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What’s Behind The Growing Pile Of Dead Banker Bodies? Here's a background of some of the dead...
Personal Liberty ^ | 02/25/2014 | Bob Livingston

Posted on 03/01/2014 8:24:03 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

suicidal ping


21 posted on 03/02/2014 6:48:52 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: Thermalseeker
Oh so typical American short term thinking

Short term thinking? How has gold done versus inflation over the last 200 years?

22 posted on 03/02/2014 6:49:53 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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You do understand the difference between money and currency, right? Who fared best in the Wiemar Republic? Those with paper currency, or those who preserved their wealth with gold and silver? Gold and silver have been the world’s money for 6000 years. I think that pretty well trumps the past 200 years. Knowledge of history is the key to successfully navigating the future. When you talk about using gold and silver in this manner you’re talking about wealth preservation, not an investment strategy. Short term gains or losses are meaningless.


23 posted on 03/02/2014 7:20:24 AM PST by Thermalseeker (If ignorance is bliss how come there aren't more happy people?)
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To: Thermalseeker
When you talk about using gold and silver in this manner you’re talking about wealth preservation, not an investment strategy.

Wasn't very good preservation from 1980-1999. Or 2011 until today.

Short term gains or losses are meaningless.

Unless you need to sell some today.

24 posted on 03/02/2014 7:25:23 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why bankers, and not the leadership of the agencies which will be tasked with disarming us, the order givers?


25 posted on 03/02/2014 9:28:27 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

“Nope, sorry. They lend out less than deposits, not multiples of deposits.”

Ha, ha, funny! (suggest look-up “fractional reserve banking”)


26 posted on 03/02/2014 10:42:10 AM PST by Daffy
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While I don't pretend to be an expert, your statement is completely ludicrous. The FRS, while sold as an insurance scheme, quickly became a fractional repository. To put it plainly, if you can loan out 90% with a 10% deposit, what could you loan out if you deposited 90%.

It's not rocket science, and the actual amount of global currency held in derivatives is in the quadrillions. The purported 16 or 17 trillion US debt doesn't constitute a significant fraction of the liabilities in the market.

27 posted on 03/02/2014 11:02:34 AM PST by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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To: Daffy
Nope, sorry. They lend out less than deposits, not multiples of deposits.

Ha, ha, funny! (suggest look-up “fractional reserve banking”)

Good idea.

Okay, looked it up. It appears that when you have a bank with demand deposits, they only keep a fraction of the deposits in reserve, while they lend out the rest.

Since a fraction is less than multiples, it sounds like my original claim is correct.

28 posted on 03/02/2014 12:23:09 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: antidisestablishment
While I don't pretend to be an expert, your statement is completely ludicrous.

Which statement?

To put it plainly, if you can loan out 90% with a 10% deposit, what could you loan out if you deposited 90%.

You can loan out 90%, while holding 10% in reserve.

So a single $1000 deposit allows $900 in loans.

It's not rocket science, and the actual amount of global currency held in derivatives is in the quadrillions.

Derivatives are like options, currency is not "held in them".

The purported 16 or 17 trillion US debt doesn't constitute a significant fraction of the liabilities in the market.

Liabilities are offset, one for one, by assets. Not sure what you're trying to say.

29 posted on 03/02/2014 12:30:47 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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What I'm saying is that the reserve is a farce. With a 90% deposit, you can loan 90% x 9, or 810%. The reserve calculation assumes 10% is the reserve, leaving 90% for operation, but the ratio stays the same when the deposit increases.

These liabilities are not tied to real properties or assets. All of the financial assets in history do not equal the liabilities in the markets today. They may be “backed” by paper, but there is little relation to physical assets. Do you not recall the Housing bubble, the Dot Con? Were these backed?

How do you think an infinite money supply can be backed? The past 10 years would be characterized as money laundering if anyone but the Fed did it. The banks and the Fed have colluded to print the stock market up without any reflective increase in earnings. How do we have a 0% interest rate in concert with inflation? Does that make any economic sense? How are banks able to finance these massive portfolios?

30 posted on 03/02/2014 3:05:02 PM PST by antidisestablishment (Islam delenda est)
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With a 90% deposit, you can loan 90% x 9, or 810%.

There are no 90% deposits.

There are only dollar deposits.

A $1000 deposit allows $900 in loans. Why is that a problem?

These liabilities are not tied to real properties or assets.

Which liabilities? Be specific.

All of the financial assets in history do not equal the liabilities in the markets today.

Every liability is someone elses asset.

31 posted on 03/02/2014 3:14:07 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

bttt


32 posted on 03/06/2014 8:43:15 PM PST by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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