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To: metmom; LibLieSlayer; Buckeye McFrog; E. Pluribus Unum; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; ..
Related: Caucus thread (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3123469/posts) states based on the Vatican’s own survey (http://www.patheos.com/blogs/deaconsbench/2013/11/vatican-releases-full-text-of-document-and-survey-questions-for-2014-synod-of-bishops-on-the-family/

Before the Vatican ACTUALLY did its OWN poll, they would blow off every poll and survey that came down the pike.

They had to – really. To even acknowledge or lend any credence whatsoever to the results of past surveys would be to admit that there has been a never before in the life of the Church anything like it collapse of the faith.

That would immediately necessitate a conversation of how this happened, which would lead directly back to the bishops...Every excuse in the books – anything to deny, lie or refuse to comply with the truth.

Well, they can’t do that ANY MORE. These are the Vatican’s OWN OFFICIAL numbers – and they show – heck in some cases – results EVEN WORSE than originally thought...

So consider the whole picture. On the one hand, we have an official Church survey PROVING what we have long known – global apostasy as John Paul termed it.

And then we have prominent Church leaders who couldn’t care less and who come out and say it publicly. They are more concerned with the press ASKING about IT then they are with the actual IT.

Nothing new here. This is what RCs keep denying when i provide the evidence: /RC-Stats_vs._Evang

44 posted on 02/18/2014 12:06:57 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212; metmom; LibLieSlayer; Buckeye McFrog; E. Pluribus Unum; boatbums; caww; ...
The good news in all this is that some of these people leaving the RCC are going to become Born Again Christians and will be involved in and members of an Evangelical, or Reformed church.

The bad news is a larger number will just turn their backs on Christianity.

48 posted on 02/18/2014 1:54:15 PM PST by wmfights
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Like I said earlier in another response in this thread... I am incapable of speaking for the Catholic Church but any Christian that thinks that modern societal norms as professed by the media and pop culture, will change the LAWS OF GOD because they fit with their vision of what life should be... are going against GOD’s word. That is all that I meant.


55 posted on 02/18/2014 2:27:09 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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