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Lincoln High teacher charged with rape of students
The News Tribune (Tacoma, WA) ^ | February 7, 2014 | Stacia Glenn

Posted on 02/07/2014 6:34:27 PM PST by ConservativeStatement

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To: babygene
nobody here thinks she should be put to death... That’s crazy talk. That’s something the Taliban would do.

Bam!

That's precisely what everyone on the thread's been trying to say.

161 posted on 02/07/2014 11:47:06 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: thecodont
Female sexuality is far more valuable and emotional.

By saying male sexuality isn't valuable, you are dishonoring men.

It's the Law of Supply and Demand.

Same reason Dom Perignon is more valuable than Koolaid. There are lots of people willing to go extreme lengths to have the former, which is relatively rare / difficult to come by, while the latter is ubiquitous, but not particular desireable.

Has nothing to do with "dishonoring;" those are just the facts.

Regards,

162 posted on 02/07/2014 11:49:40 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: varyouga
Female sexuality is far more valuable and emotional.

Bwahahahahahahahahah! You don't get out much these days I see. Either that or I missed a sarc tag.

163 posted on 02/08/2014 12:00:23 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: thecodont

Well if it’s any consolation, I agree with the “goat” on this one.


164 posted on 02/08/2014 12:06:07 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: GeronL; Admin Moderator
is it okay for freepers to attack each other this way instead of staying on topic?

Those make the most interesting threads!

8~)

165 posted on 02/08/2014 12:07:33 AM PST by real saxophonist
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To: varyouga

>> They were 15-18 year old boys.

I refer you to the Duck Dynasty defense here justifying relationships to 15 year old females by men 4 years their senior. Not acceptable.

Some consistency on adulthood would be nice. I was an adult by law at 17. Is that old enough to die for the Country these days?


166 posted on 02/08/2014 12:13:14 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: GeronL; Windflier

An individual 17 was once an adult. I don’t know if that’s the case today statutorily.

Not long ago, Phil Robertson was here defended for his relationship to a 14/15 year while at his age of 18.

No adult should be involved with a minor. Period.

The position of power complicates the teacher’s situation regardless of 17 meeting the criteria of adulthood.

Is the 24 year old teacher an adult by Obama’s standards?


167 posted on 02/08/2014 12:24:30 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: twister881

I’m with you but the DuFarge torches and pitchforks crowd will holler loudly for her wuttle head on a pike

Claiming these high school lads were so traumatized by this 24 year old vixen

Some Freepers led really slow lives....I lost my virginity at 15 to a married woman her age....I was most worried about her Marcello connected husband catching us

And no I did not score continuously after that....I was a bit shy and slow to the saddle till Ole Miss

A place with such a plethora of comely lasses even Orcs like me got lucky


168 posted on 02/08/2014 12:31:58 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: citizen; GeronL

“My, but there’s a lot of folks with low/no morals on this thread. Of course the teacher was wrong.”

I was gonna say Gerry, don’t take these comments personal. A lot here don’t have a concept of moral absolutes.


169 posted on 02/08/2014 12:32:40 AM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Repeat Offender

>> Amen, brother. I was in the Marines at 17.

Old enough to die for your Country, old enough to drive, smoke, drink, etc...


170 posted on 02/08/2014 12:34:40 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Gene Eric

Sorry bud but you’re condeming one set of my grandparents and 2 sets of mygreat grandparents as starting out a crime in marriage

In very fruitful life long Christian marriages

I just don’t get some of the punitive remarks here

BTW...these consent laws you quote are fairly new state constructs

In rural America for a very long time teen marriages were pretty damned common with 17-19 year old boy and 14-16 year old girls

And they behaved a damn site better than average kid today and assumed a helluva lot more responsibility.... than even average 30 year college educated upper middle class girl or boy now

Hubris to judge

What’s your own personal experience
Perfection?

Mine sure wasnt but I did treat every woman like lady and like they mattered....no matter the serious or casual nature of the circumstance

I was taught females deserve it.....

But this notion if the boy is 18 then he’s (raping) his 15-17 year old girlfriend is ludicrous


171 posted on 02/08/2014 12:48:04 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: wardaddy

I kinda feel sorry for her. Emotionally immature no doubt. A very young age, worked relatively hard to get where she was. I went to her blog (listed at the end of the news story). A very young girl indeed. Probably out on her own for the first time in the big bad world.

