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'Mystery aircraft' over Texas draws speculation of real spy plane
chron.com ^ | March 28, 2014 | Carol Christian |

Posted on 03/29/2014 4:03:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin

first time.

Aviation Week & Space Technology journalist Bill Sweetman has posted photos taken March 10 by two veteran sky watchers, Steve Douglass and Dean Muskett.

In his blog post of March 28, Sweetman writes that he and two Aviation Week editors agree that the photos depict "something real." In other words, these pictures aren't easily explained away by reports of known military flights or the work of someone who got carried away with Photoshop.

So what can aviation experts say about the object in the photos?

"The photos tell us more about what the mysterious stranger isn't than what it is," Sweetman writes.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: aerospace; aircraft; aurora; aviationweek; billsweetman; deanmuskett; drone; mystery; sr72; stevedouglass; texas
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1 posted on 03/29/2014 4:03:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

B-2?


2 posted on 03/29/2014 4:04:13 PM PDT by stboz
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To: BenLurkin

Lost 777???


3 posted on 03/29/2014 4:05:23 PM PDT by US_MilitaryRules (Tastes like Heaven, Burns like Hell! Mmmmmm. What is it?)
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To: stboz

Too triangular.


4 posted on 03/29/2014 4:05:51 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: BenLurkin

Loose Lips Sink Ships.


5 posted on 03/29/2014 4:09:18 PM PDT by golux
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To: stboz

Wingspan is too short for a B2.


6 posted on 03/29/2014 4:10:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: US_MilitaryRules

7 posted on 03/29/2014 4:10:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Probably a aurora.
8 posted on 03/29/2014 4:10:59 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FreedomPoster

http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/files/2013/08/mf-130103-2814287094487938560.png


9 posted on 03/29/2014 4:11:42 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: driftdiver

Doesn’t a delta wing limit top speed for an aircraft?


10 posted on 03/29/2014 4:11:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

UAV, probably RQ170 out of Ft. Worth


11 posted on 03/29/2014 4:12:02 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: BenLurkin

Dunno if any 4th or 5th gen fighters leave trails like that, certainly not an F117 or a B2. Some kind of drone or something experimental. Looks like the photo was taken during daylight hours, don’t think one would go too obvious with a spy plane.


12 posted on 03/29/2014 4:12:57 PM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: FreedomPoster

Maybe it’s the long rumored Blackbird replacement..the Aurora.


13 posted on 03/29/2014 4:14:31 PM PDT by stboz
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To: BenLurkin

Shuriken ala 2014 with jet propulsion ....


14 posted on 03/29/2014 4:15:19 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: BenLurkin
Perhaps Lockheed's SR-72 spy plane?
15 posted on 03/29/2014 4:16:12 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: BenLurkin
Delta


16 posted on 03/29/2014 4:16:48 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: BenLurkin

I’m not an engineer but I don’t think so. Consider the shuttle, B1 bomber, F111, and a host of other high speed planes which use a delta or swept wing configuration.


17 posted on 03/29/2014 4:17:25 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BenLurkin

New Eric Holder/DOJ gun running program.


18 posted on 03/29/2014 4:17:27 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Vendome

Figures its Texas, then. You can’t even buy throwing stars in California.

Apparently the legislature is afraid someone will use them to rob a 7-11.


19 posted on 03/29/2014 4:18:04 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: jsanders2001

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0Vs-iiNcLT_tHhC4bWRmOeqR6kGuC1hSdJO5w121RNe1AAoFhyw


20 posted on 03/29/2014 4:19:30 PM PDT by MrEdd (vHeck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Antihero101607

Advanced aircraft leave contrails, as well. Contrail formation is based upon atmospherics. For a military operation one would get a contrail prediction from weather forecasters for the particular conditions of the day and then avoid those altitudes. You also confirm the contrail altitudes if you can.


21 posted on 03/29/2014 4:20:24 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: golux

Whatever plane it is the Russians and Chinese almost certainly have people working on it and probably build half of it.


22 posted on 03/29/2014 4:20:39 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: USNBandit

Developmental spy planes dont generally fly during the day.


23 posted on 03/29/2014 4:21:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Antihero101607
Dunno if any 4th or 5th gen fighters leave trails like that,

Ah, but the modern brother of the ancient V-1 'Buzz Bomb' jet just might! A PDE (pulse detonation engine) fills the combustion chamber with fuel and oxidizer and then uses a detonation pressure wave to ignite it in a pulse of power. It supposedly can be used from subsonic to mach 5+ and is rumored to power the ?Aurora?

24 posted on 03/29/2014 4:23:23 PM PDT by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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25 posted on 03/29/2014 4:24:15 PM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: stboz

Weather balloon


26 posted on 03/29/2014 4:24:44 PM PDT by American Dream 246 (Open your eyes. Freedom is not a one day fight. Enemies of Freedom are legion.)
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To: SES1066
Supposedly the cause of contrails like this -
27 posted on 03/29/2014 4:25:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BenLurkin

The shape reminds me of the Boeing Phantom Ray. http://www.boeing.com/Features/2011/05/bds_phantom_ray_first_flight_05_04_11.html


28 posted on 03/29/2014 4:27:13 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Vaquero

I saw one of those fly back when I was in the air force. incredible


29 posted on 03/29/2014 4:27:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: FreedomPoster

Looks like that new Navy drone.


