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Oklahoma cop sues over firing after he cited 3-year-old for peeing in public
NY Daily News ^ | 02/12/2014 | By Sasha Goldstein

Posted on 02/13/2014 11:51:24 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

Kenneth Qualls claims he had permission from on high to give the toddler a $2,500 public urination ticket in November 2012 after the boy began to pee in front of his house.

An Oklahoma cop canned for citing a 3-year-old boy for peeing outside is now suing the city of Piedmont for unfairly flushing his career.

Kenneth Qualls claims he had permission from on high to give little Dillan Warden a $2,500 public urination ticket in November 2012 after the tot unzipped in his pants on Ryan Drive.

The prohibited pee was on private property, the boy’s mother, Ashley Warden, said at the time.

"I said really, he is 3-years-old, and [the officer] said it doesn't matter – it’s public urination,” the boy’s grandmother, Jennifer Warden, told KWTV News 9 at the time.

But about 10 days after the ill-advised ticket, Qualls was dumped from the department, The Oklahoman reported.

~snip~

During the 2012 pissing match, the officer was even called “stupid” by the city’s mayor, furthering muddying his reputation, the suit claims.

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


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Oklahoma is OK. In any other state, the boy would have been charged as a sex offender for exposing.
1 posted on 02/13/2014 11:51:24 AM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

But it is OK in NY for gays to expose themselves in a parade.


2 posted on 02/13/2014 11:52:50 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Responsibility2nd

Good. Being an idiot really ought to DQ someone from being a police officer.


3 posted on 02/13/2014 11:54:18 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Responsibility2nd

Just goes to show that there are idiots in every state and city, even the “red” ones. The city did the right thing here. Someone like this genius doesn’t need to be running around with a gun and a pocket full of blank citations/tickets.


4 posted on 02/13/2014 11:56:54 AM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: colorado tanker

“Kenneth Qualls claims he had permission from on high to give little Dillan Warden a $2,500 public urination ticket in November 2012...”

Okay. So, even if he did have permission from above.........WHO DOES THIS TO A 3 YEAR OLD? That’s what 3 year olds do. Did he expect the 3 year old to pay a $2500 ticket? Check his I.D. to see if he was wanted?

God Almighty.


5 posted on 02/13/2014 11:57:29 AM PST by FAA
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To: FAA

Yes, it’s ridiculous.

But if he was in contact with his station and his superiors told him to give the ticket, he has a point in terms of his being fired.


6 posted on 02/13/2014 12:01:34 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: Larry Lucido; Gamecock

Maybe he had Uromysitisis or perhaps his father was in a Red Chinese prison.

$2500? Wow.


7 posted on 02/13/2014 12:01:40 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Did he shot the boy’s dog for the same offense?f


8 posted on 02/13/2014 12:03:53 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Responsibility2nd

In most states a 3yoa can’t even be charged with any crime let alone some thing as minor as this.


9 posted on 02/13/2014 12:03:59 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Responsibility2nd

Thank God he didnt take a dump.


10 posted on 02/13/2014 12:05:06 PM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: LaRueLaDue

That’s why I live in the country with no close neighbors.

I can pee and shoot out the back, front and side doors and no one says a thing.


11 posted on 02/13/2014 12:06:46 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: Responsibility2nd

Qualls’ appearence before the Piedmont Personnel Board on in July, 2013.

http://piedmontnewsonline.com/

Photo and his side of the story


12 posted on 02/13/2014 12:07:33 PM PST by deport
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To: FAA

A good friend of mine did this about age 2 in our yard. My mom always held it against him, but he grew up to be a really good guy. Yep, kids that age sometimes do this.


13 posted on 02/13/2014 12:08:03 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker

Too bad this case didn’t run its course. After a failure to pay the fine comes the likely warrant of arrest, which, given the cop’s apparent mindset, I imagine he would have been happy to serve. Another case for calling out SWAT, at that.


14 posted on 02/13/2014 12:11:22 PM PST by DPMD
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To: riverrunner

From what I heard about this case, the officer in question was parked a couple of blocks away, “casing” the area.

I’d say he probably had it in for the people or just the people in the neighborhood in general.

My 3 yr old, the other night, got confused about where he was supposed to change out of his swimsuit and began doing so poolside at the Y...


15 posted on 02/13/2014 12:11:31 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: riverrunner

Supposedly the ticket was issued to the Mother.

