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"Behind The Kiev Snipers It Was Somebody From The New Coalition", A Stunning New Leak Reveals
Zero Hedge ^ | March 5, 2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 03/05/2014 7:08:50 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Edited on 03/05/2014 7:10:22 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The last time a leaked phone call out of Ukraine was released about a month ago ostensibly by the Russian NSA equivalent, one between US assistant sec state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt, it was revealed that the real puppet masters behind the Maidan movement, and the true instigators of the Ukraine "revolution" were none other than the "developed" world superpowers, lead by the US.


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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: alexjones; eu; kiev; nuland; nutjob; pyatt; snipers; soros; ukraine; ukrainecrisis

1 posted on 03/05/2014 7:08:50 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Russia’s pulling out all the propaganda stops.


2 posted on 03/05/2014 7:11:53 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Admin Moderator

Thanks for taking out the profanity (from the U.S. diplomat). I forgot to do that!


3 posted on 03/05/2014 7:12:14 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: VeniVidiVici

Estonia confirms that the recording is accurate. Try again.


4 posted on 03/05/2014 7:12:37 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

False flag snipers were used to start the foreign backed overthrow of the government in Syria as well. This tactic is straight out of the Globalists’ playbook.


5 posted on 03/05/2014 7:17:26 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Who paid the Kiev snipers? And who paid who paid them?


6 posted on 03/05/2014 7:22:25 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: VeniVidiVici

Ashton confirms it is a leaked recording.

I believe it was recorded by the SBU, Ukraine’s version of the CIA.


7 posted on 03/05/2014 7:23:38 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
So there is now stronger and stronger understanding that behind the snipers, it was not Yanukovych, but it was somebody from the new coalition.

So first US orchestrates the Kiev overthrow, and now the new "leaders" of Ukraine are allegedly found to have fired against their own people - the same provocation they subsequently used to run Yanukovich out of the country and install a pro-Western puppet government.

Maidan lovers be proud.

8 posted on 03/05/2014 7:24:25 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Bingo


9 posted on 03/05/2014 7:25:24 AM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: VeniVidiVici

Or George Soros and the EU bureaucrats were just being the exact same socialists they have always been and you (and people like you) never even considered that as a possibility. Because they can fool you every time.

Which is true?

Both are possible.


10 posted on 03/05/2014 7:26:58 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Navy Patriot

If true, the U.S. is supporting a neo-Nazi regime that came to power by killing Ukrainian civilians in a false flag frame job.

Why does the Kiev regime/EU/US not want to investigate the shooters?


11 posted on 03/05/2014 7:28:31 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Navy Patriot

I say “if true”, because we don’t know for sure yet.

But I suspect it is true.


12 posted on 03/05/2014 7:31:12 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Rather than misleading, these reports may also give important clues to who is really behind these callous murders. “Disinformation,” the story of Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, (the highest level Soviet era intelligence officer to defect) gives insight to actual multi-level complex disinformation ops, and thus a bird-watchers guide to recognizing the patterns. Hint: the same M.O. is used over & over.


13 posted on 03/05/2014 7:37:07 AM PST by Veristhorne (Just the Facts M'am, just the Facts)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Well, we gave Ukraine a billion dollars from the US taxpayers to buy higher-priced Russian natural gas. Who is the real loser in this? The Democrats cut the military and siphon money to Russia.


14 posted on 03/05/2014 7:38:17 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: VeniVidiVici

Ya think?

Fact: Soros has been trying to buy Ukraine for over 20 years. Now, where do you think he is sending his money? Roads and hospitals? Or political/economic destabilization?

Another question: What foreign policy experts in this feckless administration, flush with “victory” in Libya and “defeat” in Egypt and Syria, would not meddle in Ukrainian politics to support “Ukraine Spring” against that nasty homophobe, Putin?


15 posted on 03/05/2014 7:44:49 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Both principals confirm that this conversation took place, and Estonia is not exactly pro-Russian. Unless you think Olga from the Ukranian Civil Society group is a Russian plant, this is *not* Russian propaganda, even if it does lend support to Putin’s position.


16 posted on 03/05/2014 7:45:43 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Why does the Kiev regime/EU/US not want to investigate the shooters?

Because all three were in on it from the start.

