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just to relieve the monotony, let me argue the other side.
right now in this country, we have an epidemic of people running from the cops. its usually young Africa American males, who must have a gene that makes them right on site.
i’m not a cop and I don’t know any, but I can imagine the frustration that nowadays people don’t even have the common sense or even duty as a citizen to obey a cop.

now, of course, there will be tragedies. like the combination of a bad cop and maybe this down syndrome person.
but honestly, to me its a liberals whine to take one small example and say, we need to let people break the law.
ala Trayvon.


35 posted on 02/25/2014 10:14:18 PM PST by willywill
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right now in this country, we have an epidemic of people running from the cops.

LOL!

I can't imagine why....

42 posted on 02/25/2014 10:19:27 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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Running is not a just cause to beat the hell out of stop someone unless the cop has actual reason to believe i.e. he saw or it was reported to him that a crime was just committed nearby.
72 posted on 02/25/2014 11:01:30 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: willywill
but honestly, to me its a liberals whine to take one small example and say, we need to let people break the law
Please explain who was breaking the law and what law that would be? If Travon breaks the law then it's OK for the cops to assume everyone else is breaking the law is a very scary premise you are putting forth. I bet you loved the movie Minority Report.
129 posted on 02/26/2014 5:28:54 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: willywill

Are you aware that the modern police forms stems, in part, from 18th century slave patrols?

My question to you: why does a Free man desire to justify or defend acting subservient, as a slave to a master?

An excerpt:

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From the cop’s perspective, the expression “law-abiding citizen” is a functional synonym for “Properly obedient slave.” Not only did the uppity Mundane refuse to submit, he actually behaved as if he was the rightful owner of his person and property: “It was almost like he had the attitude of you – you cannot tell me what to do with my gun in my, you know, in my castle.”

Slave-keepers don’t have to ask permission to invade the servants’ quarters, and slaves have no right to protect the sanctity of their person or effects. In his study of 18th Century slave patrols – the largely unacknowledged ancestors of today’s “professional” police agencies — historian Philip L. Reichel points out that “patrols had full power and authority to enter any plantation and break open Negro houses or other places where slaves were suspected of keeping arms; to punish runaways or slaves found outside of their masters’ plantations without a pass; [and] to whip any slave who should affront or abuse them in the execution of their duties….”

No-knock midnight raids; gun confiscation; “stop-and-frisk”-style demands for identification that quickly escalate to violence and arrest; summary punishment for “contempt of cop” – all of these practices would be immediately recognizable to 18th century slaves. They would probably find it incomprehensible that people who consider themselves to be free would allow such practices to continue.

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2014/02/support-your-local-slave-keeper.html


135 posted on 02/26/2014 9:06:14 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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willywill said: "... we have an epidemic of people running from the cops. "

We also have an epidemic of cops who believe their authority trumps all Constitutional rights and who will lie when necessary to protect themselves. The young man says he didn't run.

138 posted on 02/26/2014 9:37:36 AM PST by William Tell
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