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Achieved My Illinois CCW Firearms Certification Today
Self ^ | Feb. 15th 2014 | USConservative

Posted on 02/16/2014 4:06:38 PM PST by usconservative

In Illinois, we're required to have 16 hours Classroom and Firearms training in order to achieve Certification, required to apply for an receive a Conceal/Carry Weapons permit.

Today my wife and I completed my training by achieving my Firearms Certification, scoring 100% on the firearms portion of the test. All shots center mass / kill shots.

Upon getting home this afternoon, we scanned in our Certification paperwork and uploaded to the Illinois State Police, completing filing of our CCW Permits.


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Any other Illinois Freepers completed their CCW Training yet? If not and you live in the South/Southwest Suburubs of Cook County/Northeast Will County, I highly recommend our NRA Certified, Ex-Military, Retired Illinois State Police Trainer. I'll happily send you his contact info via Freepmail. I do not receive any renumeration from him for referrals.

We chose our instructor based on the referral of a good friend of mine and were very happy with the training we received along with our trainers personal touch.

There are alot of "fly by night" CCW Training Schools popping up in Illinois, many of them doing the 'bare minimum' required. Our CCW Trainer walked us through the entire NRA Basic Firearms course and helped us achieve our NRA Basic Firearms Certification as part of his course. Many CCW Trainers are not doing that.

Even though I'm fairly proficient in rifles, my handgun experience didn't match my rifle experience so I wanted that level of training. The NRA Basic Firearms course I thought was very good, and "won me over" enough that we're also joining the NRA - an organization that I've been highly critical of here on FR.

If any Illinois Freepers are taking their CCW Training, insist on the NRA Basic Firearms training as part of your CCW Certification - it was well worth the extra bit of time.

1 posted on 02/16/2014 4:06:38 PM PST by usconservative
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To: usconservative

Congratulations!!!


2 posted on 02/16/2014 4:09:33 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: usconservative

It must be rough for people living in Southern Illinois. They are pretty conservative but totally under the thumb of Chicago.


3 posted on 02/16/2014 4:10:29 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: no-to-illegals

Thank you, it was time well invested and I feel much better prepared to defend my family, home and property as a result of the training we received. I really think the NRA basic firearms training was quite good and well worth our time.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 4:11:31 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

No thanks due me, instead my desire is to thank you.


5 posted on 02/16/2014 4:12:58 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: yarddog
You'd be surprised how many people outside Chicago and Cook County as a whole really hate the fact that "as Chicago goes, so goes the state."

It's changing, little by little. Even with the last Presidential election, there were very few counties that went full on Obama -- Unfortunately a statewide/federal candidate really only has to win three or four counties in the entire state to win.

6 posted on 02/16/2014 4:13:17 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I have an in-law from Mattoon. I remember visiting and being surprised that the people weren’t much different from where I grew up in NW Florida.


7 posted on 02/16/2014 4:16:05 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: yarddog

“It must be rough for people living in Southern Illinois. They are pretty conservative but totally under the thumb of Chicago.”

It’s not just people in Southern Illinois who are under the thumb of Chicago, it’s everyone outside of Cook County.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 4:17:42 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: no-to-illegals

Congratulation Comrade!

When the local Politburo begins a systemic search for counterrevolution activists your name and address is on the list.

The mere ownership of a weapon is of course counterrevolutionary.

For your own protection and that of your family and friends do not tell anyone of this.

We know where you live.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 4:23:56 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Democrats have destroyed more cities than Godzilla)
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To: usconservative

When will your actual permit arrive? Have any other folks from IL recieved their permits yet? What are your total costs? How long is the permit good for?


10 posted on 02/16/2014 4:26:43 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Mikey_1962

I understand but mine are at the bottom of the river, I fish. It was a terrible accident. Lost all ... I did draw a map though, Just In Case (wink).


11 posted on 02/16/2014 4:28:50 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: usconservative

I will offer congratulations as I’m sure it was time well spent.

Outside of that I see a few 2A infringements that are unconstitutional.


12 posted on 02/16/2014 4:30:04 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: usconservative

I just finished my certification and training course in the Quad Cities and also found the training and information to be top notch. By the way, I got only one wrong on the test. My brain had a “misfire.”


13 posted on 02/16/2014 4:32:48 PM PST by needtopraymore
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To: usconservative

none needed in WA. getting a permit here is hassle free.


