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Roadside adventures with small-town cops in Electra, Texas
Dallas News ^ | February 28, 2014 | Rodger Jones

Posted on 03/03/2014 8:44:18 AM PST by Altariel

Here’s a YouTube that the Electra, Texas, convention and visitors bureau probably would like to see disappear from the firmament.

It shows what can happen when cops with a bad attitude come up behind you at night and end up accusing you of the bad attitude.

You can end up driving off with a couple of bogus tickets. Or, if you’re like the guy who produced the video, you can stand your ground and beat them at their own game.

Ask yourself how you would handle something like this. You can imagine these two cops were the overgrown bully-boys who had their way with the underclassmen in the high school locker room. Then someone gave them badges and guns.

The most chilling words you’ll hear in this episode came from the now-former city attorney, Todd Greenwood, who conceded there are hazards of getting caught up in a small town. Especially for outsiders. “Ever hear of the movie Deliverance?” he asked the out-of-towner. Creepy.

Later, Greenwood said: “What’s written in the Constitution is one thing, and the real practice is another, and you’re not in the same kind of protection as you have in Allen and Plano and Richardson and places like that.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasmorningviewsblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; electra; texas

1 posted on 03/03/2014 8:44:18 AM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

I think all US cars should have dashcams


2 posted on 03/03/2014 8:45:33 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Altariel

The cops were completely justified and any freeper here who thinks otherwwise should go back to DUmmie land...

(I am being sracastic and getting in the first bootlicker freeper comment before the actual bootlickers make an appearence)


3 posted on 03/03/2014 8:48:04 AM PST by GraceG
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To: Altariel

Save for later


4 posted on 03/03/2014 8:50:50 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: GeronL

[ I think all US cars should have dashcams ]

Just as all americans are supposed to have the freedom of speech, we also have the inherent “right to record” as an inherent right.

Record pronounced like the “world record” and not “VCR record” type.

It was in the old days called “testimony” as the founders did not foresee devices that could record light and sound. And it was so universal back then there was nothing put inthe constiution except that the government cannot force you to use your own testimony against yourself.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 8:51:53 AM PST by GraceG
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To: GraceG

Why ya’ll always rippin on the PO-lice? Most are good.... .... because of a few bad apples......yadda, yadda, yadda....

(like that?)

Lol


6 posted on 03/03/2014 8:53:20 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (My whimsical litany of satyric prose and avarice pontification of wisdom demonstrates my concinnity.)
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To: Altariel

Article is behind a subscription wall.
Could you please post a link to the Youtube video?
Thanks.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 8:54:26 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: GraceG

“The cops were completely justified and any freeper here who thinks otherwwise should go back to DUmmie land...

(I am being sracastic and getting in the first bootlicker freeper comment before the actual bootlickers make an appearence)

Did you beat the first badge lapper or just the boot lickers?

;-)


8 posted on 03/03/2014 8:55:10 AM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: GraceG

They [cops] always are. The crappy attitude kicks in when you object to them filling you full of lead or beating your brains out.


9 posted on 03/03/2014 8:55:13 AM PST by sport
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To: Altariel

“Small-Town” “Police(cops)” are “good” for 3 “Things”:
1. Revenue “Generation(Speed/Stop Sign TRAPS)”
2. Trying to “score” Local High School “Chicks”
3. Trying to find “new” places to SLEEP thier “shift” “Away”

Oh and I forget GETTING FREE FOOD ANY way they can.

“Small-Town(and some not so small town)” “police” are by in large WORTHLESS as TITS on a Boar Hog!


10 posted on 03/03/2014 8:56:24 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: GraceG

I wasn’t aware there were any lickers and lappers left. Even the former LEOs here are pissed at the current crop of Billy-Club Bullies.


11 posted on 03/03/2014 8:59:58 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: LegendHasIt; All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emmoJvpSGyw


12 posted on 03/03/2014 9:00:33 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Texas is very misunderstood here!

They do have the very worst thugs in the country in their small fiefdoms.
.


13 posted on 03/03/2014 9:02:08 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Altariel

Thank you very much!


14 posted on 03/03/2014 9:02:18 AM PST by LegendHasIt
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The Same People Donate Over And Over

Getting The Rest To Donate Shouldn't Be Like This.......


Click The Pic To Donate

Donate

15 posted on 03/03/2014 9:02:50 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Altariel

““Ever hear of the movie Deliverance?” he asked the out-of-towner.”

Out-of-towner should have then said to the cop, “Oh! You were the one playing the banjo, weren’t you?”


16 posted on 03/03/2014 9:06:23 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GraceG

But, but, but.. did the officers go home safe that night? /s


17 posted on 03/03/2014 9:06:53 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Altariel

It’s been well known since the 60’s that it’s best to not draw any attention to ourself when traveling in Texas.


