Skip to comments.What Gibson Guitars Did with the Wood the Government Returned
Posted on 02/02/2014 6:10:36 AM PST by rktman
In 2011, the Department of Justice conducted raids on the Tennessee facilities of the famed Gibson Guitar company and confiscated large quantities of tonewood that had been imported from India and Madagascar. The action included armed SWAT teams, with automatic weapons, who apparently feared being garroted with a guitar string by an enraged Gibson employee. These raids were conducted due to the Lacey Act, which bans the importing of certain woods. The issue at hand was not that the wood was endangered or illegally harvested, but that it was not of the proper thickness that would have meant that some labor had been performed on it by workers in India and Madagascar.
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Heard owner ceo where donors to the GOP
Yup. A sudden audit by one of the alphabet orgs the govt oversight council controls? Hmmmmmm!
From this incident, I learned that I should pick Gibson over Martin.
“If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever.”
This is what the government has become; nothing more than a protection racket. Pay your protection money to the Democrat Mob of “somthin’ bad might happen to youse bidness”.
Here’s a link from Gibson featuring the Govt. Model and a nice little description of what lead to it’s manufacture. Hheheh!
That is probably the case.
Remember all the car dealers that were put out of business?
I see the liberal whiners are out in full force in the comments section.
Pay backs will be hell
Incidentally, the Government Modles sold out within a few weeks. I would love to have a Government Modle Flying V, but I found out about the, too late.
Whaaa right? I looked at the Gibson site and it looks like they also have an Explorer, SG and Flying V Govt models available too. Me likey.
So all the rebels beat us too them huh? Were background checks done? Does the nsa have the names of the rebel forces that obtained these as an assault on the feds? Dang the slow response time in getting one. Wonder if the prices are going to go up on these “collector” models? ;>}
Have you no conscience or soul, man??
Think of all the frogs and crap that will die screaming if you buy one!!!
[I don’t know how anybody could write that with a straight face]
Hope you get one soon...:)
Wow...this one is like a steampunk work of art!
Die from.............? Cranking the Marshall stack up to 11 and lettin’ those super hot pickups blaze away? LOL! No room at the Inn and I think someone already mentioned they are all gone now anyway. Sigh......... ;>}
“The issue at hand was not that the wood was endangered or illegally harvested, but that it was not of the proper thickness that would have meant that some labor had been performed on it by workers in India and Madagascar.”
No, that is most certainly NOT the issue.
The issue was - and is - that the owners of Gibson are conservatives who oppose Obama’s Marxist programs and the socialist transformation of America.
Nice industrial look. Reminds me of my 2nd electric guitar. Had 4 knobs and 6 slider switches. Fun trying to figure out which one did what. Now it’s two tone, one volume and a 3/5 position switch.
Isn’t there a second generation on the way?
Damn the screaming frogs.
Regardless, someone had wood.
It’s so purty.
I wonder how many Slash has bought?
But somehow it's appropriate. They match the millions of GSA-issue desks and cabinets that are lined up in government offices across the land, manned by incompetent drones, with no other purpose in life than to cause trouble for working citizens and the people that employ them.
I think he probably has the custom shop build his. As for a 2nd run, I thought they only had a limited amount of wood. Maybe they need to have another batch confiscated first.
I read elsewhere that it was Gibson that paid the fine.
LOL! Probably so. Ya think the govt pays for anything? The taxpayers pay for everything.
I’m just so sick of reading things that are poorly written. It’s bad enough when the comments are full of the misuse of “lead” in place of “led,” but when the professional writers have such poor command of the language, I wonder why they chose a profession that’s all about language.
Somebody has to fell the trees/limbs and buck the logs. Not to speak of growing the trees.
Apparently editors are no longer required. There, their, they’re. LOL! ;>}
I doubt the prices will go up much. These don’t seem to be TOO highly regarded. (Sadly, a lot of lib guitarists out there) The price did go from an original sales price of around $800 to about $1200 immediately after they sold out, but I have heard nothing recently. Initially there were the Les Paul, Explorer, and Flying V, and they were pretty cool, IMO. The one in the article seems to be a new one, the “series II”. Looks like a cheaper issue. I doubt I’ll be buying one. Would love to find the first government edition V though!
A rows buy any other name.
In 2011, the Department of Justice conducted raids on the Tennessee facilities of the famed Gibson Guitar company and confiscated large quantities of tonewood that had been imported from India and Madagascar.
Wrong. The Madascar ebony was seized in a 2009 raid. The East Indian rosewood and ebony were seized in 2011, the 'large quantities' at the Dallas airport.
The issue at hand was not that the wood was endangered or illegally harvested, but that it was not of the proper thickness that would have meant that some labor had been performed on it by workers in India and Madagascar.Wrong. The issue at hand with the Madagascar ebony was precisely that it had been illegally harvested by Roger Thunam and was under government seizure.
One issue at hand with the Indian wood was existing U.S. Customs law about whether raw fingerboard blanks were considered finished or unfinished. The existing U.S. law said they were unfinished, based upon a customs ruling Gibson itself sought in 60/61 to avoid paying a tariff on finished products.
With so many errors in the first four sentences, I hated to read on, but I can tell you the author is repeating blog posts and Gibson's press releases, and has not done his research.
I agree. A lot of the “article” didn’t fit with some of the earlier info. Regardless, I like to see that Gibson is poking them in the eye a little bit with the (supposedly) sold out run of Govt. “models”.
I think, that for a Les Paul, it’s FUGLY! The color is blah. I’ll stick with my ‘57 Strat. Never been too crazy about hum bucking pickups either.
But,,,, good for Gibson!
My favorite is "loose" for "lose".
I’m a little surprised anyone has yet to mention the word, shudder, Fender, in this conversation. I just picked up an American standard Strat with a rosewood fretboard in seafoam green (not Jeff Beck model)and it rules. There are choices.
Despite the politics of the whole mess, my strats all have maple neck/fret boards. My old Epiphone (circa ‘65) has a GASP! Brazilian rosewood fret board. Don’t have the receipt any longer so I best not take it out of the country out of fear of having it, uh, liberated upon my return. ;>}
I was just reading comments on the latest Coke video. Coke went out of its way to insult Americans. One of the comments about the assault on our language was very good, until the last sentence. “We are loosing our American language and culture.” We are doomed.
Yah, Rktman, I surfed over there. The Government series is cool. I’d get the Les Paul version for the sustaaaiiiinnnnnnnnn. :-)
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