14 posted on 02/16/2014 4:38:35 PM PST by RitchieAprile
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To: usconservative

very proud of
a) my motorcycle endorsement
b) my CW
c) my 4 yr degree


15 posted on 02/16/2014 4:45:51 PM PST by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: yarddog
Not just in Southern Illinois...

Think "just about everywhere but Chicago and the collar counties" and you wouldn't be too far off...

Wanna see something that will blow your mind? Here is the electoral map, by county, for the 2010 Governors Election. The supreme idiot Pat Quinn won exactly TWO counties other than Cook county, and won:

The good news is, this map is become FAR less Blue than previous elections. But, this is what we have to deal with...any suggestions would be welcome.

16 posted on 02/16/2014 4:46:39 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: usconservative

Congrats. Stiff fee for it too.

Not for CCW( been 42 years since I touched a weapon) but I have article2 (range in lombard) weapons training coming up end of April. Classes are absolutely booked. I’m going to ask if any of it can be applied toward CCW hours.


17 posted on 02/16/2014 4:49:57 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: usconservative

Good for you and the Mrs.

I don’t recall the Constitution though, saying anything about ‘certification’ with regard to any of our other God given rights.

As far as I’m concerned, the Feral gummint can go to hell.


18 posted on 02/16/2014 4:50:07 PM PST by onedoug
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To: usconservative

Congrats! You’ve become yet another piece of data in the “0Bama Regime: Gun Salesman of the decade” statistics. As did I (received my Indiana lifetime carry very recently). I don’t have a handgun yet but have been looking for a personal carry. Time to join the NRA too.


19 posted on 02/16/2014 5:04:28 PM PST by brewer1516
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20 posted on 02/16/2014 5:05:31 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: usconservative

21 posted on 02/16/2014 5:08:18 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: bigbob
I always have a problem when I see those 'new' maps.

For example, this is also Illinois

...1980 Presidential Election. Blue is Reagan...the way it should be colored for your map (ironic, the similarities, isn't it?).

22 posted on 02/16/2014 5:11:33 PM PST by logi_cal869
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To: usconservative

Congratulations!


23 posted on 02/16/2014 5:16:01 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: usconservative

Outstanding!
Thanks for stepping up and joining our ranks!


24 posted on 02/16/2014 5:18:26 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Mikey_1962
your name and address is on the list

That is one of several lists my name needs to be on.

25 posted on 02/16/2014 5:19:19 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: logi_cal869

I never did understand why they changed the colors, but I agree, let the Pinkos be RED ;-)

The lump on the river is Madison County near St. Louis I think - tort lawsuit capital of the world. And the one way down south includes Carbondale and SIU...and ironically is just across the river from Cape Girardeau MO, Rush’s home town.


26 posted on 02/16/2014 5:55:40 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: usconservative

“... uploaded to the Illinois State Police, completing filing of our CCW Permits.”

Congrats ... please follow up on line with when you “actually receive” your CCW permits. Not to be a downer but I’m guessing 20 - 30 follow up calls and 9 - 12 months.


27 posted on 02/16/2014 6:00:22 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (Anything regarding this administration ..... remember I told you so first!)
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To: umgud
Sent mine in about a month ago. Have not heard anything one way or the other yet. The website is very well laid out and easy to use. I had one glitch* that requited calling the help line and was shocked to get knowledgeable and friendly assistance from some young woman. I have not heard of anyone receiving their permit yet.

*You have to use all caps when entering your drivers license info.

28 posted on 02/16/2014 6:08:25 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: CrazyIvan

Thanks


29 posted on 02/16/2014 6:10:15 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: usconservative

Got FL CCW in 2010 and Utah CCW in 2013 (reciprocity in WI). Filed the IL paperwork electronically first week of January. Supposedly, 90 days is expected time we will receive the permits; I’ll believe it when I see it.

My only issue is that I had to download Java to use the State Police website. Since I wasn’t willing to do so due to concerns about Java, I used the PC at a friend’s office to file.

Congratulations to you and your wife. I was able to enlist 16 Chicagoans and 10 suburbanites, including 3 women, to join our ranks.


30 posted on 02/16/2014 6:22:29 PM PST by 12Gauge687
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To: usconservative; yarddog

When I lived near Chicago all the suburbs were Republican territory. The first time I voted I had the privilege to cast a ballot for Don Rumsfeld for congress.