18 posted on 03/03/2014 9:09:38 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Texans will come to regret ceding their liberty to government employees.

This nonsense should have been nipped in the bud back then.


19 posted on 03/03/2014 9:11:46 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: GeronL

> I think all US cars should have dashcams

The NSA thinks so too as long there are both foward and rear facing cameras


20 posted on 03/03/2014 9:15:42 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Cyber Liberty; Alaska Wolf

Wolfie this one is for you.

I am mid forties. I grew up with parents who preached respect for the law and respect for LEO.

I think that is typical for my parents generation, and for mine.

However as I grew up and experienced the “freedoms” this country offered, and compared that to my readings of Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, and many others I become disillusioned. Then I ran into the “give law enforcement the benefit of the doubt crowd”, probably from my parents generation.

The fact is that the liberties enshrined in the Constitution, and in English Common Law are not even entertained in reality. We live in a Police State. I don’t understand why voters fund municipal courts and police. i always vote no. No to new buildings. No to new computer systems. No to new cars. No. No. NO. But these bills always pass. Somebody, a whole lot of somebodies vote yes.

If a member of Law Enforcement is reading this, here is my message to you: Your institution has squandered the blind and unyielding support of the law abiding members of society. When the riots come, and the crowd pulls you out of your car and lights you on fire I will just watch you burn.

Your “profession” is a corrupt protection racket and good riddance. Have a nice day.


21 posted on 03/03/2014 9:16:28 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Altariel

M4L


22 posted on 03/03/2014 9:16:48 AM PST by Scrambler Bob ("The Pen" has a nice ring to it, kind of like "Graybar Hotel")
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To: LegendHasIt

Try this and skip ad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=emmoJvpSGyw


23 posted on 03/03/2014 9:17:21 AM PST by deport
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To: Altariel

Honestly the man was lucky that he was not killed by the cops on the side of the road. Very lucky.


24 posted on 03/03/2014 9:21:48 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: jsanders2001

lol


25 posted on 03/03/2014 9:22:19 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Altariel

Electra is on the ‘short-cut’ from Dallas to Denver. Sounds like it is the Ludowici of Texas.


26 posted on 03/03/2014 9:23:42 AM PST by TexasGator
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To: Cyber Liberty

I’m a former LEO and I don’t approve of the current thuggery either ESPECIALLY gun grabbing and keeping concerned and patriotic citizens from protesting, paticularly when its well justified! FYI - small town cops have been carrying on like this forever. We just weren’t as connected before. Now everybody has cameras built into their phones and they can post whatever they recoreded on Youtube within minutes of taking it. Now we see this type of stuff immediatelu instead of having to wait several days to hear about it from a MSM news outlet.


27 posted on 03/03/2014 9:24:33 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: GeronL
I think all US cars should have dashcams

They're pretty universal in Russia and becoming increasingly common in the rest of Europe as aftermarket accessories because of their utility in traffic court disputes and such.

28 posted on 03/03/2014 9:27:17 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: TexasGator

If you travel anywhere up 287 from Wichita Falls to Amarillo, TX you will find that there are many small towns that get their revenue by targeting out—of-towners. I imagine a sting operation up and own that corrider would land almost half of their LEOs in jail. Just my .02


29 posted on 03/03/2014 9:27:30 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: GraceG; Alaska Wolf; doc1019; TexasFreeper2009

JBT Ping list


30 posted on 03/03/2014 9:36:23 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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Bkmk video


31 posted on 03/03/2014 9:38:49 AM PST by Faith65 (Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior!)
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To: Altariel

Well after reviewing the footage I think I know where the victim went astray. When he made the jackboot comment. That’s called escalation and he should have stopped there. He was right in telling the officer to stop searching the vehicle. Clearly the officer was conducting a search but using the liberal tactic of renaming it to “not a search” He opened the door and stuck his head inside and even leaned over clearly violating the 4th amendment. He should be fired or at minimum suspended without pay. It was very obvious this “team” uses this tactic to go on fishing expeditions and most likely use it often.


32 posted on 03/03/2014 9:40:08 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

“If you travel anywhere up 287 from Wichita Falls to Amarillo, TX you will find that there are many small towns that get their revenue by targeting out—of-towners. I imagine a sting operation up and own that corrider would land almost half of their LEOs in jail. Just my .02..”

On that very route Guthrie, TX was once considered the speed trap capital of West Texas. May still be. Lone city cop in that little town drove an orange Mustang for a patrol car. He was a renowned, infamous ticket writing fool.


33 posted on 03/03/2014 9:49:57 AM PST by FAA
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To: jsanders2001

Not just small town cops.

