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Secret list: Having your name on this secret Michigan list of 275,000 people could cost you your job
WXYZ (Detroit) ^ | March 20, 2014 | Heather Catallo

Posted on 03/22/2014 9:25:32 AM PDT by Altariel

LANSING, Mich. (WXYZ) - It’s a secret list that can cost you your family or your job. Once you’re on it, it can be very hard to get off. While some changes are being made to the law, many experts say it doesn’t go far enough.

The state maintains something called the Michigan Child Abuse and Neglect Central Registry and the sole power to label you an abuser lies not with a judge or a jury, but with child protective services workers.

And you may be surprised at how the state can define “abuse.”

Anita Belle says she’s never been convicted of a crime. But Belle’s name has been put on the Central Registry as a child abuser.

“Where is the due process,” asked Belle.

The Central Registry is maintained by Child Protective Services workers inside Michigan’s Department of Human Services, or DHS.

Right now, there are about 275,000 people on that secret list and many of them don’t even realize they are on it. You don’t have to be found guilty in court to be put on the registry. All it takes is the word of CPS staffers to label you an abuser, which can prevent you from getting certain jobs or doing volunteer work.

“A sex offender gets to be convicted beyond a reasonable doubt, and then they’re placed on the sex offender registry, but parents and grandparents and teachers -- for goodness sake, a child could just make up something,” Belle told 7 Action News Investigator Heather Catallo.

It was Anita Belle’s granddaughter who accused her and other relatives of spanking. And Belle’s case shows just how inconsistent the rules to get on the list can be: her CPS investigative report recommends Belle NOT be labeled an abuser.

“In your CPS report they say you should not be put on the central registry,” asked Catallo “That’s correct,” said Belle. “So how did you get put on the registry,” asked Catallo. “I don’t know,” said Belle.

As the law stands now, once you’re on the registry -- you’re on for life. You can ask for a hearing in front of an administrative law judge to be taken off the list, although that’s not easy to do.

But the law is changing in September. The new law will limit your time on the registry to 10 years, unless you were put on the list for criminal sexual conduct, battery, life threatening injuries, abandonment, or exposing a child to methamphetamine production.

But those labels are not always what they seem: the 7 Investigators have documented many cases of parents being accused of abandonment or neglect when they were simply trying to get help for the children from the state.

“The current reforms don’t go far enough,” said attorney Elizabeth Warner, who is suing the Governor, DHS and other state officials because she says the secret list is unconstitutional.

“You should be given an opportunity before the harm happens, to get a fair hearing,” said Warner.

Warner says CPS has too much power.

“You just get on the registry, by a push of the button. By one worker,” said Warner. “With no verification that the crime was actually committed,” asked Catallo. “They believe that their investigation, even if it’s one sided, is all they need to ruin somebody’s life,” said Warner.

“What do you say to the people who say CPS has way too much power,” Catallo asked. “Well, I think that is sometimes a relatively understandable position. But I also think it’s a pretty easy target… Our job is not to go in there and tear families apart, our job is to keep kids safe and to keep families together when it’s safe to do so,” said CPS State Manager Colin Parks.

Parks says people are only put on the Central Registry after CPS workers substantiate the abuse allegations. He also says it was actually DHS that initiated many of the reforms.

“Folks should not be on there for life, unless they’re really, really a long-term danger to children,” said Parks.

While the new law makes it mandatory that DHS send you a registered or certified letter telling you that you’re on the registry, there’s one thing some legal experts don’t like about the changes: you will only have six months to ask for your name to be removed before you lose that right.

“They may have to sign for a letter now, but do you think that’s enough for people to really understand the severity of what this means,” asked Catallo.

“We’ve worked on that letter a couple of times, and we can continue to work on it, if you’re concerned. If the question raised is the ease of understanding that document, certainly we as a department could take some responsibility and look at modifying that in making it easier to read and easier to understand,” said Parks.

As for Anita Belle, she demanded a hearing to get her name of the Central Registry, but before they ever got in front of a judge, state CPS workers realized they didn’t have enough evidence. So they had to remove her name.

DHS officials say the new 10 year limit can be applied retroactively to many of the people on the registry. If you have been on the Registry for more than a decade, and if you were not put on there for an egregious offense (criminal sexual conduct, battery, life threatening injuries, or abandonment, or exposed a child to methamphetamine production), you should contact the local DHS/CPS office that put you on the registry and request, in writing, and expunction.

DHS officials hope to be able to automate the Registry soon, so it will automatically expunge people who have been listed for more than 10 years.

Here’s what you can do if you think you may be on the Central Registry:

If you want to dispute your placement on the Registry, tell your local CPS/DHS office. You have to tell them in writing (accompanied by a copy of your ID) that you want your name to be taken off the list. Legal experts say if CPS denies your request, you can ask for a Pre-Hearing Conference, as well as a hearing in front of an Administrative Law Judge.