31 posted on 02/16/2014 6:35:05 PM PST by concentric circles
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To: usconservative
I did a Michigan CPL today. 100% on classroom and the above at the range (note the smiley face) But I am already an NRA instructor and was just shopping the competition. It was a boost to my confidence, as my course exceeds this guy's course. Issued a certificate for Personal Protection in the Home but did not include all the range work. People in the class never even fired a gun before and should have taken Basic Pistol. Michigan requirements are a blend of Basic Pistol and PPITH. When I teach a course for MI CPL they get both (minus the overlap). They get issued the Basic Pistol certificate because most ranges will not allow the shooting exercises required to issued an earned PPITH.
32 posted on 02/16/2014 6:58:22 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: onedoug
I don’t recall the Constitution though, saying anything about ‘certification’ with regard to any of our other God given rights.

Me either, but here's the deal: If you want to conceal/carry LEGALLY in this state, them's the requirements.

I'd been conceal/carrying since 1996, am glad I'll finally be legal.

33 posted on 02/16/2014 7:07:56 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: umgud
When will your actual permit arrive? Have any other folks from IL recieved their permits yet? What are your total costs? How long is the permit good for?

The law states that the Illinois State Police are required to respond with the Conceal/Carry permit within 90 days, or a letter to the applicant explaining why they've been (presumably) denied.

34 posted on 02/16/2014 7:10:13 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

thanks


35 posted on 02/16/2014 7:11:17 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: eyedigress
Outside of that I see a few 2A infringements that are unconstitutional.

Based on the 9th Circuit Court's ruling late this past week which struck down several provisions of California's law, I'm sure there'll be changes to Illinois' law as well. (Those changes will require a further loosening of the requirements.)

Personally I find it objectionable to have to pay to exercise my second amendment rights via a $150 "fee" for a CCW permit --- however I can easily afford it and when the fee gets struck down or greatly minimized by a future court ruling, I'll join the class action lawsuit to get my money back.

Until then, I'm still glad I did it despite the nattering naybobs of negativity on this thread.

36 posted on 02/16/2014 7:13:34 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Mikey_1962

Just responding to this thread puts you on the list, ever buy a gun o a 4473 ever buy ammo with your credit card.

Ever buy a hunting license your on a list.


37 posted on 02/16/2014 7:16:50 PM PST by riverrunner
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To: stylin19a
If you look at the requirements for IL CCW, Military / Ex-Military are required 8 hours classroom to get up to speed on the Illinois Law and range certification.

For anyone WITHOUT military experience, it's a combination of 16 hours classroom & range certification.

Now, the state says "8 hours." The material the state REQUIRES to be taught takes far less than 8 hours. That material is more like 90 minutes. The range certification also takes far less than 8 hours as you're only required to put 21 rounds out of 30 into the target at 35, 30, then 20 feet.

Some CCW Trainers are spending 2-3 hours class time, then an hour or less on the range. That's primarily because those CCW trainers are going by the MINIMUM State requirements for classroom and range training.

I frankly speaking happened to like the fact that the instructor I had (NRA Certified, Ex-Military, Retired State Police) chose to use the NRA Basic Firearms training in his course.

I'm familiar with Article 2 in Lombard -- never been there. You may want to ask what material they're incorporating into their classes and if they're following the state minimum OR if they're adding the NRA Basic Firearms class. If you want the name of the CCW Trainer I used let me know, I'll send that to you in Freepmail. He's in Oak Forest, IL.

38 posted on 02/16/2014 7:22:03 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 12Gauge687
Congratulations to you and your wife. I was able to enlist 16 Chicagoans and 10 suburbanites, including 3 women, to join our ranks.

Most of the guys I work with have been through, or are going through the process. I've taken two to the range to help them get comfortable with different weapons to encourage them to get their CCW.

I'm working on my youngest brother trying to get him to get his CCW. He works the graveyard shift as a hospital pharmacist in a relatively rural area. Bad things happen in the middle of the night when you're on the road to/from work and I just want him to be able to protect himself.

39 posted on 02/16/2014 7:25:50 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

thanks - article 2 instructors here...
http://article2range.com/firearms-instruction/
mostly NRA certified classes.


40 posted on 02/16/2014 8:35:40 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: usconservative

I am very glad for you in that, but for this: Don’t you feel that a required record would be where confiscation by government would start?


