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Don't look to police for legal advice
2/6/14 | Shimmer1

Posted on 02/06/2014 6:42:06 AM PST by Shimmer1

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1 posted on 02/06/2014 6:42:06 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

I doubt many will disagree with you.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 6:44:50 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Shimmer1

Interesting enough, but needs paragraphs.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 6:45:30 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Shimmer1

Where is her father?


4 posted on 02/06/2014 6:48:44 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Usagi_yo

I have learned that the local cops, including our chief, are wildly ignorant in the law.

We have an open range law in Colorado and the chief informed me that it doesn’t apply to goats. A quick I’net search showed that it does, including the state’s own website.

Now, how hard would it have been for her to call dispatch and have them look it up? Instead, I had to do her work for her in order to protect my rights against her ignorance.

Avoid ever getting involved with LEO’s if at all possible.


5 posted on 02/06/2014 6:52:01 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Shimmer1

I will never talk with a police officer again. EVER. And they are not on our side. Sorry to the LEOs in the Freep World, but your buddies made it bad for everyone.

http://kingcorey.com/2008/12/dont-talk-to-police-ever-ever-ever-ever-ever/


6 posted on 02/06/2014 6:52:12 AM PST by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org -- http://defcad.org/)
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To: Usagi_yo

You’ve never heard of ‘stream of consciousness’ posting?


7 posted on 02/06/2014 6:54:06 AM PST by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
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To: Shimmer1

Is it the mother’s house? If so, she makes the rules for those living there. Twenty year olds should be living where they can choose their own life style. Instead of attacking the mother’s Christianity, you should be grateful that she isn’t a Muslim or there would be no need for this post.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 7:00:05 AM PST by txrefugee
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Actually, if the YL wanted to a d—k about it all she would have to do is go to the local magistrate and apply for DVP (domestic violence protection) order against the mother, which are pretty much rubber stamped by the local magistrates. Since they reside under the same roof, odds are the mother would be kicked out of her own house until the case is resolved, which could take months....


9 posted on 02/06/2014 7:08:50 AM PST by apillar
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straw man argument - if she professes Faith - a certain evidence of her conviction in that faith obligates illumination if her behavior otherwise departs from that - This BS that “thank god she aint muslim” is no excuse for Christians behaving poorly.


10 posted on 02/06/2014 7:11:36 AM PST by Revelation 911
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To: txrefugee

I’m with you on this.

The young woman had surgery several weeks ago then making out with a young man in a car on the mom’s driveway.

There must be more to this than just the reason stated.

What a way to terminate ‘a friendship’.


11 posted on 02/06/2014 7:12:29 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Shimmer1

If your domestic violence laws are similar to those here in IL, if 911 had been called the cops would have interviewed the parties separately, made a determination as to who was the aggressor, and that person would have spent the night in jail. That said, never expect the police to be lawyers, especially in a case like this where the YL is 20, not a child. Good luck to them.


12 posted on 02/06/2014 7:13:23 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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“If your domestic violence laws are similar to those here in IL, if 911 had been called the cops would have interviewed the parties separately, made a determination as to who was the aggressor, and that person would have spent the night in jail.”

Not when it’s two women, these laws are only enforced when a man is accused so no neither one would have gone to jail that night. Some one else asked the most basic question which is where is the father? Did this “Christian” woman bounce him out of the house just like she did to her daughter? More than likely the answer to that is yes and more than likely she was portrayed in her church as one of those “brave single mothers”. Personally neither is representing Christ very well and if the daughter was making out with her boyfriend then why is she with you? Perhaps because this “Christian” woman’s boyfriend is not so up standing (more likely a bum or a thug) and wants nothing more than a little action before moving on?

Best advice would be to not get involved in these two women’s drama and realize that neither one is really a Christian.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 7:37:44 AM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: bigbob

generally they would just arrest the male anyways.


14 posted on 02/06/2014 7:42:32 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Shimmer1

Cops are there to enforce the laws as they personally interperate the law. Once you are dealing with a cop your best bet is to shut up. There are so many stupid laws you can be arrested for anything. I don’t know the right cpurse of action in this situation but it seems unreasonable that a street cop should know the ins and outs of domicile laws.


15 posted on 02/06/2014 8:01:02 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Shimmer1

The magistrate probably doesn’t know the law any better than the cop.


16 posted on 02/06/2014 8:01:08 AM PST by pacific_waters
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I once had a teenage girl tell a sob story and one of her friends took her in. In one night the woman was calling around trying to find someone to take her off her hands. I had warned her because I knew the father so I knew what the girl was saying about him were lies.

If you step up and take this young lady in, be prepared for her to stay a while. And be prepared to come to the realization that the situation probably bears little resemblance to the picture she’s painting.

By the way, why didn’t the boy she was making out with come to her rescue?


17 posted on 02/06/2014 8:12:56 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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Unless the YL is on the lease, or can claim to have a sublease of some kind with the mother, she is 20, an adult, and was living as a guest in the house, at the pleasure of the mother. The mother can throw her out without commencing eviction proceedings. It is pretty easy for a YL in that situation to gum it up by claiming some kind of tenancy. Maybe she pays part of the rent and claims an oral agreement.

There is a difference between the laws that apply between landlord and tenant, and the laws that apply between tenant and guest. And each state is a little different, so who knows what Georgia courts would say.

18 posted on 02/06/2014 8:16:30 AM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Shimmer1

I have clients tell me all the time that they called and asked the police.

I have heard judges say “the police are not lawyers”

police love playing God however

Now as for this young lady you are helping, if she is over 18, she is a guest in mom’s house in most places. She has no license to stay at mom’s house unless she is paying rent. If she is paying rent, then she has to be evicted. A line I have heard is that “if I get mail there, I have a right to be there”. No. You don’t. Or, ‘if I have been there fore 30 days, I have a right to be there” No, you don’t.

If she is a minor, then mom is responsible for necessities, but the counter to that is kid has to follow the rules.

So, kid is a idiot for making out in a car in her own driveway, her boyfriend is a loser and good luck to them both. Thank you for helping her, but she will likely spit on you shortly too. You will find her messy, eating and lazy and you will want her gone too.

She is obviously entitled and too stupid to make it on her own, but you have bitten off more than you can chew.


19 posted on 02/06/2014 8:17:37 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: x1stcav

Yea, Everytime I try it I get trolled too.


20 posted on 02/06/2014 8:23:37 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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