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I observed that you are an idiot, because you think that conservatives are anti-Reagan, that is clearly idiotic.
You continue posting gibberish, even ramblings about obscure third parties, why not just spit out what you want to say.
It is clear that you want to hammer conservatives and promote Romney, why not just do it in a clear manner?
What “plan” of mine are you rambling about, what is the “bumped” that you can’t explain.

Why are you rambling about me having a “plan” and “bitching about not having anyone to vote for”, what posts are you getting this from?

OK, one last time to ensure we understand each other.

I never said conservatives are anti Reagan. I intimated that there are those on FR who wouldn't vote for Reagan because they would find some small tort or faux pas that made him "unclean in their eyes. Much like some immediately started bad-mouthing Walker and Palin for what some MSM article "reported" that they might have said. They focus so much on personal key issues that they lose sight of the big picture.

The "gibberish" about obscure third parties came directly from otherwise sane sounding FReepers during the last Presidential election - once again they lost sight of the big picture and even with Obama as the only other choice, split away from Romney because their principles made it preferable to allow Obama a second term that to vote for a RINO. Thus the Virgil Goode reference. I understand their attitude, but I still think it was stupid to pave the way for Obama than to grit teeth and vote for "the lesser". Much as I hate RINOs as much as anyone, I'm pragmatic enough to believe that if we had managed to get bat-shit-crazy McCain elected the first time, things would not be nearly as hosed as they are now - hosed for sure, but Obama Care and a lot of the rest wouldn't have gone over so steep a cliff.

I do not want to hammer conservatives and promote Romney. I hate that he was the last one standing when the smoke cleared. Perry/Cain/Gingrich etc., would have all been preferable choices. I voted Romney because I had no doubt that the damage would escalate under a second-term Obama.

When I mention a plan to those I am engaged with it's because they seem to have a solid conception of what is wrong with the system and the candidates we usually end up with. They usually mention some principles and a refusal to vote for any more tainted candidates, no matter what, and seem to think that the worse we allow it to get by not doing everything we can to give an Obama a second shot (I can understand the first time because McCain is literally insane, but Palin would have had the proverbial foot in the door) the more likely things will turn around. I believe we are at a tipping point where it might take rivers of blood to recoup our country if we don't start weeding the worst of them out even if it does entail holding our noses for a few RINOs.

The reason I bitch about folks not having a "plan" is that they usually seem so focused on not voting for another RINO, ever, that they don't seem to be pondering much on the ramifications of upholding their principles. I think we need to put all the support 9voice/time/energy/money) we can to bolster the real conservatives prior to elections. If our efforts fail to get the best candidates on the ticket, then do what it takes to keep a Dim from holding/taking a seat. Even though most RINOs stab us in the eye and are totally complicit in the left-wing philosophies, they occasionally break from the left and can at least retard some of the damage. They also focus so hard on homosexual/abortion issues as a litmus that they lose sight of the cause of the problems by targeting the symptoms.

To wrap it up: I believe that we need more conservatives like Cruz and Lee and Walker, etc., and it would be great if Palin would show up again as a candidate. I hate most of the choices we end p with, but I think we should weigh each and every election and the candidates and do whatever it takes to make even the smallest positive/not-so-bad choices. The Left has been relentless for over half a century and got where they are because they took everything they could get down to fractions of an inch. That's what got them to the point where they have no fear about making moves to crush Freedom - they garnered the power a hair at a time. If we don't use similar tactics and support anyone that's not them (once that someone is the only choice left) we will not recover. That's why Ikeep asking about a "plan" - I want to know if just not supporting anyone but a true conservative is the extent of it, or if they are actually considering what the ramifications of their strategy. If they have a rationale that makes sense, I might adopt their strategy. If they have no earthly clue about how their strategy will end up with real-world positive results, then I wonder what thought processes went into developing their strategy. A plan can't be based on what it doesn't do (elect another RINO) if it isn't also based on what it does do (chip away at the commies that are killing us).

Hope that helps. Sorry about letting it degenerate.