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On Your Side: Law enforcement seizes money without arrest
MyNews4.com ^ | February 5, 2014 | MyNews4.com

Posted on 02/06/2014 10:34:43 AM PST by Altariel

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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

> They’ll test the cash for exposure to drugs and of course they’ll find something. Say, “Bye, bye cash.”

Go to drug lockup, grap cocaine, smear the dust on the bills and voila! Instant ownership...i wonder if the D.A. and any of his officers are living above their means...


61 posted on 02/06/2014 11:28:43 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Stormdog

“You didn’t bling that.”


62 posted on 02/06/2014 11:29:04 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: TurboZamboni

Touche!


63 posted on 02/06/2014 11:30:08 AM PST by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: DannyTN

How fascinating that you try to paint the victim as a criminal without any facts to support that information.

It is the police, not the victim, who violated the Constitution here.

The same Constitution to which you claim to give lip service.


64 posted on 02/06/2014 11:30:28 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Navy Patriot

Look, they probably have a very expensive SWAT team to support. Thought crimes will be the next way of generating revenue .... they just think you are thinking bad thoughts and they seize your bank accounts and property ... just like their big brothers at the IRS.


65 posted on 02/06/2014 11:35:58 AM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Stalin is smiling in Hell at how well Obama has copied his communist organization.)
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To: Altariel

Thieves deserve death.

Doesn’t matter if they happen to be carrying a badge.


66 posted on 02/06/2014 11:36:31 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: chiefqc
They are taking their lead from mac daddy, mac daddy disregards laws so why not them.

Have you been asleep for the past 20 years? This unconstitutional crap spans several administrations.

67 posted on 02/06/2014 11:42:41 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: DannyTN; JRandomFreeper; Altariel
>>It's all tied to the war on drugs.
> True, but an authority overreach that needs to be slapped down, doesn't justify killing an entire program.

Challenge Accepted!

There are multiple constitutional reasons that you should oppose the War on Drugs — I would go so far as to assert that one cannot be a constitutionalist and, simultaneously, support the War on Drugs.

First, let's take a look at the despicable practice of precedence *spit* — even by precedence we see that a constitutional amendment was needed to allow the federal government to regulate a particular substance: alcohol. (I despise precedence for the fact that it is functionally the judiciary plating the children's game of telephone with your legal rights and is often elevated above the Constitution itself… as we shall see.)

Second, let us investigate by what authority they claim the power.
The commerce clause, as pertaining to interstate commerce, which reads as:
[The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes

The courts have held that the congress can regulate intrastate commerce via this clause because it impacts interstate commerce. (See wickard)
Indeed, the courts have determined that non-commerce can be regulated in this manner as well. (See Raich)
[In Justice Thomas's dissent, the first paragraph claims the ruling means "the Federal Government is no longer one of limited and enumerated powers."]

Third, given the origins of the authority we clearly see that the power to regulate interstate commerce is exactly the same as the power to regulate foreign commerce. Taking this, we must consider that the actions of asserting the power to regulate inside a foreign nation exactly mirrors the regulating of commerce within a State; doing so would rightly be considered by the foreign power as a Declaration/Act of War, and the accomplishment of that assertion would involve the subjugation of that foreign nation's government — so the War on Drugs is, definitionally, the waging of war [or consequence thereof] upon the States themselves.

68 posted on 02/06/2014 11:51:39 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Altariel
How fascinating that you try to paint the victim as a criminal without any facts to support that information.
It is the police, not the victim, who violated the Constitution here.
The same Constitution to which you claim to give lip service.

You evidently paint with the same brush. Have the police been charged and convicted of violating the Constitution? No? Then your point is moot.

69 posted on 02/06/2014 11:51:42 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: SkyDancer

If I was a cop I would feel honor bound to turn in the whole $50.

70 posted on 02/06/2014 11:54:22 AM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Altariel
How bizarre our laws have become.

Is it against the law to transport your own property if that property is currency?

Is there a law requiring that all currency transfers be completed a certain way that excludes the owner?

Are there are limits as to how much currency you may have in your possession at any one time?

Are there laws limiting the places where you may have your currency in your possession, such as public highways?

Did the currency itself break some law and needs to be punished?

Is this some sort of racial thing?
"That sure is an unusual name...you from around here, boy?"

71 posted on 02/06/2014 12:07:47 PM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Altariel

It happens quite often, more than you want to think. The focus is on the Interstates. 10, 40, 80. Very well known drug smuggling routes from California to the East Coast. Particularly I40 Arizona-New Mexico-Texas.

They catch a lot of Gamblers and poker players traveling to and from different states gambling tournaments.

It’s actually kinda rare that Nevada would pull this on a traveler as it’s a heavily gambling state.

The man will get his money back, but it’s going to take months and a lawyer.

Civil forfeiture can work properly as long as the individuals have no incentive to game the system. In other words, the state, county, city, precinct don’t get to keep a dime of the money. It should go directly to U.S federal General obligation debt.

The perfect solution though is to do away with civil forfeiture where there is no conviction. It’s the only thing I hold against Reagan. It’s an obomination.


72 posted on 02/06/2014 12:10:18 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Ken H

That may be true but mac daddy along with his mindless administration have refinded it to a level that is accepted and defended like no other administration.

It appears to be a badge of honor that is worn by his administration and shoved into the face of the American people.

Mac daddy has no time for the parts of the constitution that He dones not agree with and will disregard them whenever he wants without a second thought and or fear of being questioned.

Corruption in his administration has reached a level that light years beyond any other administration.


73 posted on 02/06/2014 12:11:44 PM PST by chiefqc
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To: Altariel
Sergeant Dove wrote in his report, "I felt he was not part of the legal traveling public


DA, Kevin Pasquale responded by saying, "If we think the money was obtained illegally, we have a right to seize it


Law enforcement has changed. Now it's not law enforcement, it's feeeelings of law.
He will win in court. And it should be millions because of civil rights violation.
They can make laws to shoot speeders but it still does not make it just.

74 posted on 02/06/2014 12:27:38 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: Altariel
If we think the money was obtained illegally, we have a right to seize it

might as well close the US court system because we now have little tin gods with badges on the streets of America to exact their own version of law

75 posted on 02/06/2014 12:44:44 PM PST by drypowder
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To: Altariel

It happens in Mexico all the time. That’s why I always kept a separate wad of cash on me whenever I drove into Tijuana.


76 posted on 02/06/2014 12:47:59 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Are you really sure you’d turn in the whole $5??


77 posted on 02/06/2014 12:49:07 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: SkyDancer

.50, sure!


78 posted on 02/06/2014 12:50:16 PM PST by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: Focault's Pendulum

Wow, what honesty. You’d turn in a lowly nickle???


79 posted on 02/06/2014 12:54:48 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral)
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To: Bizhvywt

“When I hear of stories like this I always wonder how the cash was found. Are these vehicles being searched without cause as well?”

What they do is make subjective claims, like “I smelled pot”. Prove he was lying. Or they used trick ponies, a name given to the “Drug Dogs” that alert on a secret command.

The worst part is that these cops know they are hitting up innocent people. They just don’t care. In Texas they recently got hammered in court for extorting people to sign away their claim the money in total, or they’d bring in DCF onto their children.
Well of course any parent would give up the money, no matter how innocent, to protect their kids from that. Cops are thieves.
This is also part of why the claim “There are good cops,” is a lie. The good cops know EXACTLY what is going on, and they do....nothing.


80 posted on 02/06/2014 12:56:39 PM PST by LevinFan
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