********
Qualls was fired in November 2012 from the Piedmont Police Department after he ssued
Piedmont resident Ashley Warden a ticket because her three-year-old was allegedly
urinating in her front yard.

http://piedmontnewsonline.com/


16 posted on 02/13/2014 12:12:15 PM PST by deport
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To: bramps

Oh... had that happen with a 2 yr old, in the front yard, in suburbia, on Christmas morning...


17 posted on 02/13/2014 12:12:16 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yep, he should be fired as he has proven that he’s too stupid to occupy any position of authority.


18 posted on 02/13/2014 12:12:58 PM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
OK, the whole ticket thing is bogus and stupid. Also, how can a 3 year mentally form the necessary intent for a crime?

But I must take issue with this statement: The prohibited pee was on private property, the boy’s mother, Ashley Warden, said at the time.

Public urination is a crime (though it shouldn't be by a 3 year old), it doesn't matter if a crime happens on public or private property. Following mom's logic, an adult male perv could expose himself to her son but as long as he was standing in his own front yard he could then claim this private property “exemption”.

Now both of my sons would have found themselves locked up for following mom and dad's advice, “better out in the yard then wetting you pants”, so there is a lot of common sense missing from the cops actions, but private property doesn't enter into this one.

19 posted on 02/13/2014 12:14:49 PM PST by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: Dr. Ursus
Did he shot the boy’s dog for the same offense?

It seems that no dogs were harmed in the making of this farce

20 posted on 02/13/2014 12:14:51 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: bramps

Peeing in public.

What if he wet his pants in public. Technically, that IS urinating in public!

At my age, I might too.

Not to mention your ‘dumping’ scenario. If a person soils their drawers in public, that would be “in public”.

More war on kids, and old folks.


21 posted on 02/13/2014 12:15:39 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Kenneth QuallsRobert Flippo/Gazette
Kennth Qualls presents his testimony before the personnel board July 1.

22 posted on 02/13/2014 12:16:33 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: deport

Photo and his side of the story

_________________________________________

So. He got a lawyer and is suing. Chances are... he may collect something. But in the end.... he is a jerk and I hope he never works in law enforcement again.


23 posted on 02/13/2014 12:17:16 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
During the 2012 pissing match, the officer was even called “stupid” by the city’s mayor, furthering muddying his reputation, the suit claims.

But you are stupid, Qualls. lol

24 posted on 02/13/2014 12:26:24 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Only faggots can expose themselves in public, as they have a magic talisman, and they didn’t grow up to be men. Three year old boys are up and coming men, which is closer to being a man than most fudge packers will ever see.

All liberals suffer from homophobia. They’re terrified of faggots, and will bend over backwards to avoid getting “the look” from one.

For those of you who are homosexual and reading my words... mark my words... you will be targeted by the Rats just as soon as they don’t need you as their magic kewpie talisman that they use to stab at Christianity.


25 posted on 02/13/2014 12:32:47 PM PST by RingerSIX (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccine that they offer down at our Church.)
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To: riverrunner

“That’s why I live in the country with no close neighbors.”

Yep. Me too.


26 posted on 02/13/2014 12:46:08 PM PST by LaRueLaDue
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To: ifinnegan

Even ASKING about giving this toddler a ticket should disqualify this jerk officer from being employed anywhere that needs a working brain to work there.


27 posted on 02/13/2014 12:48:34 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: Responsibility2nd

Yet another idiot not wanting to be held accountable for their actions. The stupid cop didn’t want to be held accountable but thinks he should be able to hold others accountable. Typical liberal.


28 posted on 02/13/2014 12:51:16 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: dennisw

What a fatass! That porker is a cop???


29 posted on 02/13/2014 12:52:23 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: CodeToad

Probably the guy did other dumb things and citing the 3 year old for public urination was the last straw


30 posted on 02/13/2014 1:08:26 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: ifinnegan

“Yes, it’s ridiculous.

But if he was in contact with his station and his superiors told him to give the ticket, he has a point in terms of his being fired.”

You do realize that the fact he even bothered to ask says a lot about who he is. The only question is, should they also go after the guy who said it was OK? If this guy has no more discretion than that, he does not belong as a cop.

As for “permission on high”, I hope he has a lot more than that statement to back it up.

A cop at another site said it best. “Thank you officer dumbass for improving public relations.”


