Posted on 02/27/2014 10:40:39 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Vegans? Or vegetarians? There's an enormous difference, nutritionally, between the two. I have known quite a few vegans over the past 36 years -- a college roommate and dear friend for decades was the first vegan I ever knew, and I knew her for 25 years and watched her health steadily deteriorate, deteriorate, deteriorate, though she blamed it on EVERYTHING but the stoooooooopid diet she decided to make her life's habit when had reached the wise age of 18 -- we all remember how smart we were at 18!
The vegan diet is for very stupid people and it is Darwinism in action. A human baby will die on a vegan diet, while a human baby will survive healthily on a vegetarian diet, though I think evidence is overwhelming that human children THRIVE on a diet that includes meat. Human children cannot become fully vegan until they are about five -- and when those children are forced to become vegan, they get big gray circles under their eyes, and are wan, listless, and dull. I HAVE SEEN MANY VEGAN CHILDREN. Vegan adults are so emotionally vested in the vanity of being vegan that they WILL HARM THEIR OWN CHILDREN to make a political point. I've SEEN it over and over and over again.
I worked a four-month temp job about ten years ago in an office with six women where three of us were meat-eaters, and the other three were vegetarians. Not vegan, but vegetarian! Clearly, they did not understand nutrition enough to eat "smart" vegetarian (it's ALL chemistry, nutrition IS ALL CHEMISTRY), but just figured they could eat anything they wanted as long as it wasn't meat, and they'd be fine. So in that four measly months that I was there, the three vegetarians each called in sick AT LEAST three times, and all three of them had "issues" with allergies. LOTS of allergies.
Of we three meat-eaters, NOT ONE SICK DAY in those four months, although one did miss a day because of some dental work. We meat-eaters used to discuss the "superior health" of the vegetarian diet and laugh ... out of earshot of the vegetarians, of course.
Vegetarian is okay, though -- many vegetarian cultures (Hindus, for example) around the world have survived and even thrived for centuries, because they know the chemistry of proper nutrition and the tiny bits of animal protein (dairy, eggs) necessary to maintain human health. VEGAN, however, is a dead end nutritionally if you are homo sapiens. There are exactly ZERO vegan civilizations in world history. The reason: any vegan civilization would last for exactly 1.5 generations, and then die.
We don't get to choose to skip animal protein because we don't want to "hurt animals" any more than we get to choose to ignore gravity because we'd rather fly. Vegan is a little-girl mentality, the little girl who wants a pony and just knows that the pony can live in the backyard!!! "It can, it can, it can because I WANT it to!!!"
Vegans are stupid. Adult vegans who subject children to veganism, are indulging in child abuse.
So. You ate grilled lettuce?
True for grownups. But you CAN tell when a child is vegan. They have gray circles under their eyes, are thin and wan, and as very young children, are listless. When you are in a health food store or some other such vegan-rich environment and see such sickly sad looking kids, ask and you will find that I am correct. They're vegans.
Adults who force or encourage children to become vegans, are vain monsters who need their asses kicked.
From Gourmet, to Artisan and now to Artisanal...what is next?
Interesting info about meat and osteoporosis. I remember when Bill Walton became a vegan during his bb career, and he was always breaking bones. Correlation does not mean causation, but I remember reading the comments of a doctor who examined Walton’s feet and stated he thought it sure looked like osteopororis to him. Walton later came down with severe back problems as well as his other ailments. Did his vegan diet lead to his problems with breaking bones? Nothing was ever proved, but I’m wondering if Walton thought about the possible ill effects of veganism.
Just checkin’ They wuz talking about grilling rabbit food and eatin’ it earlier. That’s a far cry from grill wrapping that keeps the pig juices in and slows the burning.... Thanks,
They are vegetarian and have been for years.
Think I read recently about a case of a child who was fed vegan and died.
Personally I could do without red meat, even white meat and just do wild caught fish but might be too hard for me to be a real vegetarian. However, based on the people I know I ought to try it.
I did read an article by an English guy who for years couldn’t bring himself to eat meat and he had over a decade of unexplained illnesses. Finally he ate some meat and in less than a week he was way better. It was quite interesting - maybe your personal chemistry defines if you can survive without meat or not.
I remember reading about this many, many years ago, so I tried to see if it was archived somewhere on this newfangled internet thingy.
After the the close of WWII and Indian independence, many Hindus opted to settle in Great Britain. They ate their traditional foods, imported from abroad. This population of Hindus began to show signs of malnutrition.
Analysis of their imported foodstuffs did not provide an answer. It was only when the same foodstuffs were analyzed back in their homeland was the riddle solved. There was so much bug contamination, it was supplementing their vegetarian diet. This contamination was absent in the British versions, due to strict import controls.
No one would doubt for a moment that eating meat can be harmful if he’d spent as many years as I have in Cheeseburgers Anonymous....
A most beloved niece is the latest victim to the New Age Dark Age Vegan fad. I've seen what Veganism does to women wanting to bear children. Like I said, Darwinism in action. Not to mention an extravagant waste of resources, environmentally. These asshats all seem to think that crops and textiles (clothing) don't exist at the price of a lot of water, land, and manipulation. Dopes -- that broccoli they and I love (Sorry, HW), that great California Pinot Noir, all those wonderful peaches, the tomatoes in my marinara sauce, etc. etc. etc. -- the production of all of it requires death of animals. It kills all the birds and snakes and lizards and foxes, etc., that used to live on the land where the crops grow now. Lack of water in certain creeks and rivers and lakes kills frogs and fish and who knows what else. Meanwhile, all those critters THRIVE in land where livestock grazes ... but that's supposed to be bad because that's mean to animals, that's meat and dairy, and Vegans think that's awful.
Bah. Dopes.
... maybe your personal chemistry defines if you can survive without meat or not.
I think you're right, absolutely. Individual chemistry and genetitics probably determine to a huge degree the kind of diet best for some people. Anybody can survive without meat, for sure. Maybe not as hardily, or maybe at the mercy of some man-made nutritional supplement for optimum equivalence. As for vegans -- if Tom Cruise actually is vegan, which I doubt, but IF he is, then I guaran-damn-tee that he is taking lots and lots of man-made "vegan" nutritional supplements that cost a mint and which probably contain some trace (or more than a trace!) of some animal-derived essential, such as B-12.
Personally, I don't see any sensible reason to forego meat unless one thinks that it is healthier for the body. Empirical evidence to me indicates that meat nutrition as part of a balanced omnivorous intake low on sugars is super efficient, but that one can get along okay without it if one is smart enough to figure out dairy/egg vegetable combinations to balance the outcome. It seems like a lot of trouble to me! And I am a meat lover to the degree that I like quite a lot of red meat raw or virtually raw. I like my fish raw, too!!!! {^)
Cook it like you would beef but since it is less lean the cooking time is shorter. Plus, if you have any bones give them to the dogs. Buffalo bones are much harder than beef bones and last longer. Plus the dogs will love it.
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