30 posted on 03/29/2014 4:28:36 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: BenLurkin

Looks like an arrow head


31 posted on 03/29/2014 4:28:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: BenLurkin
 photo DSCN0028_zps49bdae86.jpgMaybe a month ago, a military helicopter flew over. I like to take photos of them but by the time I had grabbed the camera and got out to the porch it was too far away. I took a single shot anyway but the image was so tiny, I cropped it by a large amount just to see it. That is when I noticed a flying saucer in the far distance. Well it could be a flying saucer.
32 posted on 03/29/2014 4:30:13 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: BenLurkin

Meet the TR-3A black manta?


33 posted on 03/29/2014 4:39:56 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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34 posted on 03/29/2014 4:40:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: yarddog

Or it could be a bug close to the camera and too close to be in focus.


35 posted on 03/29/2014 4:40:34 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Stupidity is not a crime, so you're free to go.)
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To: MrEdd

LOL


36 posted on 03/29/2014 4:42:10 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: BenLurkin
processed to increase size contrast and clarity


37 posted on 03/29/2014 4:45:16 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: driftdiver

I think I saw this aurora aircraft flying over Chamberlain Lake in northern Maine. Creepy thing if I saw what you showed in picture. The guide I was with had seen it several times.

Some guy posted Loose lips sink ships!

Right Turns, tight lines
Caddis the ancient one


38 posted on 03/29/2014 4:45:23 PM PDT by palmerizedCaddis (Communism still sucks regardless of BHO and the likes of Ms Clintoon)
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To: Regulator
Considering that I'm right off one end of the run-way.... No.

/johnny

39 posted on 03/29/2014 4:46:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: driftdiver
Chinese almost certainly have people working on it and probably build half of it.

Well they did until the 370 went down with the 21 Chinese spies who were heading to China with their laptops filled with spec on this aircraft..

Fortunatly they were able to land the aircraft in Garcia whatever and convince those spies to not deflect. or is it defect. LOL

40 posted on 03/29/2014 4:48:06 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: BenLurkin

Is the testing phase of the government anal probe drone. Why should aliens have all the fun?


41 posted on 03/29/2014 4:48:11 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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42 posted on 03/29/2014 4:48:25 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Obama: The first "White Black" President.)
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To: palmerizedCaddis

Theres a ton of stuff about it on the internet. I remember being 19 yrs old in the air force working at SAC HQ and seeing the SR71 flight manuals on the shelf before it was public knowledge that it existed. I remember thinking I can be in here alone but can’t go out and buy a beer.


43 posted on 03/29/2014 4:50:19 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

What is it with Aliens and those anal probes?

IMO thats proof that aliens don’t exist. Its really liberals flying those craft.


44 posted on 03/29/2014 4:51:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: BenLurkin

Weather Balloon... Nothing to see hear, move along...


46 posted on 03/29/2014 4:55:37 PM PDT by VT GeoScaper
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To: driftdiver

Best explanation I can find,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhru5nLpGE


48 posted on 03/29/2014 5:01:10 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: BenLurkin

Flying Dorito? That one was known to be in development and was cancelled due to overruns and technical delays. There was a lawsuit that got settled, I think last year. There was a topic around here about it at the time I believe.

The Aurora is probably still in development; the spec must be something that can exceed the capability of the very successful (thank you Kelly Johnson) SR-71 Blackbird, which was capable of sustained flight above Mach 3, and flew very long missions over hostile territory, landing and taking off from the same few places, and refueled mid-air as much as necessary.

It’s been speculated that the Aurora and the Flying Dorito were confused for each other, and that the Aurora testing has been done at very high altitude and mostly over the mostly empty federal lands and other sparsely population areas of the SW.

Ben Rich, colleague and successor of Kelly Johnson at Lockheed’s Skunk Works, once cryptically remarked that a “beads on a rope” contrail report he was asked about would suggest a cryofueled engine. The Aurora used to be believed to use liquid methane fuel, and the “beads” were from the pulse jet propulsion needed to make the methane burn right.

Rich is also known to have worked on some very high speed pulse jet drones used in the 1960s to spy on the Chinese interior. The program was cancelled, but in the 1990s the unused inventory was still around and brought back out, apparently for test bed work (rumor).

Nice series of links BenLurkin!

http://www.dreamlandresort.com/forum/messages/17185.html

http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/100years/stories/rich.html

https://www.google.com/search?q=Donuts+on+a+rope+contrail&tbm=isch


49 posted on 03/29/2014 5:03:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_wing


50 posted on 03/29/2014 5:07:41 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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