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Don't look to police for legal advice
2/6/14 | Shimmer1

Posted on 02/06/2014 6:42:06 AM PST by Shimmer1

I was helping a young lady last night (age 20), whose mother had kicked her out the night before for making out with a young man in his car in the driveway. YL had been kicked out with a sleeveless shirt, no shoes, no coat, and no medicine (she had surgery several weeks ago on her back) and the mom literally threw her out into the yard. The mom was apparently incoherent with rage and they could barely even understand what she was screaming at them. They're still not sure why she flipped out like that. She also kept YL's phone, which she does not pay for and just threw her laptop into the yard after her. Anyway, I picked YL up last night and drove her to her home to get shoes, coat, etc. The mom, who btw was previously a friend of mine but never will be again, is a "devout Christian" I also consider myself a Christian and am ashamed of her behavior!!!!! She then lied to the deputy that was called and told him she didn't kick YL out at all. Anyway, the point of all this background is to address the deputy's advice. I had JUST told the YL that you don't go to the police for legal advice and he started telling us that the mom couldn't kick her out and couldn't evict her for several days. This is not true! GA has a very specific and helpful set of laws that enable evictions. 30 days from the day it's served for not paying and 60 days otherwise. I foolishly mentioned she had much more time before eviction (I also know it's useless to argue with someone whose ego is tied up in his false knowledge) He said no, 3 to 7 days is all, and the judge gets to decide that. (the judge doesn't even hear this within that time, you have to file an announcement of the eviction in that time) He said it's up to the judge totally. I said even the judge has to follow the law, he said no, THE JUDGE IS IMMUNE FROM THE LAW. I almost laughed in his face, but didn't want to be drawn any deeper into his inanity. I know judges sometimes do silly, even stupid things, but the Magistrate Judge here in GA isn't immune from the laws of GA. duh. I admit they aren't precise in every occasion and he/she has some discretion with some things, but can't just ignore the legal guidelines and have someone out contrary to law. I just thought this is a good example of "don't go to the police for legal advice!!!!!!" ok, flame away, I just know someone is looking to argue over this.


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KEYWORDS: absurdity; donutwatch; legal; police; policestate; respectmyauthority
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To: yldstrk

Thanks for your reply, but she isn’t staying with me. Her mom had been a friend of mine, and I know the YL now for several years. She isn’t a stranger, but also, I didn’t take her in, she’d only been kicked out for a day and was at a friend of hers. I just hated to see her without warm clothing, a phone and a proper bed to sleep in. She had a hospital bed at her home, and a couch at her friend’s. I just drove her to her own home to pick up some things.


41 posted on 02/06/2014 1:24:14 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: VerySadAmerican

He did, I just left that part out because the story was long enough as it was.


42 posted on 02/06/2014 1:47:40 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: piroque

You are very literal aren’t you???? (giggle)


43 posted on 02/06/2014 2:21:13 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1
Evil grin
44 posted on 02/06/2014 2:27:55 PM PST by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Shimmer1

You are correct. If you want legal advice, ask a lawyer.


45 posted on 02/06/2014 2:49:51 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Shimmer1

You’re saying Georgia is a chaotic state where a night’s stay in someone’s house entitles one to remain there unless thrown out by court order? I find that hard to believe.


46 posted on 02/06/2014 6:19:54 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Defiant

That’s because I didn’t say anything like that. I don’t wonder you’re confused, you just made that up. In fact no one said anything like that. No one, including me, has brought up staying somewhere for one night.


47 posted on 02/07/2014 8:20:43 AM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1
That is the principle that you are saying applies in Georgia. A child who stays with a parent after age 18, or a friend, or girlfriend, or uncle, is, in spite of being there with the consent of the owner, a guest. It doesn't matter whether it's one day or one year. As I noted in my original post, if the guest pays rent or is a subtenant under an oral agreement, or some complication like that, there may be arguments they can make in court. In the absence of some kind of equitable argument like that, I don't see how you can have a functioning system of real property rights. It would be chaos. Anyone in your home could tie up the home for weeks, instead of being tossed out on their ass at your whim.

Make no mistake, I am not defending the mother or the daughter. The mother could be a total beyotch. I am just saying if it is her house, and if the daughter is not paying rent, it is the mother's right to kick her out without facing legal action, at least under the general rules of law. Georgia may be different, I concede I don't know Georgia law. However, most real property laws, and tenancy laws, in the US descend from common law and are usually very similar.

48 posted on 02/07/2014 3:44:12 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Defiant

I’m glad that you concede that you don’t know what you’re talking about.


49 posted on 02/07/2014 8:19:14 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

I will wager I know 10x more about this subject, or any other than you. I am not a Georgia lawyer, but am more qualified than you to give an opinion on tenancy law in Georgia. You are right not to take advice from cops, though. Don’t take your own, either.


50 posted on 02/07/2014 11:28:21 PM PST by Defiant (Obama is The Bard of Canard.)
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To: Defiant

of course you’re an expert. I can tell too, by your posts. Yeah.


51 posted on 02/08/2014 12:14:01 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

Didn’t say I’m an expert. In fact, I said I don’t know Georgia law. I did say I would be surprised if it is what you suggest it is. I am a lawyer, and in addition to knowing the law of the state I am licensed in, I am aware of general principles of law that most states follow. You seem to possess no expertise on legal matters, other than the wisdom not to rely on cops. I agree with that advice, and would advise you to check with a Georgia lawyer regarding whether a parent can tell an adult child to leave the parent’s home. Let me know when you find out I was right. Until then, stalk someone else. Seems like you enjoy drama. I can live without it.


52 posted on 02/08/2014 1:01:28 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Defiant

You’re a lawyer, well bless your heart. No wonder you are such an ass. I’ve just let you run on, arguing with your own self, and now “I” am the one who likes drama. What a hoot!


53 posted on 02/08/2014 1:11:28 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

Judging by the histrionics about your YL, I’d say yes. You are into drama, when not opining on things you know nothing about. And now you’ve brought it here, together with name calling. We’ll, I’m not into name calling, as it don’t know you. Your physical persona might be nice. However, your online persona could use some work. You went on the attack because someone dared suggest that a mother might legally evict a 20 year old daughter without court process. Even if you knew what you were talking about it would have been more appropriate to explain why you thought otherwise, with reference to what Georgia law actually says. I would have said “wow, that’s surprising, but thanks for filling me in”. Instead, you revealed you know nothing, but like to be disagreeable. Again, please spit that venom in another direction.


54 posted on 02/08/2014 2:18:42 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Defiant

You like to hear yourself, not unusual for a lawyer.


55 posted on 02/08/2014 2:39:16 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1
LOL. Reading through these posts, it is clear where you went wrong. You said you are a landlord, and know landlord tenant law as a result. However, what you don't realize is that the daughter is not a tenant. She falls under a different legal category known as guest. No eviction is required, as another poster with more knowledge also told you.

Good luck with your friends. Maybe if you reflect, you will take my comments to heart and emerge a better person, someone who can listen to others without vitriol. I hope so.

56 posted on 02/08/2014 2:55:30 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: Defiant

That is not true. You are wrong and gosh, what does that do to your claim that you know 10 times what I know about every subject???? Darn


57 posted on 02/08/2014 3:19:29 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Shimmer1

I appreciate the fact-based rebuttal. You can have the last word, as all drama queens are wont to do.


58 posted on 02/08/2014 3:41:32 PM PST by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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