Remember false flag or provocation incidents from US history: WWI Lusitania sunk, Vietnam Tonkin Gulf Incident, Serbia false accusations of genocide and covering of KLA Muslin Kosovo crimes.

US NWO always there.

17 posted on 03/05/2014 7:46:24 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

If this information is true, it changes everything, or at least it should.


18 posted on 03/05/2014 7:48:23 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Soros was shooting.
19 posted on 03/05/2014 7:50:51 AM PST by Grzegorz 246
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Ya mean, the same administration that ran a war by Obama executive order vs Libya to benefit the EU bankers that now own the Libyan oil industry, that bungled a still-uninvestigated Benghazi gun running operation with Morsi’s MB al Qaeda admirers and panicked when our Ambassador was set up and tortured to death, and then tried to use a false flag chem weapons attack to send Assad a “very small war” of Saudi purchased, US delivered cruise missiles?

How could that be?


20 posted on 03/05/2014 7:52:34 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: The_Reader_David

You have someone repeating something that someone else told them. Could be anything—useful propaganda, some value as disinformation, or representative of the truth


21 posted on 03/05/2014 7:56:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Agree. But why is the Kiev regime, EU and US not wanting to investigate the shooters?


22 posted on 03/05/2014 8:00:38 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
If this information is true, it changes everything, or at least it should.

Yes, it should, but notice that by the time false flag trickery is proven, the damage is done, and the course set.

US enters WWI on side of the liars and shifts advantage and war profits to the English.

US loses credibility, war and 58,000 in Vietnam, but war profits go to same group.

Serbia, US, NATO lose credibility in Europe, Muslim drug dealers, white slavers and kidnap for profit criminals gain entire province in Kosovo, and same old group gain war profits.

23 posted on 03/05/2014 8:25:19 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

From the official web-site of Estonian Ministry of Foreign Affairs -

http://www.vm.ee/?q=node/19353

The recording of a telephone conversation between Foreign Minister Urmas Paet and High Representative Catherine Ashton that has been leaked online is authentic.


24 posted on 03/05/2014 8:30:09 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity; Navy Patriot

Good question.

Also listen to this:

http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadcast/Entries/2014/3/1_Dr._Paul_Craig_Roberts.html

Compares well with what was said in leaked telephone conversation


25 posted on 03/05/2014 8:36:19 AM PST by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: Navy Patriot
Sounds likely - if one recalls how Ceaușescu's police were treated when the worm turned.
26 posted on 03/05/2014 8:38:02 AM PST by glorgau
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
It's authentic, and it is reasonable to assume that Obama and the US government knew by February 27, 2014.

Now consider all US EU and NATO statement propaganda since that date.

27 posted on 03/05/2014 8:43:42 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

I don’t know the full details. However, in post-soviet states like Ukraine, private gun ownership is basically banned. Thus, this scenario would require illegal importation of guns past Ukrainian security. Not to say that it isn’t possible, but I have my doubts that the Maidan people would have access to guns, and would also be trained snipers,


28 posted on 03/05/2014 8:49:33 AM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Anyone, who defends anything this administration does or backs them when they deny their lies is either stupid or a paid troll.

We have seen how their lies have subverted Libya and killed innocent Americans in Benghazi.

They got caught in trying back the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt.

Later they tried to back the al queda killers in Syria and wanted a so called limited war.

Obozo and his thugs are the puppets of Soros.


29 posted on 03/05/2014 8:55:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: silverleaf
Fact: Soros has been trying to buy Ukraine for over 20 years. Now, where do you think he is sending his money? Roads and hospitals? Or political/economic destabilization?


30 posted on 03/05/2014 8:58:09 AM PST by Grampa Dave ( Obozo Care is a Trinity of Lies! Obozo Care is probably a serious Black Swan event.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
Still posting your master Vlad's propaganda I see.
31 posted on 03/05/2014 9:33:42 AM PST by Red White and Blue patriot (USA all the way. Love it or Leave it. Better dead than Red. Putin = Hitler 2014)
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Listen to the tape before that point!

It shows that Paet is relaying what one protester he talked to told him. This propaganda piece attributes that claim to Paet.

It is coming up with an article quote:

“the protesters killed themselves”, says the minister

from a full phrase “I talked to one girl who thinks the protesters killed themselves”


32 posted on 03/05/2014 9:38:58 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Red White and Blue patriot

That transcript reads to me like someone who starts blathering about UFOs and the other person is just humoring them. The “Gosh” is the giveaway.