Big city municipal courts, bailbondsmen, tow truck companies, local attorneys, political machines have been preying on the public for years. Many people believe that without this municipal machinery chaos would reign. I say it reigns but the tyranny is worst under color of law.

LE is a disgraceful profession. Anybody, from the clerks to the judges, prosecutors and defense attorneys are making a living laughing down their sleeves at the voters.

People who become LEO, probably don’t go into it knowing what they are getting into. But the whole system is corrupt. Judges are just welfare for law school grads. It is a ridiculous money making scheme that people vote for out of fear.


34 posted on 03/03/2014 9:51:20 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: jsanders2001

Listened to the trial. Greenwood needs to be disbarred immediately. Completely inappropriate statements that were intended to intimidate the defendant. Definitely typical small town slimeball prosectuor tactics that exemplify exactly what is wrong with small town traffic court system in full display. Its a good thing the defendant was videoing and taping everything.


35 posted on 03/03/2014 9:55:31 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Altariel; Titan Magroyne; mylife
God bless this guy for taking them on. His only mistake was talking with them at all, but admittedly, they caught him outside of the vehicle and he had no way of knowing this would go south so quickly. Standard procedure for a traffic stop when you know you haven't done anything wrong:

1. Stay in the vehicle, doors locked, window cracked enough to hear and be heard.
2. Ask, "Am I under arrest?" If you are under arrest, you are obliged to identify yourself and submit, otherwise ...
3. Ask, "Am I free to go?"
4. Repeat as necessary.

You are not obliged to say anything else. Anything else you might say WILL be used against you, so say nothing, especially if you are arrested. The days of polite cops who know the law are gone. Miranda says "Anything you say Can and Will be used against you"... Not might and maybe.

If you are arrested, you must submit, but as this video and court proceedings prove, you are under no obligation to identify yourself unless you are under arrest. Citing him for "Failure to Identify" when he wasn't under arrest was bogus. Searching (both the vehicle and his person) without probable cause or a warrant was bogus. Citing him for failure to produce a Driver's license when he wasn't driving was bogus.

This guy should file the 1983 against the cops, the prosecutor and the judge imho. If citizens don't start pushing back, things will only get worse.
42 U.S.C. § 1983 (US Code - Section 1983): Civil action for deprivation of rights:

Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer's judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.

36 posted on 03/03/2014 10:47:01 AM PST by Drumbo ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats." - Jubal Harshaw (Robert A. Heinlein))
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To: jsanders2001

The Judge is culpable as well. Traffic court is a partnership between the city, the D.A. and the Judges. That is true EVERYWHERE. Why people are not mad i just don’t understand. These clerks, judges, cops, prosecutors are all paid with public funds approved by elected officials. ELECTED! That means somebody voted for this. Take away the public funds and you remove the power. Shutter the municipal court and lease the space for something useful. Like icecream stands or sandwich shops.


37 posted on 03/03/2014 11:06:50 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: Altariel

The guy should have first played the entire video and then started the commentary, I don’t want to sit through 19 minutes to eventually get to see what happened.


38 posted on 03/03/2014 11:23:39 AM PST by ansel12 (Ben Bradlee -- JFK told me that "he was all for people's solving their problems by abortion".)
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To: DariusBane

> The Judge is culpable as well. Traffic court is a partnership between the city, the D.A. and the Judges. That is true EVERYWHERE. Why people are not mad i just don’t understand.

Because everyone got too busy, too distracted, too fat and too lazy, and too complacent. Now that our liberties are at stake and we realize that a foreign Invader was installed to remove all of our constitutionl protections and take over our nation we are finally waking up. It was a clever move and took much planning but now the cat’s out of the bag. Now if we can just awaken the slow-learners and racially blinded we might have a good chance of turning this around.


39 posted on 03/03/2014 1:44:25 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: deport

Thanks!


40 posted on 03/03/2014 7:38:08 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: jsanders2001
Now if we can just awaken the slow-learners and racially blinded we might have a good chance of turning this around.

That's a mighty big IF you have going there jsanders2001.

41 posted on 03/04/2014 7:59:14 AM PST by houeto (We intend to liberate Democrats from the dreaded Job-Lock this November!)
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To: DariusBane

Excellent post.


42 posted on 03/04/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: GraceG
the first bootlicker freeper

You appear to be the only "bootlicker freeper" around.

Better trolling next time. Maybe if you insult their mama.

43 posted on 03/04/2014 1:20:04 PM PST by laotzu
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To: Drumbo

Fantastic, also pretty friggin amazing that the prosc’s mouth kept running even as the tape kept rollin.

And here’s the other you mentioned to me in private conversation, where they’ve flipped the view rightside up & it’s easier than the original to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNjaEVFiku0


44 posted on 03/06/2014 12:08:29 AM PST by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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