41 posted on 02/16/2014 10:33:31 PM PST by onedoug
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To: onedoug

they probably have him on the re-education list already for his good posts here over the years…. ;-P


42 posted on 02/16/2014 10:38:59 PM PST by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.ha)
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To: usconservative

There are 102 counties in IL. Most folks outside this state do not know how loathed and despised Cook County (Chicago) and Sagamon County (Springfield) are by the other 100 counties.


43 posted on 02/17/2014 12:58:53 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: usconservative
Thank you, it was time well invested and I feel much better prepared to defend my family, home and property as a result of the training we received. I really think the NRA basic firearms training was quite good and well worth our time.

I grew up in a NRA household. In the '60s, Dad teamed up with a shop teacher and they started a gun safety "club" at our school. Lots of NRA videos on gun safety and many other activities to make folks safe and comfortable with firearms. Straight forward and on target.

44 posted on 02/17/2014 3:20:22 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: onedoug
Don’t you feel that a required record would be where confiscation by government would start?

There's no doubt I'd prefer a Constitutional Carry state. That's not what we have. No, it's not "perfect" but from where we were which was "no conceal/carry & a complete handgun ban in Chicago and many municipalities" Illinois has come literally light years.

I expect over time a further loosening will occur, based on last weeks 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling in California. Illinois has even stricter CCW restrictions than California has, thus I expect "loosening" of the CCW laws here.

If I had done that which you're implying along with others on this thread, I'd either (a)continue violating the law as I have been since 1998/1999 illegally conceal-carrying and risking jail time OR (b)not achieved my certification and not conceal/carried at all.

One option lands me in jail, the other option lands me potentially in the morgue.

No thank you, I don't like either of those two options. Those nattering naybobs of negativity who screech Illinois law isn't "perfect" I agree with the sentiment, I DISAGREE on waiting/doing nothing until the law is "perfect."

Not gonna happen here. I'll take what I can get, which again, is LIGHT YEARS ahead of where this state was just last year.

45 posted on 02/17/2014 5:38:49 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: MasterGunner01
Most folks outside this state do not know how loathed and despised Cook County (Chicago) and Sagamon County (Springfield) are by the other 100 counties.

My family moved to Illinois from Iowa when I was 15 back in 1977. We lived in C(r)ook County.

When I married at 23 years old, I purchased my first home (at 24) in C(r)ook County.

By the time I reached 28 years old, I "wised up" and moved OUT of C(r)ook County and out to rural Will County.

Gotta tell ya, there really isn't much of a difference between the R's and D's in this state. Both parties are out to squeeze as much money out of us as they can via taxes, "fees" and "fines" for damn' near everything. The only thing we DO NOT get taxed on is breathing and I'm sure that's coming!

The political corruption in this state makes Arkansas under the Clinton era look like rookies by comparison. There's a reason 4 of our past 7 Governors have gone to jail.

As for me, I'm only here another 2.5 - 3 years tops. As soon as both sons are out of high school and in college I don't care if I have to burn my house down to collect the insurance on it, we're OUTTA here.

46 posted on 02/17/2014 5:45:20 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: KC Burke
they probably have him on the re-education list already for his good posts here over the years…. ;-P

You mean someone's actually been reading my posts on here since I joined in 1998?

Damn, if I had known that I might have actually spoken my mind! ;-)

47 posted on 02/17/2014 5:46:37 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

I do understand. Please don’t think me flippant.

Personally I’ve long felt pretty comfortable carrying a knife when out ‘n about. Currently it’s a 4” flip-out, but I’d rather my K-Bar, though it’s less easy to conceal.

‘Learned a lot about weapons in the Army and Vietnam, though would never dream of registering what I had or want. It is NONE of the government’s business AT ALL. There’s also none of this “The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation” feces attached to it.

If it’s such an issue to the American People, then it can be addressed in ways described by the amendments processes within Constitution, not outside it. I do not and will NEVER recognize the principle any other way.


48 posted on 02/17/2014 9:42:32 AM PST by onedoug
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To: usconservative

Congratulations! And welcome to the clubs.


49 posted on 02/17/2014 3:00:09 PM PST by RC one (Militarized law enforcement is just a nice way of saying martial law enforcement)
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To: stylin19a

I’m on the waiting list at Article II. Nice local range run by good folks.


50 posted on 02/17/2014 3:04:14 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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