so girly hobbes - really.


157 posted on 01/27/2014 1:00:41 PM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
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To: secret garden

Illegal drugs can kill you with a low dose, another individual could take twice that and not die. First time you take it it can kill, or the tenth time you take the same dosage it can kill. You do not have to take more of it to get a different end.


158 posted on 01/27/2014 1:00:58 PM PST by tioga (Every knee shall bend, every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Lmao. Draw the line. You just made me throw Aerosmith on.....


159 posted on 01/27/2014 1:03:02 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

You’re right. We were discussing the moral and philosophical differences between just and unjust law...

Maybe my previous post was unclear. I Apologize.


160 posted on 01/27/2014 1:04:30 PM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "St.Sarah, the1Tru Conservative that REFUSES to unite us and Save America"yo)
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