If the Administrative Law Judge decides not to expunge your name from the Central Registry, you can appeal that decision in Circuit Court.

All of these procedures are completely separate from any family court case or criminal court case that you may be facing related to abuse or neglect allegations. Even if you get your children back or are found to be “not guilty” by a judge or jury in a separate court, you may still have been placed on the Registry internally by CPS.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cps; michigan; secretlist

1 posted on 03/22/2014 9:25:32 AM PDT by Altariel
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To: Altariel

I asked a state child abuse investigator in Florida how many false claims they got and without hesitation she said, “At least 50%. They’re due to bad drug deals or feuding neighbors or angry ex-wives or husbands.”

I question the utility and accuracy of any government maintained list. Several years ago I checked the sexual predator map for my county. There were hundreds on it. I read a few and in some cases the “crime” occurred 30 years ago when he was 17 and she was 16. I realized when everybody was finally on the list it was the same as nobody being on the list.


2 posted on 03/22/2014 9:36:07 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

I fully expect we have some Michigan Freepers on this list without their knowledge.


3 posted on 03/22/2014 9:43:27 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

Here in Lenawee County Mi. try being a white male, Disabled Veteran, you are guilty even before they even start grinding you down!


4 posted on 03/22/2014 9:47:21 AM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25 Pacem Bello Pastoribus Canes [shepard of peace,dogs of war])
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
Its unlikely that I'm on this list (no kids) but I'm sure I'm on somebody's list.

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Michigan legislative action thread
5 posted on 03/22/2014 9:53:13 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for pinging this.


6 posted on 03/22/2014 9:57:51 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Gen.Blather

My sister has problems with my formerly out of control niece which resulted in the police being called several times.

Fortunately they ended up with an old school style social worker who knew the game and shut my niece right down. He scared her straight by warning her that he didn’t buy her crap and if she wanted to see how bad things could get he had a foster family in the upper peninsula where she would be up at 4AM every morning to do chores and in bed by 8PM due to exhaustion.


7 posted on 03/22/2014 10:06:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Gen.Blather

I recall hearing that many on the sex-offender list were put there for being caught taking a wizz behind a dumpster - ‘indecent exposure’.


8 posted on 03/22/2014 10:22:37 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I recall hearing that many on the sex-offender list were put there for being caught taking a wizz behind a dumpster - ‘indecent exposure’.


9 posted on 03/22/2014 10:25:21 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: loungitude

“I recall hearing that many on the sex-offender list were put there for being caught taking a wizz behind a dumpster - ‘indecent exposure’.”

I actually knew a kid that happened to. He asked the clerk at a 7/11 if he could use the bathroom and was told no. He went behind their dumpster. When he came out a cop asked him what he was doing. He said taking a whiz. He was arrested and charged with indecent exposure and put on the predator list. That’s the problem with setting up mechanisms in government. After they’re set up there is no quality control over what happens. Some of them, like this list, can ruin your life. That was in 1985, when he was about 16. He’s still on it.


10 posted on 03/22/2014 10:30:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Altariel; cripplecreek

:: It was Anita Belle’s granddaughter who accused her and other relatives of spanking. ::

Aided and abetted by a busy-body public school educator, no doubt.

Taught to “look” for signs of abuse, these nosy-nancies go beyond their training while “investigating” and “interviewing” young children. Youngsters who do not know or understand the subtleties of the “training”.


11 posted on 03/22/2014 10:31:08 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
...abetted by a busy-body public school educator...

Love that word, "busy-body."

I've been reading the British papers since the rise of Internet publishing. The comments sections there about obnoxious behavior by local officials often features the word, "jobsworth", as in, "Some jobsworth gave me a ticket for putting a mayonnaise jar in my rubbish bin instead of into recycling." LOL

12 posted on 03/22/2014 11:48:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Altariel
"“Out of all of those cases, the expectation that somebody would be able to review those decisions would be a very time consuming task,” Parks said."

Poor baby. The nerve of those people, demanding due process of law.

13 posted on 03/22/2014 11:52:02 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

So, one must apply and appear before an Administrative Law Judge just to find out if one is on the registry? Obviously the same principles apply to this list as the ones governing NICS registry for firearms purchases. In practical terms, you can’t discover your status on that list either.


14 posted on 03/22/2014 12:07:45 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (H.L. Mencken: "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.")
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

In minnesota any woman can put any male on this list with a few words....they dont have to be true ..at all.

I know of many examples.

oh well


15 posted on 03/22/2014 12:25:29 PM PDT by Therapsid
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To: Therapsid
In minnesota any woman can put any male on this list with a few words....they dont have to be true ..at all. I know of many examples.

And what are those examples, their male friends and family, or men in general doing about it?

16 posted on 03/23/2014 5:07:04 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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