I kinda think, these young teachers need to start out at lower grade levels. Say elementary school to not only learn how to teach, but to get years logged in before having to deal with High school students. Chances are, if she were in her 30s, she wouldn’t being pulling this crap.

She ruined her life, and for what? Too bad, all the way around. This is what happens without a good moral upbringing. Well, she can now teach math to her fellow prisoners.


172 posted on 02/08/2014 12:58:27 AM PST by abigkahuna (Here now and whatever....)
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To: abigkahuna

We had this happen local high school...lady principal...40

Train banging footballers and giving em booze

Caught....fired...no charges

Same woman...4 years earlier lit me up as 8th grader with about 7 frat paddle licks for haranguing very young temp teacher to tears...God I deserved it....I was merciless...before I knew how tender gals could be

Anyhow...how weird....a still recall the sweat beads above her painted lips when she finished...it was a serious punishment....watered my eyes...

And her white blouse sorta busted open and bra and milky robust cleavage

Tight grey wool pencil skirt......hose with that back line...nice legs

And black pumps...maybe 70mm heels....which she pivoted on like champ as she wore my ass out

She want pretty really....but extremely sexy and just ripe

Small wonder she taking that kind of action while her husband was gone.....his occupation..... local PCA pastor....

Crazy......45 years later I still recall the details....painted bright red nails and semi buffount hair.... 1970

Man was she pissed at me.....

In reality... hot teachers were very kind to me but always had big harassed husbands....back when men were real mind you...so you knew quick it was a fantasy that would stay one

I did note hit HS girls would throw themselves at cool male teachers...usually to no avail

Now college.... Katy bar the door

A willing male professor tenure or not could have all the coeds he wanted and plenty did


173 posted on 02/08/2014 1:27:42 AM PST by wardaddy (Bus to Shreveport... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYF682WYRtw&feature=youtube_gdata_)
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To: wardaddy

>> What’s your own personal experience? Perfection?

My experience was not having an intimate relationship with an individual less than 17 as an individual of 17+. At 18, a sixteen year old seemed off-limits to me in numerous ways. That’s respect in my opinion.

>> condemnation, hubris...

Not sure what’s controversial about my point that no adult should have a relationship with a minor. Of course, the age defining the minor is determined by society where the criteria varies over time.

>> But this notion if the boy is 18 then he’s (raping) his 15-17 year old girlfriend is ludicrous

You must be referring to statutory rape. Proximity of age should mitigate the consequences.

I don’t normally propose punitive consequences given the individual’s right to a fair hearing/trial. And I haven’t proposed a sentence for this 24 year old teacher.


174 posted on 02/08/2014 1:54:14 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: GeronL

Yes, she was in the position of authority, so the onus is on her, even though there was only a 7 year age difference, and they seemed equals in other ways. Same with boss-employee, doctor-patient, clergy person-parishioner, prison guard-inmate, and other types of inappropriate or unprofessional sexual relationships. People are human, and they will happen, but there are supposed to be boundaries.


175 posted on 02/08/2014 1:54:39 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: GeronL

I find myself saying the same thing oftener and oftener, but mainly because of fear for the future. But the present isn’t so great, either.


176 posted on 02/08/2014 1:56:53 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: anton

Excellent point.
We have to think of the other students and staff in these situations. Is a teacher like this really able to be fair with grading, etc. And the gossip likely to be going on has to have a negative effect on the learning environment. Teacher-teacher affairs can have a negative enough impact, esp. if one or both is married to other people.

But, no, it’s not a hanging offense!


177 posted on 02/08/2014 2:15:43 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: Windflier

Are you talking about those big pegs they put in their earlobes that stretch the earlobe? Ugliest damn thing ever! I could never be attracted to somebody with those.


178 posted on 02/08/2014 2:19:03 AM PST by crazycatlady
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To: varyouga

Sorry, a slt is a slt, gaining men’s attention for their perdition. The game is on. This country will rue the days. And when things will go bad, I fear for women.

Life of any gender is not to be turned to oils but oils to lives if possible, where love is produced instead of craved.


179 posted on 02/08/2014 4:01:03 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: varyouga

Sorry, a slt is a slt, gaining men’s attention for their perdition. The game is on. This country will rue the days. And when things will go bad, I fear for women.

Life of any gender is not to be turned to oils but oils to lives if possible, where love is produced instead of craved.


180 posted on 02/08/2014 4:01:04 AM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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