33 posted on 03/05/2014 9:43:59 AM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
The videos of Berkut troops lying on the ground and shooting protesters right next to other Berkut troops-- those were all faked, too?

Why is anyone here defending Yanukovich or Putin?

34 posted on 03/05/2014 9:48:43 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Kinda difficult now, when they’ve moved to Russia./s


35 posted on 03/05/2014 9:49:50 AM PST by pierrem15 (Claudius: "Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out.")
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To: VeniVidiVici

The tape between US assistant sec state Victoria Nuland and the US envoy to the Ukraine, Geoffrey Pyatt may have been leaked by Russia but it was real.


36 posted on 03/05/2014 10:26:55 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: 1rudeboy

That’s why I allowed the possibility that Olga was a Russian plant, in which case it would be propaganda or, really, disinformation. The thing is Estonia is very anti-Russian, and the Estonian Foreign Minister credited her testimony, even though it’s very much in line with Putins’ position.


37 posted on 03/05/2014 10:32:51 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity; Navy Patriot

The Ukes did it or didn’t do it!!! Did they?

To paraphrase “the rest of the story” from StratFor, a respected for fee biz/gov intelligence service to which I subscribe which has copyright threats all over the place:

1. The story was originally released by Russia Times as we know....can you say Pravda? Tass maybe?

2. The conversation was real and intercepted by somebody’s NSA equivalent.....wonder whose since it was released by RT?

3. Estonian Foreign Minister Urmas Paet was indeed on a phone call with EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton on Feb 26 after his return from Kiev.

4. The Estonian Foreign Ministry Paet authenticated the phone call in a statement released by his office. Paet said through his office statement that he was merely relating what he had heard BUT REJECTED “the claim that Paet was giving an assessment of the opposition’s involvement in the violence.”

In other words, Paet was relating hearsay, gossip, water cooler talk, unsubstantiated rumors, etc. (called in the diplomatic biz “bullshite”) and it was taken out of context and twisted/used for propaganda purposes by RT aka....typical Ruskie trickery and obfuscation.

As opposed to typical EU or US trickery and obfuscation which I am sure is out there.

Katyn Forest Massacre anyone? Those pesky Nazi’s, or maybe not. WMD’s? Those pesky Iraqi’s....or not.

This leak smells like the NBC Zimmerman 911 tapes re-edit scam all over again. Heck, they may accuse Zimmerman of being the shooter soon.

Now I would be impressed, and not even surprised, probably grateful even, if someone released a smoking gun tape (pun intended) that had Soros conspiring to do it.


38 posted on 03/05/2014 12:54:04 PM PST by Lowell1775
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To: Lowell1775

Here-say or not, it was spoken, so we must assume that it is possible. And knowing the US government like we know the US government now, (NSA Spying, IRS Political Targeting, Supporting the Muslim Brotherhood, Using Islamic Terrorists in Syria, Obama Negating the Law Forbidding the US to Give Aid to Terrorist, etc.). We must assume that the US government is at least capable of doing this.


39 posted on 03/05/2014 1:20:48 PM PST by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

European diplomats are commenting on hearsay, it’s not a smoking gun.

The real story is that they can’t protect their phone lines from the Russians if their lives depended on it.


40 posted on 03/05/2014 3:50:02 PM PST by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Navy Patriot

That’s right: follow the money.

The CIA is not loyal to the US, nor is the KGB loyal to Russia.


41 posted on 03/06/2014 7:46:21 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: SisterK
That’s right: follow the money.

The CIA is not loyal to the US, nor is the KGB loyal to Russia.

While the KGB has been disbanded and replaced by the FSB, your point is still valid, there are several factions in each, and few, if any, have loyalty to the citizens of the nations they "serve".

42 posted on 03/07/2014 6:10:28 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: justa-hairyape; Lowell1775
We must assume that the US government is at least capable of doing this.

Also, judging by the the Obama - Rat regime record of lying, stonewalling, preventing investigation and cover up of facts and incidents in the US that we KNOW to exist and occurred, we must conclude that the US is the criminal instigator in a false flag frame up.

43 posted on 03/07/2014 6:23:01 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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