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Imagine making children illiterate
EdArticle ^ | July 9, 2013 | Bruce Deitrick Price

Posted on 02/20/2014 3:43:06 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice

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1 posted on 02/20/2014 3:43:07 PM PST by BruceDeitrickPrice
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Part of the process was “scientific” racism programming. Lots of people today believe that black or Mexican children can’t learn to read, because they have marginally lower average IQs than white or Asian students. Never mind the fact that practically everyone’s IQ was lower a few generations ago ... when malnutrition was the standard, rather than the exception ... yet, children instructed with phonics learned to read. Children drilled in math facts learned to do arithmetic. Children drilled in penmanship could write.


2 posted on 02/20/2014 3:52:03 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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Public School is Child Abuse. (AKA Government School)


3 posted on 02/20/2014 3:56:40 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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In the 1960's the The Stratemeyer Syndicate had the books in the Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys and other series rewritten. They dropped the number of chapters from 25 to 20 because children wouldn't read such long books anymore.

It is interesting when you read the original and the rewrite and see how much even then schools were failing.

4 posted on 02/20/2014 4:02:12 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

After a few basic lessons in the sounds that letters make, My kids learned to read on the internet for the most part, and read WAY above their age level.


5 posted on 02/20/2014 4:03:13 PM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

I’m sure that would be interesting. I didn’t start reading Nancy Drew until the 1970s, and I don’t know how many of those were new versions vs. older ones still on library shelves or in garage sales.


6 posted on 02/20/2014 4:55:22 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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You won’t realize the huge decline in education until you see textbooks from the early part of the 20th century. Third grade to sixth grade readers had selections from Shakespeare, the Bible, Lincoln, Tennyson, Wordsworth, Rudyard Kipling and other literary giants, now read only by top students in high school and college. Hard to believe but true.


7 posted on 02/20/2014 5:08:30 PM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice

Any parent could counter that simply by reading to their children every night. Read books that are above the child’s reading level, so they can HEAR proper language, and explain words that they may not know; THAT will increase vocabulary. Then have them read to YOU so they’ll have more practice. Get them a Library Card and USE it, or, if you have a Kindle, download lots of books for them.


8 posted on 02/20/2014 5:11:31 PM PST by SuziQ
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We have millions of children in the third or fourth grade who cannot read appreciably better than when they first got there.

Malpractice. Nothing simpler than phonics. I am not a "credentialed" teacher but taught two of my tykes to read... with phonics. We didn't even finish the book and they "got it" and took off reading.

9 posted on 02/20/2014 5:12:55 PM PST by Lizavetta
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Evil.


10 posted on 02/20/2014 5:40:18 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Tax-chick

bttt


11 posted on 02/20/2014 8:22:06 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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Where was malnutrition “standard”?


12 posted on 02/21/2014 4:58:28 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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Across much of the South, for example. Remember the studies that showed pellagra was a nutrient deficiency disease, rather than communicable?


13 posted on 02/21/2014 5:22:14 AM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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In the 1960's the The Stratemeyer Syndicate had the books in the Nancy Drew, Hardy Boys and other series rewritten. They dropped the number of chapters from 25 to 20 because children wouldn't read such long books anymore.

It is interesting when you read the original and the rewrite and see how much even then schools were failing.

I recently read the Nancy Drew mystery The Hidden Staircase (New York: Grosset & Dunlap, 1930), which was a favorite of my mother's when she was growing up, and found it to be a well-written story that even grown-ups could appreciate. I started to read the revised version from the 1960's, but it was so dumbed down that it failed to hold my interest after I had read only a few pages.

14 posted on 02/23/2014 9:29:07 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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Other common illnesses caused by malnutrition that are no longer seen are goiters and rickets. My Dad had rickets as a child and it was not at all uncommon. This was in the late 40s. And then there was Scurvy.

And then there is iodine deficiency which is still the leading cause of preventable mental retardation.

15 posted on 02/23/2014 12:31:55 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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I’m reading a book about the Italian campaign in World War II, 1934-44. One point that struck me was how little food people had in Sicily and southern Italy, even before the war.


16 posted on 02/23/2014 12:47:21 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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It wasn't until the 1980s when we began having more then enough as regards to food. Since the 1950’s the supply was growing and we had less people hungry but true abundance for all in the USA wasn't until that point.

There is a reason why SciFi writers had the future being a very hungry place, they were looking at the past and projecting.

Prior to the 1950s people did starve to death in the West and the further you go back the more common it became.

17 posted on 02/23/2014 12:56:44 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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The Great Depression wasn’t even 100 years ago. I was talking about guns to someone at church yesterday, and he wondered what people storing guns and ammunition expected to happen ... the Zombie Apocalypse? I told him about the book I was reading, and observed that those people didn’t expect the Zombie Apocalypse (or the German 10th Army, or Bomber Command) either, but World War II happened all over them.

Stuff you don’t expect can happen.


18 posted on 02/23/2014 2:14:48 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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There was a gentleman following The Great War who decided that he wanted to live out his days in peace and quiet far from war. So he packed up the family and moved to Guam.

Didn't work out as planned.

19 posted on 02/23/2014 5:21:50 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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Like the man who moved from the battlefield at Gettysburg and ended up on the battlefield at Appamattox.


20 posted on 02/23/2014 5:22:46 PM PST by Tax-chick (The future is not going to take us seriously.)
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