31 posted on 02/13/2014 1:11:47 PM PST by LevinFan
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To: DPMD

At least the kid didn’t have a dog the officer could shoot.


32 posted on 02/13/2014 1:12:48 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: CodeToad
That porker is a cop???

Not anymore...

33 posted on 02/13/2014 1:13:48 PM PST by gopno1
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ve peed off my front porch, but only after dark.


34 posted on 02/13/2014 1:17:45 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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Sheriff Andy put up with Barney Fife for years but he would have canned this idiot in the first episode.

This guy is a cookie, what a maroon.


35 posted on 02/13/2014 1:34:37 PM PST by Holdem Or Foldem ( A Smith and Wesson beats four aces)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Does the law have an age limit?


36 posted on 02/13/2014 1:35:59 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Responsibility2nd

IF....and that’s a big if, he did have permission it
would have been in the form of a radio call to HQ
where he would have asked the watch commander if he
should cite or not. And if said shift supervisor actually
did tell him to do so then it is the shift supervisor
who should be held accountable. And IF said conversation
actually occurred it should have been recorded as virtually
ALL agencies record their radio traffic. Should be fairly
simple to confirm or deny the allegations.


37 posted on 02/13/2014 1:53:43 PM PST by nvscanman ( Jo)
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To: riverrunner
That’s why I live in the country with no close neighbors. I can pee and shoot out the back, front and side doors and no one says a thing.

I thought you were going to say you lived in the country so no little boys would pee in your yard...but sadly no, that wasn't the reason.

38 posted on 02/13/2014 1:55:15 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: colorado tanker

heck i was doing this until I was about 4......42

sometimes its just too much hassle to go inside


39 posted on 02/13/2014 1:55:16 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: DannyTN

Live stock and pets pee out side all the time only in crowed urban areas is it a worry.

I am sure my son pee in the yard and woods a lot when he was little to much time wasted to run back into the house.


40 posted on 02/13/2014 2:32:25 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: R. Scott

Yes some states to have on the books the age that some one can be held accountable.


41 posted on 02/13/2014 2:33:45 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: deport

OK...

i read what the officer said..

with that in mind, i make the following determinations..

1) the childs mother is an a$$hole..
2) the police officer is an a$$hole..
3) the officers supervisor is an a$$hole..
4) the supervisors supervisor is an a$$hole..

conclusion..
mother should be made to pay the fine..
officer has no business being an officer, should be fired..
officers supervisor is a spineless weasel, should be fired..
supervisors supervisor has no common sense or ability to judge a situation, should be fired..
this city has way too many cops and way too few crimes, force should be downsized..

did i miss anybody????


42 posted on 02/13/2014 3:44:01 PM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: MrB

Or vice versa. The child’s parent told the kid to pee on this yard. hmmm.


43 posted on 02/13/2014 4:25:53 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: colorado tanker
Age two? I remember being about six or seven and urinating behind a huge dirt pile than was behind a friends house. Lots of housing construction going on at the time. My friend's mother saw me (I don't know how), and squealed to my mother. Think I cared? My mother didn't do anything except chide me a little.

All of us did it (urinated outside) when we thought nobody was looking. Of course, this was almost sixty years ago. Few people got exercised about things like that in those days.

44 posted on 02/13/2014 5:58:13 PM PST by driftless2
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To: Rummyfan
******Yep, he should be fired as he has proven that he’s too stupid to occupy any position of authority.************

My though also...and he carries a gun...idiot.

45 posted on 02/13/2014 6:00:34 PM PST by goat granny (.)
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I was going to respond to this thread, but I have to go outside and pee. BRB.


46 posted on 02/13/2014 6:19:09 PM PST by jy8z (When push comes disguised as nudge, I do not budge.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

All the world is a urinal! It’s good to be a man! It’s good to be The King.


47 posted on 02/13/2014 6:51:40 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: FAA
So, even if he did have permission from above......

He didn't say exactly who gave him that okay from on high. Are you suggesting it was "God Almighty"? LOL

48 posted on 02/13/2014 7:54:12 PM PST by IIntense
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To: ifinnegan

Whoever gave him permission should also be fired. Who’s gonna ‘fess up?


49 posted on 02/13/2014 7:56:45 PM PST by IIntense
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To: Rodamala

Where would men be without women to somewhat civilize them? Oh, that’s right! They wouldn’t be here at all! LOL


50 posted on 02/13/2014 8:02:36 PM PST by IIntense
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